Tasteland
Tasteland
Creative takes on media, marketing and technology from Daisy Alioto and Francis Zierer. Daisy is the CEO of Dirt Media, a next-generation entertainment brand using emerging technology to tell the coolest stories about culture and collecting. Francis is the editor of Creator Spotlight, a weekly newsletter about creators across the world of newsletters. New episodes every Wednesday.
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Episodes
Ep. 39: In defense of internet addiction ft. Boys Club 23.04.2025 59:25
This week on Tasteland, Daisy and Francis are joined by Deana Burke and Natasha Hoskins of Boys Club, a media and creative studio. They're also the hosts of the Dumb B!tch Hour, a podcast for the deeply online, where they chat about all things tech, crypto, and pop culture news. __ Boys Club Website Twitter Dumb B!tch Hour Podcast __ References Ben's play: Rich Beyond Our Wildest Dreams Francis' e...
Ep. 38: Coachella hacks ft. Paula Mejía 16.04.2025 58:37
This week Daisy and Francis are joined by versatile writer and editor, Paula Mejía. Paula specializes in arts and culture journalism and is currently a leading contributor at Dirt. __ Paula Instagram Twitter/X Website __ Other references Francis' brand sillage piece Paula's Barnes and Noble piece __ Timestamps 00:00 Introducing Paula Mejía 00:28 Festival experiences 03:40 Coachella emergency denta...
Ep. 37: In defense of hospitality ft. Colin Nagy 09.04.2025 1:01:31
This week Daisy and Francis talk to travel and hospitality writer, Colin Nagy. Colin is also the co-creator of the newsletter 'Why is this interesting?' Colin: https://x.com/CJN Why is this interesting?: https://www.interesting.us 00:00:00 Long live the girl moss 00:04:08 The podcast mic and illusion of authority 00:06:20 Credibility laundering: How to industry plant yourself 00:11:01 Blockchain t...
Ep. 36: Future Commerce ft. Phillip Jackson and Brian Lange 02.04.2025 1:09:46
This week Daisy and Francis are joined by Phillip Jackson and Brian Lange from the Future Commerce podcast. What is the future of art in an AI world? Do we need more friction in our lives? Should AI feel shame? Listen to Future Commerce: https://www.futurecommerce.com/episodes 00:00 Introduction to Phil and Brian 01:46 Blank launch party 05:52 OpenAI’s Studio Ghibli marketing ploy 11:45 All that w...
Ep. 35: Retro Tech ft. Kori Fuerst 26.03.2025 59:12
This week Daisy and Francis are joined by Kori Fuerst, co-founder of Retrospekt, a consumer electronics company specialising in reviving retro tech for a new generation. Retrospekt: https://retrospekt.com 00:00 Introducing Kori and Restrospekt 02:35 Awkward police encounters 06:12 Defaulting to the classic 08:09 The unique Retrospekt office space 11:14 Retro collaborations and IP licensing 14:53 T...
Ep. 34: Fragrance Rich ft. Trey Taylor 19.03.2025 59:01
This week Daisy and Francis are joined by Trey Taylor, Gen Z consumer expert who has recently pivoted into the world of fragrances and just launched their perfume brand Serviette. Trey Taylor: https://x.com/treytylor Serviette: https://serviette.nyc/pages/about?srsltid=AfmBOorQMQdp9fVeRd_vV-aXXIsRid3t8o2z9NL0ZZU19-3ZWsdFridM 00:00 Introducing Trey and Serviette 00:55 The symbiotic relationship bet...
Ep. 33: On The Fence ft. Charlie Baker 12.03.2025 53:25
This week Daisy and Francis are joined by Charlie Baker, editor of The Fence, a quarterly print magazine (and weekly newsletter) focused on life in the UK and Ireland. The Fence: https://www.the-fence.com Capital Letter: https://thefencecapitalletter.substack.com/ 00:00 Introducing Charlie Baker and The Fence 01:51 The value exchange of a podcast appearance 07:48 The Fence's unique and historic of...
Ep. 32: The Dark Mode Shift ft. Edmond Lau 05.03.2025 1:00:58
This week Daisy and Francis are joined by cultural strategist, designer and art director, Edmond Lau. Edmond is known for his "luxury memes" and his recent coining of the term "dark mode shift". Follow Edmond LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/atelieredmondlau/ X: https://x.com/nstlgiaxpress 00:00 The rise of LinkedIn 07:23 An outsider's perspective on NYC culture 15:05 Edmond's unique career a...
