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The Chad & Cheese Podcast
Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.
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Jul 10, 2026
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Niches Get Stitches 16.08.2019 44:26
Think Google’s going to have an easy time taking over the world of employment? “Well, think again,” says Europe, as 23 job sites file a lawsuit against the search engine giant. What else, LinkedIn is in the news, and niche job boards may be making a comeback, assuming they can turn back the marketplace assault on all-things-employment … even healthcare. Enjoy and give our sponsors Sovren, JobAdx a...
The Dark Side of A.I. 15.08.2019 34:02
Artificial intelligence is running amok! Someone has to police this out-of-control state of technology. Enter Miranda Bogen, a Senior Policy Analyst who focuses on the social and policy implications of machine learning and artificial intelligence, and the effect of technology platforms on civil and human rights. Plus, she really classes up the joint. Enjoy this Talroo exclusive.
Google for Jobs Antitrust or Bust? 13.08.2019 5:09
It’s The Shred – a mini-Chad and Cheese bite of Breaking News — This is Chad Sowash The Shred is brought to you by HappyRecruiter.com, check out their chatbot Dora. Dora is the recruiter’s personal robot assistant that will help them hire more candidates, faster and that’s how your company becomes more cost-efficient. Check Dora out at HappyRecruiter.com On to the NEWS.. Google for Jobs! The EU Cr...
Fairygodboss Co-Founder Romy Newman 13.08.2019 32:13
Think Glassdoor has a monopoly on employee reviews? Think again. Fairygodboss is one of the hottest startups hoping to help women breakthrough the glass ceiling and inspire companies to be more transparent. In this podcast, the boys explore the current state of the business with co-founder Romy Newman, as well as reveal how employers can make themselves a more diverse and inclusive place. Enjoy th...
No More 09.08.2019 2:31
Joel: Hey guys, we’re not going to do a show this week. In light of the recent mass shootings and El Paso, and Dayton. Chad and I thought it would be better time served for the audience as well as ourselves, that we think about the world we live in, how we can make it better, how we can change it. This isn’t a political message but obviously, voting is sort of at the core of our country and how th...
Chad & Cheese Mini-Documentary 08.08.2019 14:11
Audio Only. The boys recently invaded the UK’s top recruiting conference, RecFest. Here’s what happened. Enjoy and special thanks to Talent Nexus for shooting the movie. For the full video go to their YouTube channel.
Talkin’ Gen Z Fuckers 07.08.2019 2:25
Audio Only. More pearls from the Talent Nexus interview. For the full video go to their YouTube channel.
SHOTS FIRED w/ Ryan Gill 06.08.2019 34:49
No one doubts the growth of the gig economy. By 2020, over 40 million Americans are predicted to be part of this reality. As such, platforms whose goal it is to support freelancers and solopreneurs are hotter than ever. However, not all platforms are created equal. The boys sat down with Communo CEO and co-founder Ryan Gill to dig into this smokin’ hot trend. Take a glimpse into the future on this...
Recruitics, KRT Marketing: “Hold my beer.” 02.08.2019 38:49
The hills are alive with the sound of acquisitions! The latest – Recruitics acquiring KRT Marketing – is the fourth similar deal in just a month. The boys cover the news, as well as discussing how much is sucks to be Slack right now, pane view job search, Amazon drones and Monster’s continued cluelessness. Enjoy and show our sponsors some respect: Sovren, JobAdx and Canvas.
New Celebrity Outro 01.08.2019 1:42
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Gerry Tales V (Endgame) 01.08.2019 16:53
Gerry Tales with industry icon Gerry Crispin was off-the-chain, and this is Part V, the last of our interview on all-things-recruiting. Enjoy, get smarter and show exclusive sponsor Nexxt some love.
Recruitics Buys KRT 31.07.2019 3:37
Welcome to THE SHRED a quick bite of Chad & Cheese breaking news – this is Chad Sowash This SHRED provided by our friends at HappyRecruiter.com. Why Happy Recruiter, because you don’t want a pissed off Recruiter… Duh… Visit HappyRecruiter.com and check out Dora, your recruitment robot. She helps you save time and recruit more candidates – HappyRecruiter.com. HOLY MOTHER OF GOD we have ANOTHER ACQU...
