Ashley Hales and Bryce Hales
The Cartographers
Welcome to The Cartographers, a podcast to help Christian leaders map a changing cultural landscape in the 21st century. Join us, Bryce Hales and Ashley Hales, Pastor and PhD, as we explore with our guests how to cultivate fruitful and resilient lives and communities. More at: https://www.willowbrae.org/media
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Jul 7, 2026
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Episodes
84: How do we stay in our lane when it comes to calling or pain? (with Marlena Graves) 16.08.2021 41:04
Ashley talks with Marlena Graves about boundaries, hurt and trauma, calling, and what it might look like to embrace our limits. If you’re looking for some guidelines about when and what to speak out on, this is a great conversation — and one that helps you see the beauty of self-restraint. LINKS Get Marlena’s most recent book, The Way Up is Down : https://amzn.to/3yUPTSo Pre-order Ashley’s book, A...
83: If You're Not Your Own, then What? with Alan Noble 10.08.2021 38:06
Listen in to this conversation with Alan Noble as we talk about the problem with unlimited autonomy today, how we might engage thoughtfully with social media, how *not* to curate a life, and the psychic load on people today. We discuss how limits and belonging to God begin to help us navigate a path forward. LINKS Preorder A Spacious Life : https://amzn.to/3lGNLtD Preorder You Are Not Your Own : h...
82: What does it take to turn an idea into a book? 02.08.2021 36:00
In this episode, kicking off Season 5, Ashley sits down with her literary agent and editor to talk about A Spacious Life . How does an idea go from concept to book? What drew Don Gates and Elissa Schauer to the project? Listen in -- and don't forget to find out their hustle habit and laundry routines! Links Pre-order A Spacious Life at Amazon , IVP , or wherever books are sold. Join the Spacious C...
81: Welcome to a Spacious Life in Season 5 29.07.2021 8:36
There's more than hurry and hustle. Welcome to a spacious life -- where we're learning to see our limits as good. Here's your invitation to know that there's a spacious life waiting for you in the midst of your actual one. This season I'll be sitting down with artists, activists, professors and writers to talk about how our limits are good, what my guests' hustle habits are, and of course, their l...
80: Kendra Adachi On Genius-ing your Laundry and Your Life 19.07.2021 38:24
Kendra Adachi and Ashley Hales talk about laundry as an act of love, vulnerability and messiness, and how we connect the dots between the meaning behind chores and the task itself. Listen in to get some genius tips on finding out what matters most to you. Links Kendra's book: The Lazy Genius Way Follow Kendra on Instagram Kendra's podcast: The Lazy Genius Check out last week's episode, The Laundry...
79: The Laundry Episode 12.07.2021 29:54
What does our laundry have to do with the big ideas of life? At the Finding Holy podcast, I ask all my guests about their laundry routines. In this episode, hear why I ask that question, some memorable routines, and some tips for you as you connect the dots between the things that matter and your everyday, holy life. LINKS The Quotidian Mysteries by Kathleen Norris: https://amzn.to/3AStaYD Follow...
78: The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill: Power + the Church 05.07.2021 32:04
Mike Cosper joins us on the Finding Holy Podcast to talk about: church hurt, his recent CT podcast, The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill, and power and hope for the church. Listen in. Listen to The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill on Apple or wherever you listen to podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-rise-and-fall-of-mars-hill/id1569401963 Follow Mike on Twitter : https://twitter.com/MikeCospe...
77: Alan Noble on our Digital Lives 28.06.2021 34:20
In this best of series, Alan Noble joins Ashley Hales to talk about our digital lives. You can preorder his next book, Y ou Are Not Your Own , here . His first book is Disruptive Witness and you can follow him on Twitter . Subscribe to the Finding Holy Podcast and leave a review! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
76: Laura Fabrycky on our Civic Witness 23.06.2021 33:44
This is such an important conversation about the nature of courage, how we might maintain civic identities, and love our neighbors -- and learn more about the witness of Dietrich Bonhoeffer. You can pick up a copy of Keys to Bonhoeffer's Haus here . Follow Laura on Instagram and Twitter . Don't forget to subscribe to the Finding Holy Podcast and leave a review ! Learn more about your ad choices. V...
75: Karla Reed on Generosity + Creativity 18.06.2021 32:40
Enjoy this "best of" episode with Karla Reed as we talk generosity, creativity, and spending. Though this came out at the beginning of the pandemic, it's a helpful way to think about how we spend and what we do affects what we love. Listen in! Follow Karla on Instagram . Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
74: A.J. Swoboda on Doubt 02.06.2021 39:10
How do we reckon with our own doubt? Can we do so in the context of the church? Listen in to this wide-ranging conversation with A.J. Swoboda to find a pathway and roadmap through — to see doubt not as an absence of faith but a sister to it. LINKS A.J’s newest book, After Doubt A.J.’s website Follow A.J. on Twitter Another great book of his, Subversive Sabbath ONE SMALL STEP Spend 10 minutes is si...
73: Pandemic Relationships: Rhonda Spencer-Hwang on Parenting 18.05.2021 36:58
The global Covid-19 pandemic has taught us that resilience is an important muscle we need to flex (and to learn how to do so better). Listen in to this conversation with Rhonda Spencer-Hwang about what you can do for yourself and your family to practice new habits. LINKS Pre-order Rhonda’s book: Raising Resilient Kids Rhonda’s website: https://drrhondaspencer.com/ ONE SMALL STEP Pre-order Rhonda’s...
