Paul Giesting, William Schmitt
That's So Second Millennium
Paul (the scientist) and Bill (the journalist) explore the boundaries between science and religion, interviewing scientists, engineers, and thinkers of all sorts.
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Jun 1, 2026
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Episode 130 - Natasha Toghramadjian’s Research into Earth-Shaking Impacts 10.08.2021 35:18
Welcome to this 130th episode of our podcast. Here’s a lively conversation between two geoscientists—testifying to the opportunities for Society of Catholic Scientists (SCS) members to enjoy discussions which are at once elevated by their personal values and grounded in their diverse, expert explorations of God’s creation. Paul spoke with Natasha Toghramadjian , a Ph. D. student in geophysics—and...
Bonus Episode - WOFI Faith & Science Summit 08.08.2021 1:57
Word on Fire will be holding a Faith and Science Summit August 9-12 (starting tomorrow!). It will feature at least nine speakers, including the SCS' own Jonathan Lunine and Karin Oberg. Among the topics discussed will be - The history of the Church and science, including a wealth of details that get glossed over by the "conflict hypothesis" - Specific coverage of what went wrong between the Pope,...
Bonus Episode July 2021 26.07.2021 16:26
Paul gives an update on his move to Wyoming to take a faculty position at Wyoming Catholic College. We are looking forward to bringing you more Society of Catholic Scientists conference speaker interviews in August.
Episode 129 - Economics of Higher Purpose with Anjan Thakor 12.07.2021 46:58
An intriguing interview with a business school professor from Paul's alma mater, Anjan Thakor of the Washington University in St. Louis Olin Business School . The point of departure for this episode is Prof. Thakor's book of the same title written with Dr. Bob Quinn, and the book was launched as an analysis of why Dr. Quinn left a prestigious faculty position at the University of Michigan to go st...
Episode 128 - Radio Astronomer Signals Wonderment of ET Life 28.06.2021 1:14:30
Paul and Bill interviewed Timothy Dolch, Ph. D., assistant professor of physics at Hillsdale College . Dr. Dolch is a member of the Society of Catholic Scientists , and he spoke in June at the Society’s 2021 conference, titled, “Extraterrestrials, AI, and Minds Beyond the Human.” His talk, “The Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence: An Overview,” offered his perspectives as an astrophysicist wi...
Episode 127 - SCS Meeting 2021 08.06.2021 14:35
Paul and Bill provide an on the scene review of the Society of Catholic Scientists Conference 2021 at the Washington, D.C. Hilton. The themes were Extraterrestrial Life, Artificial Intelligence, and Minds beyond the Human. As an added service, here are some links provided by the after dinner speaker, Jennifer Wiseman, to works and groups dedicated to faith - science dialogue: Book: "The Book of th...
Episode 126 - Society of Catholic Sciences Preview with Stephen Barr 31.05.2021 1:10:56
Paul and Bill welcomed Stephen Barr, Ph. D., president of the Society of Catholic Scientists (SCS), for a return visit to TSSM. Dr. Barr, a theoretical particle physicist, is emeritus professor in the Department of Physics and Astronomy at the University of Delaware. We talked with him about the Society of Catholic Scientists and the organization’s fourth annual conference, scheduled June 4-6, 202...
Episode 125 - Chris Baglow and Jay Martin (rerun, full episode) 12.05.2021 58:30
Paul and Bill are proud to present this encore episode featuring the Science and Religion Initiative featuring the Science & Religion Initiative program conducted by the McGrath Institute for Church Life at the University of Notre Dame. In 2019, we interviewed Chris Baglow, Ph. D., director of the program, which equips Catholic high school educators with big-picture insights and detailed tools to...
Episode 124 - Geology of the Holy Land 26.04.2021 27:01
Paul and Bill discuss the basic geological features of the Holy Land, like its geomorphology and tectonics, or translated into lay terms, the reasons why its landscape takes the form that it does and why it suffers a lot of earthquakes. Paul discusses the need for a book bringing together the best geologists and the best textual experts to collaborate and discuss the possible relationships between...
Episode 123 - Jean-Pierre Isbouts Brings Us Down to Earth with Jesus of Nazareth 12.04.2021 35:47
Bill and I are excited to bring you an episode about the archeology and secular history of the time when Jesus was born, grew up, and preached. Fuller notes to come on our episode with Dr. Jean-Pierre Isbouts, author of In the Footsteps of Jesus . Jean-Pierre Isbouts, Ph. D., is a best-selling author, historian, and filmmaker who has invested decades of work in to understand and explain the Biblic...
Episode 122 - Original Sin and Mental Unhealth 22.03.2021 43:16
Paul and Bill discuss some of the ways in which human minds go wrong. Paul wonders aloud whether the state of spiritual disconnection called "original sin" is specifically manifested in the ways parents relate, or don't relate, to children and the problems that follow from that for the rest of our lives. We discuss Henri Nouwen (a little) and Eckhart Tolle (a little more) and his ideas on how enli...
Episode 121 - Megan Levis, full interview (rerun) 08.03.2021 53:19
Life is pretty intense for Paul these days. We present this interview with Megan Levis from the 2019 Society of Catholic Scientists archives, every bit as relevant now as it was then. It was originally presented as two episodes. Megan Levis is a fifth-year graduate student in bioengineering at the University of Notre Dame. The topic of her talk at the annual conference of the Society of Catholic S...
