Frank Prendergast and Justin Collery
The AI Argument
Worried that AI is moving too fast? Worried like me that it's not moving fast enough? Just interested in the latest news and events in AI. Frank Prendergast and Justin Collery discuss in 'The AI Argument' Contact Frank at frank@frankandmarci.com linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast Contact Justin at justin.collery@wi-pipe.com X - @jcollery
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Jul 10, 2026
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The AI Argument EP57 - Fired for Copyright Report, ChatGPT Causes Divorce, and AI Can’t Grade 19.05.2025 39:07
The head of the US Copyright Office warned that Big Tech is pushing beyond fair use, and then got promptly fired. Frank’s worried about political interference with copyright policy, while Justin says it’s just America doing what it does best: innovating first, legalising later. They agree copyright is headed for a reset, but disagree on the best path to that reformation. They also break down the...
The AI Argument - EP56 Dead Man Speaks in Court, Bot Dupes 46K on X, and AI Act Tensions 14.05.2025 36:15
The EU wants to lead the world on trustworthy AI, but can it really regulate its way to the front? Frank is optimistic. Justin rolls his eyes. What starts as a polite difference of opinion quickly turns into a pointed question: is the EU building the future, or tying it up in red tape? Frank backs the EU AI Act as a serious attempt to set global standards, pointing to its ambition and echoes of G...
The AI Argument - EP55 - Ass-Kissing AI, Zuck Eyes the Singularity, and Reddit Gets Suckered 06.05.2025 39:36
Did ChatGPT become too agreeable for its own good? Frank certainly thinks it did. Recently, every half-baked idea he threw out was met with excessive praise from ChatGPT, leaving him frustrated with the relentless flattery. Justin, meanwhile, playfully suggested maybe it's nice having an AI that occasionally strokes your ego. But what made ChatGPT suddenly turn into such a sycophant? Frank un...
The AI Argument EP54 - 15% Chance AI is Conscious, Altman’s Doom Joke, and 5D Mind Expansion with AI 01.05.2025 33:58
AI consciousness could be closer than you think. Justin thinks we might already be seeing slices of awareness every time an AI answers a question. Frank’s quick to point out that we don’t even know how our own consciousness works, so deciding whether AI is conscious is tricky. They both agree that we’re a lot less certain about all this than we like to pretend. Especially when a new expert at Anth...
The AI Argument - E52 - Google’s Winning Week, OpenAI Skip Safety, and Kickboxing Robots 14.04.2025 38:29
Google’s Gemini 2.5 isn’t just better, it might be in a league of its own. From coding to content creation, it’s outperforming everything else. And for once, nobody’s laughing at Google's AI efforts. While Justin’s all-in on the power and promise of Google’s new Agent framework, Frank’s still reeling from Google charging him €25 a pop to test VEO 2, and not even bothering with a warning label...
The AI Argument - e51 - AI Reshaping Humanity, Creative Rights Battles, and AI Condoms 04.04.2025 37:58
Can AI give us deeper relationships, sharper thinking, and more meaningful lives, or is it about to strip away everything that makes us human? Justin argues we’re heading for more time with loved ones and a mental renaissance. Frank’s not buying it. He points to warnings from hundreds of tech experts who think AI could tank empathy, decision-making, and even mental health. Especially if it's...
Manus Beats OpenAI, AI’s Hidden Goals, and Copyright as National Security - The AI Argument EP48 17.03.2025 32:10
Manus might be the biggest leap in agentic AI yet, but is it groundbreaking AI, or just a well-dressed remix of existing tech? It’s making waves, but there’s no secret sauce. No next-gen model. Just some clever engineering. If an independent team can outshine OpenAI and Google with off-the-shelf tools, what does that say about the so-called AI giants? OpenAI wasted no time dropping new developer t...
The AI Argument EP45: AI Safety Gutted, Grok’s Rapid Ascent, and the Creepiest Robot Yet 04.03.2025 32:23
Elon Musk once called AI an existential risk. Now he’s built one of the fastest-moving AI companies in history. Grok 3 has landed, and according to some, it’s the best AI model yet. But while AI developers are breaking speed records, regulators are packing up their desks. Musk (who not long ago demanded a six-month AI pause) now has influence in the White House, and Trump’s administration is gutt...
