Art of Leadership Network
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast is a podcast all about leadership, change and personal growth. The goal? To help you lead like never before—in your church or in your business. Carey interviews top business and church leaders like Seth Godin, Adam Grant, Nancy Duarte, Simon Sinek, Cal Newport, Patrick Lencioni, Tim Keller, Annie F. Downs, Andy Stanley, Craig Groeschel, Rob Pelinka, Michael Hyatt, Christine Caine, John Mark Comer, Henry Cloud, Gordon MacDonald, Francis Chan, Lysa TerKeurst, Ian Morgan Cron and many more. For insightful posts on leadership, change and personal growth, episo...
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Jul 9, 2026
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CNLP 717 | Does Character Even Matter Any More in Leadership (And Ministry)? 20.03.2025 24:31
Does character even matter anymore for Christians? If you look at the moral failure happening among pastors and the current culture politically, you'd think not. But the truth is your character matters far more than you think, and it's what the next generation is looking for. In this episode, Carey explores the critical role of character in leadership, especially within Christian ministry. Carey d...
CNLP 716 | A New Model for Funding Churches: Mark Batterson on Visionary Entrepreneurship, and The Gradual and Sudden Pattern of Success 18.03.2025 1:15:00
Mark Batterson unpacks the funding and church planting strategy of National Community Church. He shares how NCC went from 29 people to owning coffee houses and city blocks in one of America's most expensive real estate markets. We also discuss the truth of how 'success' goes from gradual to sudden. 🔗 Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academ...
CNLP 715 | The Most Overlooked Group in Your Church: Annie F. Downs on What Many Churches Are Missing in Ministry and the Power of Human Connection On and Offline 11.03.2025 43:58
In this live interview, Annie F. Downs returns to the podcast and explains what most churches are missing in ministry. Plus, she discusses the most overlooked group in your church, how to connect them, and the power of human connection on and offline . 🔗 Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof Fol...
CNLP 714 | How A Brick and Mortar Bookstore Defied Amazon: Mart Green on The Inner Workings of the Green Family and Navigating the Reaction to the He Gets Us Campaign 06.03.2025 1:22:01
Mart Green joins the podcast to share how his retail book chain stayed profitable and growing in the face of the rise of Amazon, defying the odds. Plus, Mart explains Hobby Lobby's Green Family's inner workings and how he navigated the critical reaction to the He Gets Us campaign. 🔗 Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouT...
CNLP 713 | The Decline of the New Atheism: Justin Brierley on The Openness of Thinkers Like Jordan Peterson and How to Have Conversations With Spiritually Open People 04.03.2025 1:15:17
Surprise. The New Atheism of people like Dawkins, Hitchins, and Sam Harris has lost favor over the last few years. Podcaster and author Justin Brierley discusses why New Atheism isn't resonating anymore, the openness of thinkers like Jordan Peterson, and how to have conversations with spiritually open people. 🔗 Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leade...
CNLP 712 | The Difference Between Preaching to a Pre-Christian and Post-Christian Culture: Mark Clark on Leveraging Your Unique Personality—Even Tourettes and OCD—and How to Talk to An Anxious Generation 25.02.2025 1:32:22
Mark Clark talks about the difference between preaching to a pre-Christian and post-Christian culture and how to do both effectively so that you can reach people and grow your church. Plus, Mark and Carey discuss how to leverage your unique gifting and quirks. Mark shares how he's learned to preach and lead with Tourettes Syndrome and OCD. And he discusses how to solve the problem of life for an a...
CNLP 711 | A Masterclass on the New Apologetics: Breaking Down What Wesley Huff Got Right with Joe Rogan and Billy Carson 20.02.2025 21:34
Christian Apologist Wesley Huff recently debated Billy Carson, which led to an appearance on the Joe Rogan Show. In both cases, Wes demonstrated a powerful approach to apologetics. In this episode, Carey outlines four best practices Wes embodied and offers five takeaways for every leader looking to engage the culture in conversations about Christianity. 🔗 Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣...
CNLP 710 | Craig Groeschel Breaks Down How He's Adapting His Communication and Preaching for Digital Ministry, AI, and Social Media, The Power of Extreme Habits and Behaviors, and Why People Are Bored With Cool Church 18.02.2025 1:16:25
Craig Groeschel breaks down how he's changing and adapting his preaching and communication style for digital ministry, AI, and social media. Plus, he shares the power of extreme habits, how to motivate yourself and others during successful seasons, and why people are bored with 'cool church' and what to do about it. 🔗 Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of...
