The Creative Control Network

The Business of the Business

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Welcome to The Business of the Business. This show will take a deep dive into the business of pro wrestling with Lavie Margolin (TrumpMania) and John Poz (Two Man Power Trip). Examining the business world of professional wrestling. Beyond the highest profile WWE stock earnings and reports, exists a fascinating business: the wrestling business. Every week, you'll learn about the less talked about stories on the national, international and local wrestling scene as well as hear from some interesting rare guests along the way.

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Latest episode

Jul 3, 2026

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Episodes

Episode 69 - why IMPACT could sell for $50 million 23.03.2022

For today's episode as part of the Creative Control Network, on The Business of the Business podcast we discuss the BIG NEWS of the week. Hosts John Poz and Lavie Margolin break down why IMPACT could sell for $50 million. We will also discuss Tony Khan, Supercard of Honor, Discovery Plus, Sinclair Broadcasting, HBO Max, NJPW, Triller, and so much more! Support The Business of the Business podcast...

Episode 68 - Kyle Davis, COO/Producer/Announcer at the NWA 17.03.2022

For today's episode as a part of the Creative Control Network, on The Business of the Business podcast we bring in Kyle Davis the COO/Producer/Announcer at the NWA. John Poz, Lavie, and Kyle will discuss NWA, The Crockett Cup, Billy Corgan, FITE, ROH, AEW, Sinclair, YouTube, and so much more! We will also talk about WWE vs MLW Lawsuit, and a ton of other topics as well! Support The Business of the...

Episode 67 - AEW buying Ring Of Honor 09.03.2022

For today's episode as part of the Creative Control Network, on The Business of the Business podcast we discuss the BIG NEWS of the week. Hosts John Poz and Lavie Margolin break down the deal of ROH selling to AEW. We will discuss Tony Khan's purchase, why he did it, did he overpay for it, what the deal was, Cody Rhodes, Sinclair Broadcasting, streaming on HBO Max, and so much more! Support The Bu...

Episode 66 - ROH selling to AEW, Triller, Freddie Prinze Jr & more! 02.03.2022

For today's episode as part of the Creative Control Network, on The Business of the Business podcast we discuss the BIG NEWS of the week. Hosts John Poz and Lavie Margolin talk about ROH selling to AEW, Triller, Freddie Prinze Jr, Live event ticket information, wrestling revenue, AAA, NJPW, IMPACT, MLW, David Marquez, and so much more! Support The Business of the Business podcast by checking out m...

Episode 65 - Dorian Roldan, the Director General of Lucha Libre AAA 22.02.2022

For today's episode as a part of the Creative Control Network, on The Business of the Business podcast we bring in Dorian Roldan, the Director General of Lucha Libre AAA. John Poz, Lavie, and Dorian will discuss Triple Mania, Rey de Reyes, FITE, Marvel, the future of AAA, Konnan, WWE, AEW, Lucha Underground, and so much more! We will also talk about ROH, CTN, GCW, CWFH, IWTV and a ton of other top...

Episode 64 - Matt Farmer of DEFY Wrestling 16.02.2022

For today's episode as a part of the Creative Control Network, on The Business of the Business podcast we bring in Matt Farmer from DEFY Wrestling. In the interview we discuss DEFY, the Pacific Northwest territory, AEW's influence, working with NJPW, and the 5th Anniversary Show. We will also talk AEW, NJPW, GCW, CWFH, and a ton of other topics as well! Support The Business of the Business podcast...

Episode 63 - BRANDON THURSTON of WRESTLENOMICS 09.02.2022

For today's episode a part of the Creative Control Network, on The Business of the Business podcast we bring back, BRANDON THURSTON of WRESTLENOMICS for a terrific interview covering the Wrestlenomics report: Pro-Wrestling Industry Report 2021: 71-pages of metrics, analysis, and insights for major pro-wrestling companies. We will also talk WWE, AEW, NJPW, and a ton of other topics as well! Support...