When College Breaks US Economy 29.07.2019 25:54
$1.5 trillion in student debt is breaking students backs, but it could also break the U.S. economy. Steven and Faith Rothberg who join Chad and Julie for a look at how College affects the workforce and our economy. Is college too big of a business to fail? Are all colleges treated the same? Why aren’t more companies driving the talent conversation through investment? All this and more on When Coll...
Will Indeed Drink Ad Agency Milkshake? 26.07.2019 44:31
As the dog days of summer drag on, industry news remains hot, hot, HOT! This week, the boys discuss Indeed’s latest strategy to stick-it to recruitment ad agencies, as well as break down the latest buying spree of programmatic ad solutions and chat about Google’s latest strike against the likes of HackerRank and Github. Enjoy and give sponsors JobAdx, Sovren and Canvas lots of affection.
Gerry Tales IV (Gerrymandering) 25.07.2019 19:09
Gerry Tales with industry icon Gerry Crispin was off-the-chain, and this is Part IV of our interview on all-things-recruiting. Enjoy, get smarter and show exclusive sponsor Nexxt some love.
Recruiter Marketplace: Scout w/ CEO Ken Lazarus 23.07.2019 35:14
One of the biggest stories from 2018 was recruiting software solution Scout getting $100 million in investment. The company is quietly becoming a force, so the boys decided to sit down with CEO Ken Lazarus to find out what’s going on. Enjoy this Uncommon exclusive.
What Can Two White Dudes Do About Diversity? 23.07.2019 2:44
Part of our interview with Torin Ellis. Full video interview coming soon. Audio Only. For the full video go to the YouTube channel.
‘Job Board Summer Camp’ Sucks 19.07.2019 44:34
It’s been a week since tearin’ shit up in London, and the boys are psyched to get back to the weekly round-up show. And the hits just keep on rollin’. This week, programmatic remains hot, Amazon says ‘there’s nothing to see here’ in light of strike / no strike news, and summer camps in London and Barcelona have taken a turn for the worst. Sovren, Canvas and JobAdx deserve you undivided attention.
Firing Squad: StaffUpApp 18.07.2019 32:34
Do staffing firms need a native app for iPhones and Android devices? This startup certainly thinks so, but do the boys agree? Let’s just say it’s a house divided. Ready. Aim. Listen. And enjoy this Talroo exclusive.
The Chad & Cheese Recfest 2019 ‘Hype Video’ 17.07.2019 1:36
Before going on stage at Recfest 2019, this happened. ‘Murica! Special thanks to Talent Nexus for creating.
TMP Acquires Perengo 16.07.2019 3:43
It’s The Shred – a mini-Chad and Cheese bite of Breaking News — This is Chad Sowash On to the NEWS for July 16st 2019.. THE ARMS RACE IS RED HOT We were talking about texting and chatbots – Now it’s a word most TA professionals can’t even spell… Programmatic… That’s right StepStone starts their chess moves by taking AppCast — hands down the recruitment industries programmatic leader — App cast off...
Indeed.com Strikes Back 16.07.2019 46:41
When Stepstone acquired Appcast, the boys wondered why Indeed failed to snatch-up programmatic’s most well-known and successful companies. Maybe Indeed wasn’t even interested. Turns out, they were, as proven by the recent announcement that they acquired second-rate competitor, ClickIQ. In this episode, the guys bring in some special guests to get to the bottom of things, as well as cover a broad r...
Gerry Tales III (Beyond Thunderdome) 09.07.2019 21:38
Gerry Tales with industry icon Gerry Crispin was off-the-chain, and this is Part III of our interview all-things-recruiting. Enjoy, get smarter and show exclusive sponsor Nexxt some love.
We Love the Smell of Acquisitions in the Morning 08.07.2019 37:16
The week of July 4th is usually pretty slow, but there were plenty of fireworks this year. Aside from a big acquisition, Facebook, Walmart and Hallmark are in the news, as well as a segment on rainbow-colored flags and the companies that say they support them, but in reality, not-so-much. Try not to choke on all the hot dogs, PBR and freedom. And show our sponsors some Yankee Doodle appreciation....
Recfest 2019: British / U.S. Relations are Headed for a New Low 03.07.2019 15:55
With Recfest 2019 a little over a week away in London, what better way for Chad & Cheese to pregame than to get the show’s masterminds, Jamie Leonard and Joe Slavin? The boys breakdown the show and give listeners a sneak-peek into the havoc that is about to invade English shores.
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