CNLP 709 | How to Tell Whether Your Culture is Healthy, The Power of Culture in Getting Next Generation Talent, And Discovering Your Blind Spots As a Leader with Jenni Catron 11.02.2025 1:05:14
Culture expert Jenni Catron joins the podcast to discuss the signs to look for that tell you whether your church or company culture is healthy or toxic. Plus, she shares the power of culture in retaining and attracting young talent and how to discover your blind spots as a leader. 🔗 Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouT...
CNLP 708 | John Ortberg on What the Church Can Learn From Alcoholics, The Spiritual Power of Personal Inadequacy, and Why the Church Keeps Producing Elder Brothers 06.02.2025 1:21:27
John Ortberg discusses the spiritual power of admitting your personal inadequacy, what the church can learn from alcoholics, and why the church keeps producing elder brothers. 🔗 Show Notes ☕️ 2025 Church Trends Leader Guide 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof Follow @theartofleadershipnetwork BARNA'S...
CNLP 707 | Dave Ramsey On How God Broke Him as a Leader, His Top Business Lessons, and Why People Who Think They're Micromanagers Might Not Be 04.02.2025 58:31
Dave Ramsey talks about how going broke, broke him as a person and leader and the difference that's made to his leadership today. He also shares his top business lessons and talks about the keys to empowering large teams. 🔗 Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof Follow @theartofleadershipnetwork...
CNLP 706 | Tyler Staton on Lessons From His Cancer Journey, Why He Didn't Pray for Healing, and What Happens When You Can No Longer Lead From Your Strengths 28.01.2025 1:11:31
Tyler Staton shares lessons from his journey with cancer, including why he never prayed for healing, the profound transformation of suffering, and what he learned about leading from his strengths and relationships. 🔗 Show Notes ☕️ 2025 Church Trends Leader Guide 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof Follow...
CNLP 705 | Ramit Sethi On How to Teach Couples About Money in Your Church, Why Raising Money for Charity is So Hard, and How to Deal with Cheap Board Members 23.01.2025 1:20:06
Ramit Sethi, New York Times Bestselling author, podcaster, and Netflix show host, returns to the podcast. Ramit shares his insight on what couples struggle with financially and how church leaders can teach couples about money. Plus, he discusses lessons from 20 years in business, why raising money for charity is so hard, and how to deal with cheap board members. 🔗 Show Notes ☕️ 2025 Church T...
CNLP 704 | The Dismal State of Evangelism, the Divide Between Church and Culture, and The Missed Opportunity of Unchurched People's Surprising Spiritual Openness with David Kinnaman and Mark Matlock 21.01.2025 1:15:51
Only 1% of pastors say their churches are very effective at evangelism. Yet, 72% of people say they are open spiritually. In this episode, Barna CEO David Kinnaman and author Mark Matlock continue the 2025 Church Trends series and discuss the current divide between church and culture, the surprisingly dismal state of evangelism in the church today, and the missed opportunity of unchurched people's...
CNLP 703 | Noah Herrin on High Growth Church Planting, Leading with Community over Content, and How a Church With An Average Age of 25 Got Started 14.01.2025 1:31:49
Church planter Noah Herrin continues the 2025 church trends series as he and Carey discuss high-growth church planting. Noah shares how he created a ministry model that leads with community over content and how a 14-month-old church that attracts 700 people on the weekend has built a congregation with an average age of 25 years old. 🔗 Show Notes ☕️ 2025 Church Trends Leader Guide 📩 On The Ris...
CNLP 702 |The Secrets of High Conversion Growth Churches And the Keys to Evangelism in Today's Culture with Joby Martin and Mike Housholder 09.01.2025 1:09:02
Joby Martin and Mike Housholder both lead high-conversion growth churches. That means the growth they're seeing isn't coming from transfer growth. How are they doing it? As the 2025 Church Trends series continues, they share their secrets to reaching unchurched people, how to speak to insiders and outsiders at the same time, and the keys to evangelism in today's culture. 🔗 Show Notes ☕️ 2025 Ch...
