Paul Giesting, William Schmitt
That's So Second Millennium
Paul (the scientist) and Bill (the journalist) explore the boundaries between science and religion, interviewing scientists, engineers, and thinkers of all sorts.
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Jun 1, 2026
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Episode 083 - Astrobiology and the Search for Life with Jonathan Lunine 28.10.2019 17:22
Dr. Jonathan Lunine is the David C. Duncan Professor in the Physical Science and chair of the Department of Astronomy at Cornell University . He is also the vice president and a co-founder of the Society of Catholic Scientists . In this “part 5” of our interview, Dr. Lunine notes that planetary science was not always a distinct field. It drew upon components of astronomy or the geological study of...
Episode 082 - Extraterrestrial Life and Biosecurity with Jonathan Lunine 21.10.2019 12:26
In this week's episode, we discuss the possibility of extraterrestrial life in our own solar system. Dr. Lunine talked about extraterrestrial life. It’s very possible that at least microbial life exists on other planets, he said, but the chances of complex, multicellular life are much more difficult to estimate. We simply don't know what the possibilities are for life beyond the chemistry that it...
Episode 081 - The Exoplanet Revolution with Jonathan Lunine 14.10.2019 12:59
Dr. Jonathan Lunine is the David C. Duncan Professor in the Physical Science and chair of the Department of Astronomy at Cornell University . He is also the vice president and a co-founder of the Society of Catholic Scientists . In this “part 3” of our interview, Dr. Lunine talked about exoplanets . The discovery of planets outside our Solar System has revolutionized planetary science. The Kepler...
Episode 080 - The Culture of "Science vs. Religion" with Jonathan Lunine 07.10.2019 7:27
Dr. Jonathan Lunine is the David C. Duncan Professor in the Physical Science and chair of the Department of Astronomy at Cornell University . He is also the vice president and a co-founder of the Society of Catholic Scientists . In this “part 2” of our interview, Dr. Lunine cited the book Secularity and Science by Elaine Ecklund (mentioned and linked in episode 79) and co-authors. The perceived co...
Episode 079 - Conversion and Witness with Jonathan Lunine 30.09.2019 37:12
Dr. Jonathan Lunine is the David C. Duncan Professor in the Physical Science and chair of the Department of Astronomy at Cornell University . He is also the vice president and a co-founder of the Society of Catholic Scientists . Here is information about the Vatican Observatory . It was one of the starting points for Lunine’s exploration of the compatibility between science and the Catholic faith....
Episode 078 - Fr. John Hollowell 23.09.2019 28:50
Father John Hollowell is a priest of the Archdiocese of Indianapolis . He is well-known for his blog, “On This Rock.” His pastoral duties include parish leadership and chaplain roles at DePauw University and the Putnamville Correctional Faciltiy . Fr. Hollowell spoke with Paul Giesting about the number of priests throughout history who have also been active as scientists. Here is one list of pries...
Episode 077 16.09.2019 9:02
Paul here. A short episode this week. We're taking a little time off to celebrate the milestone of releasing our last SCS 2019 conference speaker interview with Megan Levis last week. The pace of interviews is likely to slow a bit, but we have several that we're looking forward to. Next week we have Fr John Hollowell, an engaging priest, campus minister, prison chaplain, blogger and social media p...
Episode 076 - Megan Levis, part 2 09.09.2019 30:23
This is the second half of TSSM’s interview with Megan Levis . We talked at greater length about this graduate student’s research and its good fit with values-informed thought, with the Society of Catholic Scientists, and even literature. The Society held its third annual conference at the University of Notre Dame a few months ago. In Megan’s presentation to the scientists at the SCS annual confer...
Episode 075 - Megan Levis, part 1 02.09.2019 23:08
Megan Levis is a fifth-year graduate student in bioengineering at the University of Notre Dame. The topic of her talk at the annual conference of the Society of Catholic Scientists was “Created in the Image and Likeness of Man.” She described the University’s bioengineering program . Growing what can be deemed the beginnings of a human brain, for purposes of research, invites important ethical con...
Episode 074 - Karin Oberg 26.08.2019 29:04
Karin Öberg is Professor of Astronomy and Director of Undergraduate Studies in the Department of Astronomy at Harvard University. Planetary formation—or stars and stellar evolution—is a focus of her research. She is a member of the Board of Directors of the Society of Catholic Scientists . See her CV here . Öberg spoke of her first academic route to astronomy being via chemistry rather than physic...
Episode 073 – Jonathan Lunine 19.08.2019 22:23
In this episode we have Jonathan Lunine on the podcast, this time talking to him about his own spiritual journey from Judaism to Catholic Christianity, and from the secular surface of life as a scientist to a deeper life where the beauty of science is one prominent part of a larger whole of human experience. We also get the chance to discuss some of his work in studying the planets during the era...
Episode 072 - Benjamin Rybicki 12.08.2019 28:52
Dr. Benjamin Rybicki, a member of the Society of Catholic Scientists, is Senior Research Scientist in the Department of Public Health Services at Henry Ford Health System in Detroit. He received his PhD in Epidemiology from the University of Michigan. His research focuses on the epidemiology, demographics and genetics of sarcoidosis, Parkinson’s disease, and prostate cancer. There is a strong huma...
