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The Chad & Cheese Podcast
Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.
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Jul 10, 2026
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HR Manifesto 18.04.2022 28:20
What happens when you get HR's most dangerous podcast together with the industry's most popular TikTok celebrity? Yup, insanity! The boys bring on Leigh Henderson, A.K.A., HR Manifesto, to reveal the secrets of TikTok success for employers. We also dig-in to hear Leigh's story of how she went from Fortune 100 executive to social media darling. We'd write more, but you people apparently have no att...
Talent.com Says No Free Rides! 15.04.2022 41:45
Talent.com Says Nobody Rides for Free There's always a bigger fish. And with the recent acquisition of GoodHire, Checkr - valued at $4.6 billion - shows that it's got an appetite worthy of great white shark status. (Sterling, you have been warned.) And speaking of warnings, freeloaders on Talent.com should know there are no more free lunches on the Montreal-based job board. Canadians aren't so ge...
Checkr Completes Its Largest Acquisition Ever 13.04.2022 4:00
The Shred is a bite-sized bit of recruitment news to help make sure you’re in-the-know, even if you’re on-the-go. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
Firing Squad: RecruitCRM's Sean Mallapurkar 13.04.2022 32:08
Who doesn't love a good David vs. Goliath story? That's why we invited Recruit CRM to come onto Firing Squad. This cocky startup run by Sean Mallapurkar thinks it can actually put a dent in Bullhorn's armor and grab a big piece of the staffing CRM business worldwide. Is there bark bigger than their bite, or should Bullhorn and the like be shaking in their boots? Gotta listen to find out.
DEI Easy Button w/ Barb Hyman 11.04.2022 29:42
Diversity, equity and inclusion are still on the tip of many employers' tongues. However, things like a global pandemic and a world on the edge of World War III have stolen a lot of the spotlight in recent years. So, do employers still care as much as they did just two years ago? It's something to consider, and that's why Chad & Cheese have brought back Barb Hyman, founder and CEO of Predictive Hi...
BRAVO Indeed... What? 08.04.2022 45:22
Did Chad and Indeed Just Become Best Friends? Think unicorn production is slowing down? Think again, because we not only have a new unicorn on this week's show, we have a triple-unicorn, baby! Welcome to the club, IntelyCare, and Remote! And speaking of remote, it's a topic that makes its way into the show big-time this week, as does idiot execs at Taco Bell, Google "frog boiling," and slider-flip...
Remote Achieves Triple-Unicorn Status 🦄 🦄 🦄 07.04.2022 4:19
The Shred is a bite-sized bit of recruitment news to help make sure you’re in-the-know, even if you’re on-the-go. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
Axel Springer's New Fluffer 06.04.2022 38:41
Axel Springer Needs a Fluffer Europe continues to be a hotbed of workforce news. That's why the boys brought on AIM Group's managing editor Pavel Marceux on the podcast. Pavel wrote a story entitle, "Metaverse hiring: A passing tech fad or future game changer?," so Boner Alert for Cheesman! Additionally, the boys discuss the state of Russian recruitment, Axel Springer taking a bigger stake of No F...
Kill The Resume? 04.04.2022 30:52
Resumes are dead. Sourcing is pointless. Applicant tracking systems have failed us. At least that's the opinion of Maya Huber, co-founder, and CEO of Skillset, an Israeli-based job skills test platform. Is she right? Well, Chad & Cheese have some questions ... let's leave it at that. Have a listen and make up your own mind.
iCIMS + Candidate.ID Activate! 01.04.2022 46:04
Marketers make great bedfellows. Who knew? Candidate. ID and iCIMS, that's who. The boys dig into the hottest acquisition news of the week, plus review HackerRank's latest funding round. What else? Layoffs at a unicorn, a "GPS for your Career" and a job-related URL that commanded a six-figure price-tag. Say what? Lastly, porn star Bree Olson breaks down The Great Resignation like only a porn star...
Gamify the Quit 30.03.2022 32:26
Quit rates have reached record levels and employees are making their voices heard. But how can a company change the narrative and retain employees through empowering their people? The lived experience of an employee working for Trianual is how founder and CEO Chris Ronzio defines culture and he's ready to bet $5,000 cash money that any aligned candidate will buy into his company and culture. Wa...
iCIMS Acquires... 29.03.2022 4:19
iCIMS, the talent cloud company, today announced the acquisition of... LISTEN Big thanks Recruitology for supporting The Shred. Recruitology brings machine learning and AI to virtual job fairs, remember when virtual job fairs were lame? Not anymore, check out how you can leverage candidate matching and programmatic job distribution with a virtual job fair at recruitology.com/employers.