Episode 62 - CEO of Title Match Network, Telly Bistis 02.02.2022

For today's episode a part of the Creative Control Network, on The Business of the Business podcast we bring on CEO of Title Match Network, Telly Bistis. Hosts John Poz and Lavie Margolin talk with Telly about starting the Title Match Network, the library, the shoot interviews, the business side, running shows, and so much more! Plus some BIG News on GCW, AAA, and the live attendance numbers. Supp...

Episode 61 - GCW at the Hammerstein Ballroom 26.01.2022

For today's episode as part of the Creative Control Network, on The Business of the Business podcast we discuss the BIG NEWS of the week. Hosts John Poz and Lavie Margolin talk about the big GCW PPV at the Hammerstein Ballroom, Live event ticket information, wrestling revenue, AAA, NJPW, the NWA, ROH, IMPACT, MLW, David Marquez, and so much more! Support The Business of the Business podcast by che...

Episode 60 - Lou Seals, Chairman and CEO of Seals Media 18.01.2022

For today's episode a part of the Creative Control Network, on The Business of the Business podcast we bring on Chairman and CEO of Seals Media, Lou Seals. Hosts John Poz and Lavie Margolin talk with Lou about his history in pro wrestling, TUFF TV, Seals Media, ESPN, WWF, USA Network, the NWA, CWFA, Action Channel, FOX Sports, and so much more! Plus some BIG News on IMPACT, ROH, GCW, and the live...

Episode 59 - Jeff Jarrett 10.01.2022

For today's episode a part of the Creative Control Network, on The Business of the Business podcast we bring on former NWA and WCW World Heavyweight Champion, Double J Jeff Jarrett. Hosts John Poz and Lavie Margolin talk with Double J about #PICKAFITE, FITE tv, GCW, The Last Outlaw, Taylor Swift, the My World Podcast, and so much more! Plus some BIG News on ROH, GCW, MLW, IMPACT, and NJPW on AXS T...

Episode 58 - BJ Bethel 05.01.2022

For today's episode a part of the Creative Control Network, on The Business of the Business podcast we bring on journalist and reporter, BJ Bethel. Hosts John Poz and Lavie Margolin talk with BJ about journalism in wrestling, writing in wrestling, Sinclair broadcasting, and so much more! Plus some BIG News on Jeff Jarrett, T Pain, Masked Republic, GCW, MLW, IMPACT, Warrior Wrestling, and the live...

Episode 57 - BIG NEWS of the week 30.12.2021

For today's episode as part of the Creative Control Network, on The Business of the Business podcast we discuss the BIG NEWS of the week. Hosts John Poz and Lavie Margolin talk about the 2022 ticket projections, Omnicron variant hurting ticket sales, Freddie Prinze, Macalauy Culkin, AAA, NJPW, the NWA, ROH, IMPACT, GCW, MLW, AROLUCHA, and so much more! Become a supporter of this podcast: https://w...

Episode 56 - U.S. Pro Wrestling Live Event Analysis 23.12.2021

For today's episode a part of the Creative Control Network, on The Business of the Business podcast we discuss the U.S. Domestic non WWE-AEW Attendance Pro Wrestling Live Event Analysis: 2021 (July-December). Hosts John Poz and Lavie Margolin analyze GCW, NWA, NJPW USA, ROH, IMPACT, MLW, NEW, and so much more! Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-business-of-the...

Episode 55 - Josh Olsen of Gimmick Press 16.12.2021

For today's episode apart of the Creative Control Network, on The Business of the Business podcast we bring on Josh Olsen of Gimmick Press. Hosts John Poz and Lavie Margolin talk with Josh about what Gimmick Press is, Working Stiff- the greatest anthology of pro wrestling literature and art, the Three Way Dance, wrestling memorabilia, magazines, and more! Plus some BIG News on the future of ROH an...

Episode 54 - BIG NEWS of the week 09.12.2021

For today's episode as part of the Creative Control Network, on The Business of the Business podcast we discuss the BIG NEWS of the week. Hosts John Poz and Lavie Margolin talk about The Crash, Braun Strowman, the Omnicron variant hurting ticket sales, Freddie Prinze, Will Ospreay, NJPW, the NWA, ROH, IMPACT, GCW, MLW, All Japan, and so much more! Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.sp...