Episode 120 - Wyoming Catholic College 22.02.2021 26:02
This episode had to be rushed in due to Paul's travel schedule. He got to visit a location peculiarly dear to his heart, Lander, Wyoming, and give a talk at Wyoming Catholic College . It's just Paul's cut of the raw audio, bonus-episode style, since we had to record it Sunday afternoon. Paul and Bill discuss the visit and the substance of his field exercise, including how the ideas of our friend N...
Episode 119 - Evolution in Christianity and Geology (rerun) 08.02.2021 37:03
A rerun of Episode 6. Do not blame Morgan for the sound quality of this episode! All complaints should be directed to Paul at the email link at https://www.thatssosecondmillennium.net . Bill and I hope to be back in action soon.
Episode 118 - "I Know What You're Thinking" 27.01.2021 35:27
Paul and Bill talk here about a mix of psychology and societal dilemmas in light of Catholic values. Twelve-step programs have experience with an interpersonal phenomenon often called “taking someone else’s inventory,” Paul points out. This entails one individual assessing another through a facile psychological analysis of supposed characteristics underlying comments made or behavior shown; it can...
Episode 117 - Aida Ramos on Debt and Spending 11.01.2021 42:46
Aida Ramos, Ph. D., is an associate professor of economics at the University of Dallas. She returns to TSSM, in this episode recorded early in the week of January 4, 2021, to discuss Catholic perspectives on United States policy efforts to stimulate the economy. During the discussion, Bill recalled a class he took at the Princeton School of Public and International Affairs that outlined a rigorous...
Episode 116 - Paying Attention or Paying a Price 28.12.2020 1:00:30
In this last episode of 2020, Bill and I discuss how attention, focus, and distraction are shaping us and being engineered in our media-saturated culture. We can't pay attention to everything, and in this environment, it seems that censorship is becoming a politically acceptable option for tech companies, as the Trump election corruption allegations became forbidden topics on many platforms. Co-ho...
Episode 115 - Aida Ramos: How the Big Picture Sheds Light on Economics 14.12.2020 40:23
Our guest, economics professor Dr. Aida Ramos, returned for further conversation after Episode 114. She pointed to wisdom in papal encyclicals from the past that we still need to tap into today—for the sake of just and reasonable arrangements in society and the economy. The granddaddy of these encyclicals is Rerum Novarum , from Pope Leo XIII in 1891. Forty years later, Pope Pius XI issued Quadrag...
Episode 114 - Aida Ramos and A Church Where Economics Counts—For People 23.11.2020 30:56
Paul and Bill spoke with Aida Ramos, Ph. D. , an associate professor of economics at the University of Dallas. Prof. Ramos’ research and teaching at that private Catholic university include topics in economic development and Catholic Social Thought and their implications for public policy. She is the author of a book ( Shifting Capital: Mercantilism and the Economics of the Act of Union of 1707 )...
Episode 113 - US Election 2020 09.11.2020 56:40
Your TSSM coverage of the 2020 US election with the unique perspective Bill and Paul provide. Be sure to let us know your ideas for the presidential hopeful cage match reality show that we clearly need to augment or replace the primary election system here in the 21st century... hit us up with your proposed names and formats using the links to the right. As always, God bless America (all of it, no...
Episode 112 – A Happy Medium: By What Means? 28.10.2020 43:55
Paul and Bill focused on the 2020 elections as a point of tragically little focus in discourse or reasoning—but a good starting point for wide-ranging conversation about humanity’s desperate search for balance, hope, and sustainability in our hearts and minds. The desire for a higher wisdom—a happy medium, a golden mean—has always been complicated by our focus on ourselves and our temptation to be...
Episode 111 - A Catholic Teacher – Dear Old Golden Rule Days 12.10.2020 29:00
Brad Stalcup joins Paul and Bill in this episode to talk about his recent entry into the world of Catholic education. He began teaching religion to high school freshmen and sophomores in this fall semester of 2020—a time that Paul describes as a “baptism of fire” because of Covid-19 and today’s unusual circumstances overall. The vast majority of the approximately 120 students in Brad’s various cl...
Episode 110 - To Solve Big Problems: Let’s Get Small! 29.09.2020 50:01
In this episode, Paul and Bill are back together for a conversation that catches up on past episodes which pondered big problems in science, government, the economy, personal well-being, and more. The pondering focused on solutions as matters of step-by-step processes, but as our conversation starts, we’re feeling a bit overwhelmed by the enormity of the problems, their quantity and complexity. So...
Episode 109 - Psychology & Spirituality of Crisis 14.09.2020 32:39
A solo episode from Paul. These are the notes I used... the audio is balanced differently. Insight by Bernard Lonergan and 20/20 hindsight. What else (besides the coronavirus and similar epidemics) are we not preparing for? Can we? We can't know all the unknowns, and it is somewhere between difficult and impossible to quantify the risks even for the things we can anticipate. Yet quantification is...
Episode 108 - Masks, Science, Novelty, and Conservatism 25.08.2020 27:32
or Paving Paradise and the Parking Lots Bill and Paul discuss attitudes toward masks, and then consider why the science wasn't more settled on the subject long before Covid-19. We discuss the obsession of modern society with all things novel and consider how this plays out in science, politics, and our individual lives and families. 1. A discussion of masks as defenses against the pandemic led...
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