The AI Argument EP46: Grok 3’s Rigged Answers, Ireland’s Copyright Debate, and an Accidental Evil AI 04.03.2025 36:06
AI copyright laws could be about to change, but should they? A new report from Ireland’s AI Advisory Council recommends giving AI-generated works limited copyright protection while letting creators opt out of AI training. Frank thinks that’s a reasonable way to protect artists. Justin thinks it’s a fussy bureaucratic workaround that won’t help Europe keep up in the AI race. Copyright holders, he...
The AI Argument - E44 - The Valentine Edition - Justin's bromance with JD Vance 16.02.2025 35:18
JD Vance thinks AI won’t replace workers. That’s not just wrong—it’s the kind of wrong that makes you question everything else he said. In his speech at the Paris AI summit, he insisted the US will innovate, not regulate, as if those two things are mortal enemies. Justin’s smitten—he thinks Vance is cutting through the fear-mongering. Frank, on the other hand, is questioning the man’s grip on rea...
The AI Argument - E43 - Just use OpenAI's Deep Research 11.02.2025 40:28
🎙️ This Week on The AI Argument: The AI landscape is shifting at breakneck speed—game-changing models, geopolitical AI battles, and the looming disruption of entire job sectors. Let’s dive in. 🔍 Biggest Stories: OpenAI releases Deep Research: Featuring reasoning + action capabilities, this could take single-digit percentage of jobs worldwide. Are we on the brink of software agents replacing kn...
DeepSeek’s Tiny Titan, Project Stargate, and the Race to AGI: The AI Argument EP41 31.01.2025 39:09
Justin says it’s time to stop debating: AGI is coming by 2026—end of. His proof? The jaw-dropping $500 billion Project Stargate—and the game-changing mini-models from DeepSeek. These tiny AI marvels deliver the power of OpenAI models at a fraction of the cost, and they’re sending shockwaves through the tech world. But there’s more to this week’s AI drama than Stargate and DeepSeek—both of which h...
The AI Argument EP40 - Welcome to 2025!!! 21.01.2025 37:30
OpenAI promises “shared prosperity” in their Economic Blueprint, but is this a real vision for the future or just a PR stunt to win over regulators and politicians? Justin thinks it’s a bold step forward, while Frank smells corporate spin. Their Economic Blueprint certainly sounds exciting—jobs, growth, and AI-powered goodness—but Frank reckons if you scratch the surface it’s less “shared prosper...
The AI Argument - S1E36 - Shipmas begins 09.12.2024 33:13
Is OpenAI’s $200/month pricing a stroke of genius, or are they just testing how far they can push us? Frank and Justin tackle OpenAI’s first "gift" from the 12 Days of Shipmas: the Pro tier. Justin reckons the eye-watering price might make sense if they throw in unlimited Sora and GPT-4.5 access. Frank, meanwhile, wonders how many people really need an AI that costs $200 a month. Then th...
The AI Argument EP31: Voice Mode Letdowns, Brundage's AGI Warning, and AI’s Desktop Takeover 30.10.2024 37:19
Advanced Voice Mode is finally here in Europe, but it’s… a bit awkward. Justin tried it out in the car, only to end up in an unwanted chat with his phone that just wouldn’t quit. It’s fast, sure, but Frank and Justin agree it’s still missing the cues that make a real conversation feel natural. Then they dive into some big questions about where AI is heading, starting with a warning from former Ope...
The AI Argument - S1E2 - AI-generated content is taking over social media, and Frank is furious. 20.10.2024 33:26
In a world where stolen content is fed through AI, polished up, and posted for likes, the line between authentic voices and recycled fluff is getting harder to see. Frank argues that this wave of inauthentic content could signal the death of social media as we know it. He points out how some people are building massive followings on empty AI posts, defeating the purpose of ‘social’ media. Justin,...