Episode 53 - Brett Lauderdale of Game Changer Wrestling 01.12.2021

For today's episode apart of the Creative Control Network, on The Business of the Business podcast we bring back Brett Lauderdale of Game Changer Wrestling. Hosts John Poz and Lavie Margolin talk with Brett about the GCW sellout of the Hammerstein Ballroom in NYC, PCO, The Briscoe Brothers, Being the 3rd top promotion, as well as run through a lot of the top news stories including AAA, Impact, Ant...

Episode 52 - 1 Year Anniversary 24.11.2021

For today's episode as part of the Creative Control Network, on The Business of the Business podcast we interview Mike Shalik of SESCOOPS ( Wrestling News & Sports Entertainment Coverage since 2004.) Business of the Business is NOW 'the official business podcast of SEScoops'. Hosts John Poz and Lavie Margolin talk with Mike will discuss the BIG news of the week including ticket sales, WWE, AEW, NJ...

Episode 51 - AEW & a possible 3rd big promotion coming 16.11.2021

For today's episode as part of the Creative Control Network, on The Business of the Business podcast we discuss the BIG NEWS of the week. Hosts John Poz and Lavie Margolin talk about AEW, Private Equity money in wrestling, a possible 3rd big promotion coming, NJPW, the NWA, ROH, IMPACT, GCW, MLW, and so much more! Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-business-of...

Episode 50 - WWE releases, huge update on the GCW vs IWTV lawsuit 11.11.2021

For today's episode a part of the Creative Control Network, on The Business of the Business podcast we discuss the BIG NEWS of the week. Hosts John Poz and Lavie Margolin talk about WWE releases, ROH releasing all of their talent, huge update on the GCW vs IWTV lawsuit, MLW/AJPW deal, MLW in Mexico for a Supercard with the Crash, Sinclair Broadcasting, and so much more! Become a supporter of this...

Episode 49 - the Ring of Honor shutdown 01.11.2021

For today's episode as part of the Creative Control Network, on The Business of the Business podcast we dedicate the whole episode to the Ring of Honor shutdown. Hosts John Poz and Lavie Margolin talk about ROH's downfall, All In, AEW stealing their fanbase, talents contracts being terminated, Sinclair Broadcasting financial issues, the exit strategy, the Library, if they will sell it to WWE or AE...

Episode 48 - WWE WrestleMania week hurting the Indies 27.10.2021

For today's episode a part of the Creative Control Network, on The Business of the Business podcast we discuss the BIG NEWS of the week. Hosts John Poz and Lavie Margolin talk about WWE WrestleMania week hurting the Indies, Booker T's ROW making noise, NJPW turning a profit, MLW's distribution deal, Sinclair Broadcasting in financial trouble, GCW's ticket sales, OVW, ROH, Dark Side of the Ring and...

Episode 47 - the BIG NEWS of the week 19.10.2021

For today's episode a part of the Creative Control Network, on The Business of the Business podcast we discuss the BIG NEWS of the week. Hosts John Poz and Lavie Margolin talk about AEW vs. WWE, AEW on CW Network, Sinclair Broadcasting's financial evaluation, IMPACT, MLW, GCW, ROH, VICE, Dark Side of the Ring and so much more! Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/th...

Episode 46 - AEW being competition for WWE 13.10.2021

For today's episode a part of the Creative Control Network, on The Business of the Business podcast we discuss the BIG NEWS of the week. Hosts John Poz and Lavie Margolin talk about AEW being competition for WWE, Ratings History, Variety article on AEW, Twitch leak, Triller being bought by Ballys, IMPACT, MLW, GCW, WOW, NWA, NEW, ROH, VICE, Dark Side of the Ring's decline, and so much more! Become...

Episode 45: the BIG NEWS of the week! 06.10.2021

For today's episode a part of the Creative Control Network, on The Business of the Business podcast we discuss the BIG NEWS of the week. Hosts John Poz and Lavie Margolin talk about IMPACT in Vegas, Poz at MLW Fightland, Triller buying FITE, GCW, Master P's ownership of House of Glory, NEW, ROH, VICE, Dark Side of the Ring's decline, and so much more! Become a supporter of this podcast: https://ww...

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