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The Chad & Cheese Podcast
Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.
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Jul 10, 2026
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Episodes
Adapting in an AI Market with Quincy Valencia 30.10.2024 22:01
In this lively episode, Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman sit down with Quincy Valencia, SVP of Innovation at Harri, at the HR Tech conference. Known for her no-nonsense approach, Quincy offers her candid insights on the overhyped AI trend, emphasizing that companies should focus on the outcomes AI can deliver rather than getting lost in technical jargon. She highlights how AI has evolved since ChatGP...
Green Room: The Realist Recruiter 28.10.2024 16:30
Live from the Shaker Recruitment Marketing Green Room at RecFest in Nashville! In the podcast, Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman, dive into the evolving world of recruitment with Joel Lalgee, founder and lead recruiter at The Realist Recruiter. Lalgee, who transitioned from an agency recruiter to building his personal brand online during COVID, shares insights on the recruitment landscape. He emphasiz...
Indeed Infringes (allegedly) 25.10.2024 36:33
In this episode of the Chad and Cheese Podcast, hosts Joel and Chad discuss a variety of topics including Snoop Dogg's decision to turn down a $100 million offer from OnlyFans, the ongoing legal challenges faced by Indeed, and Upwork's launch of a new AI feature named Uma. They also share personal updates, travel plans, and insights into the fantasy football league, while providing shoutouts to in...
Shredded: Randstad, Paradox, Bullhorn, Freelance.com, Upwork, Robert Half, MPAY & More 24.10.2024 8:07
The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s getting acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
Equity Served Hot 23.10.2024 43:35
In this episode of the Chad and Cheese podcast, Chad and Cheese chat with Maria Colacurcio, CEO at Syndio, Alim Dhanji, CHRO, TD SYNNEX, and Ana White, EVP and Chief People Officer at Lumen to discuss the critical issues surrounding workplace equity, the importance of data-driven approaches, and the impact of recent legal changes on DEI initiatives. The conversation highlights the need for transpa...
Immigration Myth Busting w/ Prof. Zeke Hernandez. 21.10.2024 38:51
In this episode, Zeke Hernandez, a professor at the Wharton School, discusses the complexities of immigration in the U.S., addressing both legal and illegal immigration, the economic contributions of immigrants, and the need for reform in immigration policies. The conversation also hits head-on the challenges faced by high-skilled immigrants and the implications of America's outdated immigration s...
ADP Drops Coin 18.10.2024 45:42
In this episode of The Chad & Cheese podcast, hosts Joel and Chad discuss a variety of topics including the current political climate, recent layoffs in the industry, sports updates, and the acquisition of Workforce Software by ADP. They share their thoughts on the implications of these events and provide shout outs to notable figures and companies in the recruitment and technology space. In this...
Shredded: Randstad, Workday, LinkedIn, SmartRecruiters, SEEK, ADP, Flip, Xref, FaceUp & More 17.10.2024 7:47
The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s getting acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
HR Tech Talks: Rebecca Carr 16.10.2024 29:29
When we last spoke to Rebecca Carr, she was the interim CEO at SmartRecuiters, a popular ATS. Fortunately, the "interim" title has been removed and now she's just CEO. Of course, that comes with a whole new set of challenges, and we were more than happy to visit with her at the HR Technology conference to check-in on how it all went down, what's the current state of the business and what the futur...
Green Room: Rachel Morgan 14.10.2024 12:32
Buckle up, folks! This episode of HR’s Most Dangerous Podcast comes straight from the green room at Recfest USA in Nashville, sponsored by Shaker Recruitment Marketing. Chad and Joel sit down with the one and only Rachel Morgan, VP of Client Services at Shaker, to talk about the glamorous world of recruitment marketing—mimosas in hand, of course. Rachel takes us on a wild ride from her days of wre...
Indeed Sues ZipRecruiter 11.10.2024 42:38
In this episode of the Chad and Cheese Podcast, hosts Joel and Chad discuss a variety of topics including the innovative Waymo self-driving cars, the ongoing rise of podcasting as a cultural force, the surprising business success of Spirit Halloween, and the competitive landscape between Indeed and ZipRecruiter. They also provide a fantasy football update and discuss recent layoffs at CareerBuilde...
Shredded: MrBeast, CareerBuilder + Monster, iCIMS, Indeed, ZipRecruiter, Guild, LinkedIn, Amazon & More 10.10.2024 6:45
The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s getting acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
Green Room: Nicole Stephens 09.10.2024 26:52
In this episode of The Chad and Cheese podcast, recorded live from The Shaker Green Room at Recfest USA, Chad and Joel sit down with Nicole Stephens, Recruitment Marketing Manager at Floor & Decor. Nicole who shares her approach to employer branding and recruitment marketing, focusing on making work environments better and more enjoyable. She emphasizes the importance of doing more with less, offe...
