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The Chad & Cheese Podcast
Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.
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Jul 10, 2026
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Episodes
Shredded: Paradox, Deel, Dice, LinkedIn, Kforce, Google, Target, Klarna & More 06.02.2025 9:20
The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
Firing Squad: Propulsion AI's Scott Morris 05.02.2025 40:18
In this rollicking episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, where HR tech is served with a side of sass, we dive deep with Scott Morris, the brainiac behind Propulsion AI. Scott, who's apparently decided that regular HR is just too mundane, has set out to jazz up the hiring process by making it all about outcomes, not just ticking off tasks. He's got AI doing the heavy lifting, crafting job descripti...
Embracing Upskilling and Micro-Learning w/ Darnell Hill 03.02.2025 10:50
From the Shaker Green Room at RecFest USA, Darnell Hill, Vice President of Talent Acquisition at AAA Mountain West Group, joins The Chad & Cheese to discuss the company's transformation and his insights into the HR landscape. He shares how AAA is redefining its brand beyond its traditional association with roadside assistance, venturing into areas like AAA Smart Home and auto repair partnerships,...
DeepSeek Dominates and Textio is Toasted 31.01.2025 51:31
In this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, the hosts blend personal anecdotes with industry analysis, starting with humorous shout outs and personal stories. They tackle serious topics like the challenges women face in the workplace, focusing on Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) initiatives, and discuss the implications of recent government layoffs on the workforce. The conversation provid...
Shredded: Accenture, LinkedIn, 15Five, Job&Talent, Textio, Wanderly, Recfindr, SquarePeg & More 30.01.2025 6:11
The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s getting acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
Europe: Talent Wars and Political Impact 29.01.2025 38:41
In this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast Does Europe, the boys dive into the political circus, focusing on how Europeans are snickering at Donald Trump's presidency. They question if the U.S. foreign policy is more like a toddler with too many toys or an actual strategy and ponder whether Europe might finally unite to tackle global shenanigans. They tackle the rise of authoritarianism - becaus...
HR Trends and AI Risks: Keith Sonderling 27.01.2025 58:23
Onstage at Outsolve's HR Gumbo Conference in New Orleans, Keith Sonderling, the former Commissioner of the EEOC, joins Chad & Cheese to discuss major trends in employment discrimination and the evolving role of AI in HR. He notes a significant spike in discrimination charges post-recession, particularly age discrimination, followed by increases in sexual harassment, equal pay, and racial discrimin...
TikTok by MrBeast? 24.01.2025 46:58
"Brace yourselves, because this week, the chaotic trifecta of Chad, JT, and Mo are reporting on the apocalypse—with a generous helping of snark. From MrBeast and Employer.com bidding to turn TikTok into their playground to STEM content creators cashing checks on OnlyFans and Pornhub (science is sexy now?). Plus, Chad dubs this administration the 'Fellatio Era' (yeah, you read that right). Tune in...
Shredded: ADP, Teal, Randstad, Perplexity, Byteboard, Karat, TalentMapper, Holly, Trump & More 24.01.2025 7:56
The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s getting acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
Europe: Sex Workers, AI, and Start-Ups 22.01.2025 59:00
In this hilarious installment of The Chad & Cheese Podcast Does Europe, Lieven joins the boys as they embark on a wild ride through Europe, sharing tales of cultural faux pas and giving shout-outs that'll make you spit out your coffee. Buckle up as they dive into Belgium's bold new laws for sex workers - because who knew bureaucracy could be so sexy? But wait, there's more! They tackle the elephan...
TikTok Shutdown, Big Meta Energy and LinkedIn AI? 17.01.2025 55:47
In the latest episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, J.T. O'Donnell crashes the party, diving headfirst into the chaotic whirlpool that is today's job market and recruitment tech. They start by roasting the good ol' resume, with J.T. proclaiming it's about as useful as a screen door on a submarine in this AI-driven world. Next up, they tackle the plight of Harvard MBA grads, who apparently can't ev...
Shredded: LinkedIn, Dice, The Muse, Yardi, Humi, Hippocratic AI, Maki, Employment Hero & More 16.01.2025 6:47
The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s getting acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
Mastering Recruitment with Gerry Crispin 15.01.2025 16:11
Gerry Crispin crashes into the Chad & Cheese podcast live from the Shaker Green Room at RecFest USA. With a cool 53 years in recruiting under his belt, Gerry takes us through his career, where he picked up a few nuggets of wisdom along the way, all while sticking to the golden rule of fairness—thanks, Johnson & Johnson! After dipping his toes in J&J, Roche, and a fancy boutique executive search fi...
Smarter Hiring and Stronger Retention with Joe Shaker 13.01.2025 13:35
Live from the Shaker Green Room at RecFest USA, Joe Shaker dropped recruitment truth bombs with a side of optimism. Want to know the secret to winning the talent war? Or how MarTech is set to shake up hiring in 2025? Joe’s insights might just save your branding strategy—and your sanity.