Episode 071 - Sonsoles de Lacalle 05.08.2019 28:47
Sonsoles de Lacalle, a physician and neuroscientist, has recently taken the position of professor and Chair, Health Science, at California State University Channel Islands . She previously served as associate professor of biomedical sciences at Ohio University and Director of the Office of Advanced Studies in Ohio University’s Heritage College of Osteopathic Medicine. Dr. De Lacalle, a member of t...
Episode 070 - Nicanor Austriaco 29.07.2019 25:54
In today's episode we sit down with Fr. Nicanor Austriaco, a Dominican friar, biologist, and bioethicist on the faculty at Providence College. Similarly to our interview with Fr. Lawrence Machia, we discuss the way in which science and a vocation to both the priesthood and life in a specific religious order intertwined in his life, with the additional perspective that his Filipino heritage contrib...
Episode 069 - Fr. Lawrence Machia OSB and Daniel vanden Berk, part II 22.07.2019 16:41
For background on Fr. Machia and Dr. Vanden Berk and this interview, see the show notes for Episode 68. In Episode 69, we mentioned approvingly one of the many books about Galileo, who was central to Fr. Machia’s talk at the conference. The book is Galileo’s Daughter . Contrary to a still-commonplace assumption in popular culture and the average person’s understanding of history, Galileo did not s...
Episode 068 - Fr. Lawrence Machia OSB and Daniel vanden Berk, part I 15.07.2019 30:29
Father Lawrence Machia, OSB, is a Benedictine monk at St. Vincent College and Archabbey in Latrobe, PA. The public can view his 2019 Society of Catholic Scientists presentation on You Tube. Father Machia’s talk made reference to Galileo’s letter to Benedetto Castelli . Dr. Daniel Vanden Berk is an associate professor of physics at St. Vincent College. Fr. Machia and Dr. Vanden Berk, both very inte...
Episode 067 - Maureen Condic, part III 08.07.2019 35:14
The conversation involving Dr. Condic, Dr. Giesting and Schmitt turned to the complexities of the nation’s debate about abortion. That debate engages a mix of biological facts (which may or may not be probed in the full context of updated knowledge), personal experiences, and deeply held principles, positions, and emotions including authentic sympathy for the circumstances in which pregnant women...
Episode 066 - Maureen Condic, part II 01.07.2019 35:14
Our discussion of totipotent, pluripotent, and plenipotent stem cells helped to clarify a complex subject of great importance to many people, such as those who suffer from diseases awaiting therapies capturing the power of these cells. Dr. Maureen Condic, as a pioneer in this field, contributed insights in 2013 by developing the concept of plenipotent cells. See her journal article . Our discussio...
Episode 065 - Maureen Condic, part I 24.06.2019 40:02
University of Utah’s information page for Dr. Maureen Condic . She is an Associate Professor of Neurobiology and Anatomy, with an adjunct appointment in Pediatrics. Her research focuses on the role of stem cells in development and regeneration. She has taught human embryology in the University’s Medical School for 20 years. See Dr. Condic’s biographical summary in the list of speakers at the Socie...
Episode 064 - SCS 2019 Panel, part II 17.06.2019 30:25
This is the second part of our panel discussion with two conference attendees, Merissa Newton, a philosophy instructor at the University of New England and Geoffrey Woollard, a cancer researcher at the University of Toronto. [This file is vastly improved from the original version; Bill was able to provide a backup from his portable microphone.] The individual videos of the conference talks are or...
Episode 063 - SCS 2019 Panel, part I 13.06.2019 33:58
After laboring through some technical problems, here is our first full post-SCS Conference episode. We had a panel discussion with two conference attendees, Merissa Newton, a philosophy instructor at the University of New England and Geoffrey Woollard, a cancer researcher at the University of Toronto. This conference was a heady experience, and as a self-taught amateur podcaster and interviewer,...
Bonus - Quick Hits - SCS 2019 10.06.2019 14:21
Paul and Bill do a quick rundown of the highlights of the SCS Conference. Look for our panel discussion and interviews with conference speakers starting tomorrow! The audio quality is definitely off on this one. Maybe a hardware issue.
Episode 062 - Jonathan Lunine SCS Conference Preview 03.06.2019 18:38
We had more insane audio problems on this episode; Paul's audio from Zencastr was unusable. I had to record a new introduction and first question, then splice in our backup recording from Zoom. Jonathan Lunine is a prominent planetary scientist. He teaches at Cornell and is a member of the National Academy of Sciences; he has won a Urey award and holds a number of other academic distinctions. He w...
Episode 061 – Preview of SCS Conference 2019 27.05.2019 26:42
Bill and Paul discuss the upcoming SCS conference at Notre Dame, June 7-9, on “What Does It Mean To Be Human?” Themes we discussed: The question of human origins: from the natural theology perspective… when did consciousness, qualia, free will appear? From the perspective of Judeo-Christian revelation… how do the origin stories in Genesis compare to contemporary archeology and anthropology? The...
Episode 060 – What Does It Mean To Be Human? (SCS 2019) 20.05.2019 29:12
Today we continue our conversation with Stephen Barr about this year’s Society of Catholic Scientists conference, which will feature great speakers discussing the nature of humanity and its bounds in terms of time and technology. You can see a full list of speakers here and the program for the conference here .
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