Reunion Squad: Willo's Euan Cameron 07.10.2024 35:16
In this episode of the Chad and Cheese podcast, Euan Cameron, CEO at Willo, returns for a Firing Squad reunion. The conversation covers the journey of Willo since their first appearance on the podcast in August 2021, including their fundraising efforts and product evolution. Euan shares that Willo recently raised $2 million in funding, bringing their total funding to over $3 million. He also discu...
ZipRecruiter's Stink Bomb 04.10.2024 48:35
In this episode of the Chad and Cheese podcast, the hosts discuss various themes including the impact of AI on jobs, innovative job-seeking strategies, the future of job boards like ZipRecruiter and Dice, the dock workers' strike and its economic implications, Amazon's workforce challenges, and the declining usage of condoms among young adults. Takeaways AI's impact on jobs is often overstated. In...
Shredded: LinkedIn, ZipRecruiter, Veritone, Artisan, Amazon, Gavin Newsom, Bullhorn, AMS & More 03.10.2024 7:18
The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s getting acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
An Employment Pro's Job Search Journey w/ Allison King 30.09.2024 31:04
Allison King, VP of People Operations at Sound Physicians, shares her experience and insights on job searching and personal branding on LinkedIn. She emphasizes the importance of creating a strong LinkedIn profile and being active on the platform to build a professional network and showcase your skills and interests. Allison also discusses her approach to job applications, including reaching out t...
CEO Shuffle at Appcast, Enboarder | Mercor Scores for Thiel, Dorsey 27.09.2024 31:09
Live from the SmartRecruiters booth at HR Tech in Las Vegas, this one is all beef, no filler. Stickin' it to Eightfold, "black Nazis," Brett Favre and cold beers start the episode off on a strong note, followed by the breaking news. Commentary focused on newly minted CEOs at Appcast and Enboarder, a $30 million round and a $250 million valuation at Silicon Valley darling, backed by Peter Thiel and...
Shredded: Mercor, Randstad US, Appcast, Enboarder, DailyPay, Jump, Amazon, Jet HR & More 26.09.2024 6:09
The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s getting acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
Google, StepStone, and Europe's Shifting Job Market 25.09.2024 37:21
In this episode of the Chad and Cheese Podcast, the boys discuss various topics related to the recruiting industry in Europe and beyond, including recent news about Google and StepStone, shout outs to industry players, and a deep dive into the dynamics of European media and classifieds businesses. They also analyze legal battles involving JobIndex and Google, and engage in a 'Buy or Sell' segment...
Unconscious Inclusion with Stacey Gordon 23.09.2024 32:49
In this conversation, Joel and Chad interview Stacey Gordon, founder and principal consultant at Rework Work, about unconscious inclusion, skills-based hiring, and the politicization of DEI. Stacey emphasizes the importance of actively working towards unconscious inclusion. She discusses the need for dialogue and open conversations to bridge the gap between different perspectives. Stacey also addr...
Indeed Says, 'Let Them Eat Cake' | LinkedIn Gets TikTok'd, 'Verified' 20.09.2024 41:50
In this episode of the Chad and Cheese Podcast, hosts Joel and industry veteran Emi Beredugo discuss various topics including LinkedIn's new features, the impact of layoffs in the recruiting industry, and the importance of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) in the workplace. They also delve into the recent merger of CareerBuilder and Monster, and Indeed's decision to remove free features from...
Shredded: Workday, UpWork, iCIMS, CareerBuilder + Monster, ZipRecruiter, LinkedIn, Every, VidLab7, TeamBridge, Supermaven, 11x.ai & More 19.09.2024 7:48
The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s getting acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
Google Core Update with Alex Chukovski 18.09.2024 26:40
In this snark-filled episode, Chad and Joel bring back SEO guru Alexander Chukovski to dissect Google’s latest core update, which has job boards like Indeed sweating bullets. Google’s now favoring ATS results and niche job sites, leaving generic job boards in the dust. The crew speculates whether Google is intentionally ghosting Indeed, especially after their pricey partnership with OpenAI. As usu...
Startups: UK vs US with Gareth Marlow 16.09.2024 35:08
In this episode, Joel and Chad interview Gareth Marlow, an executive coach and consultant at EQ Systems. They discuss various topics including Gareth's background, the differences between Cambridge and Oxford, their favorite sci-fi movies, and Gareth's work with startups. Gareth explains his role in helping organizations scale and achieve product-market fit. They also touch on the common problem o...
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