72: Pandemic Relationships: Dorothy Greco on Marriage 11.05.2021 34:38
This is a great conversation on how the pandemic has changed marriages and what it might look like to begin to imagine more for our marriages. Listen in to author, speaker, and photographer Dorothy Greco as she shares practical and soulful ways to connect. LINKS Marriage in the Middle : https://amzn.to/33Bn3bQ Dorothy’s first book: Making Marriage Beautiful Dorothy’s website : https://www.dorothyg...
71: Pandemic Relationships: Todd Wilson on The Enneagram Goes to Church 05.05.2021 31:56
This is a great conversation on how social media and the pandemic has changed relationships in the church. Listen in to Todd Wilson help listeners learn about the Enneagram, the wisdom of dark emotions, and being self-aware for the sake of others. LINKS Todd’s book : https://amzn.to/3xLWbnd Todd’s website : https://www.toddawilson.com/ Follow Todd on Twitter Check out The Road Back to You as an En...
70: Jen Pollock Michel on Habits of Faith 27.04.2021 36:50
This is a great conversation on how faith might grow, not because we have it mentally sorted or we’re traveling from emotional high to emotional high, but because we practice particular habits. Jen Pollock Michel joins me to talk about habit, corporate practices of faith, and how we might explore the bible with others (for those who believe and those who don’t — including ourselves at times). LINK...
69: Katelyn Beaty on A Woman's Place 20.04.2021 32:06
This is a great conversation on how the pandemic has changed life for women, why institutions matter, the nature of power, and the culture of social influence in Christian spaces. LINKS Katelyn’s first book, A Woman’s Place Katelyn’s podcast, Saved by the City Katelyn’s website : http://www.katelynbeaty.com/ Follow Katelyn on Twitter ONE SMALL STEP Consider taking a social media fast — try a week,...
68: John Starke on Praying in a Pandemic 14.04.2021 33:02
In this conversation, Ashley sits down with pastor and author John Starke to talk about praying in a pandemic. John Starke is lead pastor at Apostles Church Uptown in New York City. He is the coeditor (with Bruce Ware) of One God in Three Persons . He lives in Manhattan with his wife and four children. LINKS John Starke's book, The Possibility of Prayer John's substack newsletter: https://johns...
67: Hannah Anderson on Nature's Liturgies 06.04.2021 32:24
In this conversation, Ashley sits down with Hannah Anderson to talk about a liturgy within nature and how this effects our faith. We talk spiritual formation, a new way of seeing, and what nature has to teach us. MORE ABOUT OUR GUEST Hannah Anderson is the author of several books, the most recent of which is Turning of Days: Lessons from Nature, Season and Spirit . She is an author, speaker, and w...
66: Julia Lambert Fogg on our Immigrant Neighbors 01.04.2021 35:15
In this conversation, Ashley sits down with Julia Lambert Fogg to talk about how we understand scripture, how our neighbors influence our faith, cross-cultural realities, and what Christian faith has to say about immigration. MORE ABOUT OUR GUEST Julia Lambert Fogg is a professor at Cal Lutheran University as well as an author and speaker. Fogg argues that Christians must step out of their comfort...
65: Wendy Alsup and the Fellowship of Suffering 24.03.2021 35:47
In this conversation, Ashley sits down with Wendy Alsup to talk about what it might look to suffer well and what hope we have. This is a beautiful, real, and hopeful conversation that can help you lament and hope in light of the covid-19 pandemic and recent mass shootings. MORE ABOUT OUR GUEST Wendy Alsup is an author who encourages women to engage theology for themselves. She is the author of sev...
64: Sheila Wise Rowe on Healing Racial Trauma 17.03.2021 37:25
In this conversation, Ashley sits down with Sheila Wise Rowe to talk about forms of racism, racial trauma, and the hope of Christ. It’s a practical, rich, and kind conversation you don’t want to miss. MORE ABOUT OUR GUEST Sheila Wise Rowe is a graduate of Tufts University and Cambridge College with a master's degree in counseling psychology. For over twenty-five years she has counseled abuse and t...
63: Scott Sauls on a Gentle Answer for Polarized Times 11.03.2021 29:28
In this conversation, Ashley sits down with Scott Sauls to talk about ways to bridge divides in outrage culture. We talk about spiritual formation, living eulogies, and of course his laundry routine. Scott Sauls is Pastor of Christ Presbyterian Church in Nashville, TN and author of several books, including A Gentle Answer . LINKS Scott’s website Christ Presbyterian Church : A Gentle Answer SHARE “...
62: Michael Wear on How to Best Engage Politically Now 16.10.2020 50:06
In this conversation with Michael Wear, we talk about how we can actually have hope as Christians as we engage politically. He provides us with some frameworks about voting, and helps us think Christianly about how we might engage profitably in the public sphere. Don’t miss it! Share far and wide! Make sure you listen to last week’s episode with Kaitlyn Schiess, too. Join us for Season 4 as we con...
61: Kaitlyn Schiess on the Liturgy of Politics 09.10.2020 34:39
In this conversation with Kaitlyn Schiess, author of The Liturgy of Politics , as we talk about how we’re formed by politics and how we’re formed by Christian faith. How do these two relate? Listen in to some great questions as you consider this fraught political climate as people of faith. And get some pointers to how to talk politics around the Thanksgiving table. Share far and wide! Join us for...
60: Irwyn Ince on Unity in Diversity 24.09.2020 36:35
In this conversation with Irwyn Ince, we talk about race, a theology of beauty, unity and diversity, how to communicate on sticky topics online, and what hope we have for this moment in time. Not to be missed! Join us for Season 4 as we consider hot-button issues alive and well in our world today: Living Faithfully in an Upside-Down World. LINKS Irwyn’s website: https://www.irwynince.com/about Irw...
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