Firing Squad: Qualifi's Darrian Mikell 27.03.2022 32:21
Automation in the interview space is smokin' hot, and Indianapolis-based Qualifi is hoping the profit off the trend by providing automated phone pre-screening for healthcare pros, truckers, and more ... with the actual deep-dive interview done by humans. It's either a home run or a total face-plant, offering too little, too late in an ever-automating world. (What do you mean no video!?!?!) You be...
Catch the Funding Express! 25.03.2022 45:10
This week's show is a wild ride. Sorta like a winding small intestine, it was all over the place and ended explosively. We go from European startups HeyJobs and Omnipresent kicking ass and taking names to a ruckus game of buy-or-sell featuring Rolebot, Bambee (our favorite stripper name, by the way), Learn In, and Workramp. Turns out, Portugal is making Chad a big softie when it comes to "selling"...
Jason Calacanis Just Invested In This Recruiting Startup 23.03.2022 4:08
The Shred is a bite-sized bit of recruitment news to help make sure you’re in-the-know, even if you’re on-the-go. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
Stepstone says Au Revoir 23.03.2022 44:01
Acquisition, investment, and head-scratching aren't stopping when it comes to workforce news and commentary in Europe. That's what Lieven and Chad & Cheese bring Kelly's Tim Pröhm, VP, KellyX Digital Innovation Lab, to the podcast for insight into 1) Cornerstone OnDemand's latest deal, 2) Stepstone pulling out of France and 3) Circular's latest investment round (buy-or-sell alert!). Oh yeah, Elon...
Ignoring Blind Candidates 21.03.2022 22:27
By ignoring web accessibility, you're closing the door on millions of would-be applicants to your job openings. Companies both big and small drop the ball. That's why we invited Matt Stubbs, a leader in web accessibility, on the podcast to both educate and scare the hell out of listeners to get their accessibility house in order. Looking at you, JP Morgan, and around 90% of the rest of you.
CareerBuilder, King of Innovation 18.03.2022 44:02
We're finally recording a show on St. Patrick's Day, which means Cheese is still in bed while you listen to this the day after. Anyway, the boys discuss Talent.com's recent funding round (and whether or not they're a unicorn), CareerBuilder's latest attempt at innovation, going back-to-work gone wrong at a major bank, the latest creative work platform that's caught the attention of NBA superstar K...
Cha-Ching! Talent.com Raises $120M to Take On Indeed.com, ZipRecruiter 16.03.2022 3:39
The Shred is a bite-sized bit of recruitment news to help make sure you’re in-the-know, even if you’re on-the-go. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
Brand Exit 16.03.2022 31:40
Have the days of companies solely serving shareholders flown the co-cos nest? Society expects companies to change. Is this "woke capitalism" or a major brand awakening? Julie Calli joins Chad and Cheese to talk brand impact during atrocities and war.
Ghosting Busters w/ Jeff Shapiro 14.03.2022 35:07
Tired of hearing about "ghosting" yet? Too bad! It's a serious issue, and employers who engage in the practice are really screwing things up in a wide variety of ways for the company. That's why we brought Jeff Shapiro, Sr. Director of Talent Acquisition at Radnet, to talk about his take on this growing epidemic. Listen up, Casper, there are no friendly ghosts.
Pulling Out of Mother Russia 11.03.2022 46:44
Pulling out is a common theme this week, so let's keep the ball rolling. Businesses in our space - notably Indeed, Upwork and Fiverr - keep abandoning Mother Russia in favor of standing up for Ukraine. Invasion aside, money keeps flowing into startups. This week, we cover new funding for Torc, Donde, Findem, Reejig and Instant Teams. No unicorns, and maybe that's a good thing. The show ends with t...
Wait! I.T. Employment Ticked DOWN in Feb.? 10.03.2022 3:34
The Shred is a bite-sized bit of recruitment news to help make sure you’re in-the-know, even if you’re on-the-go. The Shred is brought to you by Recruitology.
The Pull-Out Method 09.03.2022 43:49
We cover a lot of countries in Europe on this episode, which is why we brought Oana Iordachescu, a talent acquisition specialist at Wayfair - who's worked in just about every country while at places like Facebook, Booking.com, and Criteo - on the show. Where to begin our journey? Of course, there's Ukraine and Russia, where a wide variety of corporations are pulling out of Russia in light of the i...
Firing Squad: Intervue.io's Rahul Arora 07.03.2022 32:44
Software promising to screen and test the world's best tech talent tend to fall into two camps: Those who can actually do it and those who are totally full of shit. Enter Intervue.io a startup that provides live tech testing to go with its video interviewing solution. Cofounder Rahul Arora enters the Firing Squad firmly convinced that his company falls in the category of vendors who can actually d...
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