CNLP 701 | College Revival, Gen Z's Confession Movement, and Bridging the Revival to Churches with J.P. Pokluda and Jennie Allen 07.01.2025 1:18:49
J.P. Pokluda and Jennie Allen join Carey to share their experiences with the college revival happening across the United States. As the 2025 Church Trends series continues, they discuss Gen Z's embrace of confession and deliverance and whether the revival can jump the river to churches. 🔗 Show Notes ☕️ 2025 Church Trends Leader Guide 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The...
CNLP 700 | 2025 Church Trends: Gen Z Is In Revival and Retreat At the Same Time, Evangelism is on Life Support, and More 02.01.2025 24:06
Carey Nieuwhof shares the top 5 church trends leaders need to pay attention to in 2025. Carey discusses how Gen Z is in both revival and retreat, evangelism is on life support, church closures are outpacing church plants 3-1, the rise of the non-derivative church, and the state of pastoral mental health. 🔗 Show Notes ☕️ 2025 Church Trends Leader Guide 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Ch...
CNLP 699 | Zach Zehnder on What's Wrong in Current Discipleship, Planting a Church In a Mainline Denomination, and How to Know When It's Time to Leave 31.12.2024 1:13:47
What's wrong with the current approach to discipleship? Lutheran pastor and author Zach Zehnder talks about what's wrong with the current approach to discipleship and what it's like to plant a church in a mainline denomination. Plus, Carey and Zach discuss the challenges of being an entrepreneurial pastor and how these innovative church leaders know when it's time to leave their clergy positions....
CNLP 698 | Counterintuitive Advice on How to Attract and Keep High Performers, Getting Better Before Getting Bigger as a Younger Leader, and Thoughts on Paul Graham and Brian Chesky's Founder Mode with Brett Hagler 24.12.2024 1:17:23
How do leaders attract and keep high performers? Brett Hagler, Y Combinator grad and New Story Founder, shares a young leader's counterintuitive advice on how to attract and keep high performers. Plus, Brett discusses getting better before getting bigger, and he and Carey share their thoughts on Paul Graham and Brian Chesky's Founder Mode theory. 🔗 Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preac...
CNLP 697 | Decision Fatigue is Bad. Indecision Fatigue is Worse: The Real Cost of Not Deciding 19.12.2024 22:49
Many leaders understand the cost of decision fatigue, but very few understand the cost of indecision fatigue—the real cost of not deciding. In this episode, Carey Nieuwhof explains what indecision fatigue is, what it costs, and offers four practical strategies you can use to start making wise, timely decisions. 🔗 Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Lea...
CNLP 696 | Bob Goff on Being More Available as a Leader, Whimsy, What He's Learned from Millions of People Who Have His Phone Number, and How to Infuse Adventure Into an Otherwise Ordinary Life 17.12.2024 1:11:22
Bob Goff returns to the podcast and shares what he's learned from millions of people who have had his phone number, how to be more available as a leader, and how to infuse whimsy and adventure into an otherwise ordinary life. 🔗 Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof Follow @theartofleadershipnetwo...
CNLP 695 | Chad Veach on Red Flags of Pride in Ministry, How to Process When People Leave Your Church, and What Happens When You're Operating Out of Gifting Alone 10.12.2024 1:07:24
Chad Veach talks about the red flags of pride in ministry and leadership, how to process things when people leave your church, and what happens when you're operating out of your gifting alone, not out of humility. 🔗 Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof Follow @theartofleadershipnetwork This ep...
CNLP 694 | The Story Behind Unreasonable Hospitality and The Bear, Navigating Control and Collaboration, and Handling Criticism and Praise with Will Guidara 05.12.2024 1:22:12
Will Guidara shares the backstory to his book, Unreasonable Hospitality, and his involvement in the hit TV series The Bear. Plus, Will and Carey discuss navigating control and collaboration and how leaders can handle criticism and praise better. 🔗 Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof Follow @the...
CNLP 693 | Al Gordon on Revival and Pre-Revival in the Church, The Anatomy of a Revival, and Rethinking the Things That The Church Got Wrong 03.12.2024 1:06:03
Al Gordon, founder of Saint. Church in London, talks about revival and pre-revival in the church, the anatomy of revival, and rethinking the things the church got wrong. Plus, he shares why architecture can be the place where church and culture intersect. 🔗 Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof...
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