The AI Argument - S1E29 - We all need a break, even the robots! 12.10.2024 35:57
Is AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) just around the corner, or is it still a ways off? While Gianluca Mauro argues we’re not close, Demis Hassabis is more optimistic, the reality is that even the top minds in AI can’t seem to agree on what’s coming next. Frank and Justin also break down Elon Musk’s latest promises—$30,000 robots and self-driving cars—questioning whether we’re any closer to t...
The AI Argument - S1E28 - Naivety abounds! Full steam aheaed! 05.10.2024 37:19
The battle over superintelligence is heating up, and not everyone agrees on how to handle it. While some are calling for a 20-year halt on its development to avoid an existential threat, others see that as an impossible goal in a world dominated by geopolitical competition. Frank thinks there’s a chance for global cooperation, but Justin argues it’s pure fantasy with China and the U.S. leading th...
The AI Argument EP27 - OpenAI's leadership style and EU Overregulation 02.10.2024 36:34
The departure of OpenAI’s CTO, Mira Murati, isn’t just a blip—it seems to signal deeper turmoil within one of the most important companies of our time. As Sam Altman continues to dominate the headlines and shape OpenAI’s future, the exits of key figures raise questions about the company’s internal dynamics. Is Altman’s leadership style pushing people out, or is OpenAI’s shift from nonprofit to p...
The AI Argument - S1E2 - Frank goes Nuclear!!! 25.09.2024 33:14
Most people freaked out when LinkedIn quietly opted everyone into using their personal data for AI training. While Frank thinks it’s a violation of privacy, Justin argues that LinkedIn is a public platform, and anyone can scrape your data, regardless of privacy settings. The two debate whether it’s even possible to control how your online information gets used. Meanwhile, nuclear power plants are...
The AI Argument - S1E25 - Justin breathes again as OpenAI release a new ... well, we're not quite sure what they released 14.09.2024 31:45
OpenAI’s new o1 model has stirred up plenty of questions—is it really a brand-new model or a reworked version of GPT-4? Justin and Frank explore the model’s capabilities, especially its standout performance in maths, coding, and reasoning, and whether it's worth the hype. While it outperforms humans in highly technical tasks, how does it hold up for more everyday needs, like marketing? The c...
The AI Argument - S1E2 - Is $2k a reasonable to end all SAAS companies? 10.09.2024 33:55
AI tools are transforming businesses, but are they worth a $2,000 price tag? Frank and Justin tackle this hot topic, reacting to rumours of OpenAI's upcoming "Strawberry" model, which could cost enterprises that much each month. While Justin doubts the legitimacy of such pricing, Frank argues it would only be justifiable if the AI tools could operate autonomously and with absolute...
The AI Argument - S1E23 - Gartner in despair - 80% of AI projects do not fail, they haven't started yet! 05.09.2024 31:30
Is AI really in a 'Trough of Disillusionment,' or are we jumping to conclusions too soon? Frank and Justin take a close look at Gartner's claim that AI has peaked and that users are now sliding into disillusionment. With the rapid advances in AI, it seems premature to be disillusioned, but moving beyond the hype might usher in a phase of more focused and productive use cases. You’l...
The AI Argument - S1E21 - Yabadabadoo!!!! 21.08.2024 33:55
What happens when a mysterious Twitter account claiming to "rule the world" starts interacting with AI leaders like Sam Altman? Frank and Justin dive deep into the strange saga of iruletheworldmo, an account that appeared to mislead us all last week. → The iruletheworldmo account: AI agent, OpenAI employee, or troll? → Elon Musk’s Grok 2 model: Is it a serious competitor to ChatGPT? →...
The AI Argument - S1E20 - Show me the Strawberries!!!! 14.08.2024 36:37
Justin makes an unexpected announcement that he has joined the pauser movement. Once he clarifies his stance, it sparks a lively debate with Frank about innovation and the future of AI development. → Speculation and hype surrounding GPT-5 and the planning capabilities it might bring → Elon Musk's use of Twitter data for training AI and its implications → Google's table tennis robot and...
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