2025 Predictions Show 10.01.2025 1:02:24
In this uproarious episode of the Chad and Cheese Podcast, our dynamic duo, Joel and Chad, dive into their holiday escapades—think less about eggnog and more about egg on their faces from last year's predictions. They gleefully dissect their 2024 forecasts, celebrating the rare victories and lamenting the epic fails with the finesse of a stand-up comedian bombing on stage. They then throw the mic...
Shredded: Shaker Recruitment Marketing, LinkedIn, ZipRecruiter, Adecco, Salesforce, Paychex, McDonald's, Jobindex & More 09.01.2025 10:14
The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s getting acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
Chris Forman's Wild Appcast Ride 08.01.2025 50:42
In this episode, we chat with Chris Forman, founder of Appcast, about building a recruitment tech powerhouse while avoiding the classic startup trap of “too many ideas, not enough brains.” We cover Appcast’s rise from "rail builder" to Stepstone acquisition (thanks, "Daddy Warbucks" Axel Springer) and the buzzworthy Bayard deal. Was it genius strategy or just IPO window dressing? Chris doesn’t hol...
Trust Issues with AI in Recruiting 06.01.2025 15:37
"Live from the Shaker Green Room at RecFest USA, Jason Pistulka—Assistant VP of Talent Acquisition Operations at HCA Healthcare—graces us with his presence to drop some truth bombs on recruitment. Spoiler alert: he's not here to hand out AI participation trophies. Jason throws shade at the industry’s blind faith in AI as a recruitment savior, arguing that maybe, just maybe, getting your operationa...
2024 It's a Wrap! 03.01.2025 58:21
The Chad & Cheese Podcast 2024 Recap Show In this special year-end recap, Chad and Cheese revisit the biggest moments and most talked-about episodes of 2024. Packed with insights, hot takes, and snarky commentary, this episode delivers a curated journey through the stories that defined the HR tech industry over the past year. Featured Highlights: "ZipRecruiter is Lost" (March 2024) "Workday Sucke...
Top 2024 Topics & Expert Insights 27.12.2024 49:10
Behold! A holiday spectacle so dazzling, so insightful, it’ll practically guarantee you a promotion (results may vary, void where prohibited, don't quit your day job). We've wrangled all our favorite (and some we just tolerated) guests from 2024 to deliver scorching hot takes on the burning dumpster fire that is talent, tech, and recruitment. Think less "fireside chat" and more "dumpster fire chat...
Cringeworthy Mistakes: with Tim Sackett 23.12.2024 10:49
Broadcasting live from the Shaker Green Room at RecFest USA, Tim Sackett—dropped some truth bombs with Joel Cheesman about the cringe-worthy mistakes corporations make in their talent acquisition hustle. Oh, and guess what? Sackett's cooking up another book, creatively titled Talent Fix Volume 2—because one wasn’t enough. Expect fresh content, hot takes, and, presumably, a few digs at HR's favorit...
2024 Naughty and Nice Special 20.12.2024 41:52
Welcome to the Chat and Cheese Podcast's holiday extravaganza, where HR gossip meets holiday cheer — and no one is safe. It’s like your company holiday party, but with more alcohol and fewer awkward dance moves (maybe). Holiday Coal Recipients: The Master of Deception The Corporate Grinch The Kings of "Almost There" Holiday Heroes: The Billion-Dollar Badass The Pop Powerhouse The Viral Appetizer W...
Using Internal Comms to Shape Employer Brands 18.12.2024 11:17
Live from the Shaker Green Room at RecFest USA, Chad & Cheese corner Audra Knight, the employer branding wizard at Foundation Medicine, to spill the tea on how companies can stop being boring and actually build a brand people care about. Audra preaches the gospel of internal communications, because apparently, it’s not enough to just have a logo and a “We’re Hiring!” post on LinkedIn. She dishes o...
Firing Squad Illoominus' Noelle London 16.12.2024 34:49
In this episode of The Chad and Cheese podcast, Noelle London, founder and CEO of Illoominus, discusses her AI-powered people intelligence platform designed to integrate and analyze HR data. She shares insights on the challenges of dirty data, the importance of strategic partnerships, and the competitive landscape in HR technology. The conversation also covers funding strategies, the role of Techs...
Meta, Microsoft, and Google Go Nuclear 13.12.2024 45:08
In this episode of the Chad and Cheese Podcast, hosts Joel and Chad discuss a variety of topics ranging from personal anecdotes about pets and sleep deprivation to the unsettling news about drones in New Jersey. They delve into the implications of workplace stress and corporate responses, highlighting a controversial case of a company firing employees due to stress. The conversation shifts to the...
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