Ep. 31: Art of the steal 26.02.2025 55:09
There's no guest this week, which gives Daisy and Francis the chance to discuss why people hate Renoir, the simultaneously growing and eroding types of media literacy, SEO arbitrage, and why we need pay people to build beautiful things. 00:00 The five things we did this week 02:38 The nuances of art deaccessioning 08:48 Why Francis has stopped sports betting 11:14 Different types of media literacy...
Ep. 30: Mammalian E-girls ft. Katherine Dee 19.02.2025 1:08:20
This week Daisy and Francis are joined by Katherine Dee, a reporter and internet culture writer since 2018. She's here to discuss the evolution of e-girls, their cultural significance, and the changing landscape of media and online identity. Katherine's X: https://x.com/default_friend Katherine's Substack: https://substack.com/@defaultfriend 00:00:00 Unique art museum experiences 00:04:15 Defining...
Ep. 29: Shelf life ft. Jad Esber 12.02.2025 57:39
Daisy and Francis are joined by Jad Esber, founder and CEO of Koodos Labs, a product and research company focused on the next generation of the internet. Koodos Labs is the creator of Shelf. Shelf: www.shelf.im Jad: https://x.com/Jad_AE 00:00 Night Life 02:20 Daisy smells like a donut 08:33 Inverting the internet's personal data model 14:47 Understanding the concept of data gravity 19:56 The algor...
Ep. 28: Statues of critics ft. Tatum Dooley 05.02.2025 56:27
Daisy and Francis are joined by art critic, curatorial consultant, and writer Tatum Dooley. She is the founder and editor of the newsletter Art Forecast. They discuss the balance of art and business, the importance of artist-first thinking, and the impact of social media on artistic identity. Art Forecast: https://artforecast.substack.com/ 00:00 Controversial college mascot rebrand 07:23 The spect...
Ep. 27: Take NOTES ft. Josh Zoerner of Night Gallery 29.01.2025 59:26
This week Daisy and Francis are joined by Josh Zoerner, founder of Night Gallery, to discuss the creative process behind their collaborative book, Notes, a tribute to the humble iPhone note. Buy Notes: https://nightgallery.metalabel.com/notes 00:00 Introducing Josh and the NOTES book 05:20 Fan of the band 09:19 Music is how we decorate time 12:46 The emotional connection to past notes 21:15 Themat...
Ep. 26: Against Platforms ft. Mike Pepi 22.01.2025 1:01:12
This week Daisy and Francis are joined by Mike Pepi to discuss his book Against Platforms: Surviving Digital Utopia. They explore the definitions and implications of platforms in the digital age and the concept of techno-utopianism. Buy Mike's book: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/761644/ Mike Pepi: https://www.mikepepi.com/writing 00:00:00 Introducing Mike Pepi and defining platforms 00:...
Ep. 25: The future of alt-lit ft. Greta Rainbow 15.01.2025 49:31
This week Francis and Daisy welcome writer and researcher Greta Rainbow. They discuss the evolving landscape of food journalism, the impact of digital art through the Glance Back browser extension, and the relationship between technology and personal identity. Glance Back piece: https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/my-machine-and-me/ Greta: https://x.com/gertsofficial 00:00 Introducing Greta 01:15...
Ep. 24: Special Sauce ft. Emily Sundberg 08.01.2025 57:17
This week Daisy and Francis are joined by Emily Sundberg, creator of the popular business newsletter Feed Me. They explore the theme of specialness in modern life, discussing how technology, communication, and social interactions have evolved and impacted our sense of intimacy and connection. Feed Me: https://www.readfeedme.com/ 00:00 Introducing Emily and Feed Me 01:40 Nothing Feels Special Anymo...
Ep. 23: Smoking (Mailbag Part 2) 01.01.2025 42:25
2025 is kicking off with another mailbag episode of Tasteland. Daisy and Francis are answering your questions about whether smoking is cool again, what sucks the most, and sharing their synesthesia wrapped. 00:00 Happy New Year 01:44 Is Smoking Cool Again? 09:12 Media That Shapes Your Worldview and Opinions 15:27 Podcasts and Personal Connections 17:58 Navigating Creative Output and Information Di...
Ep. 22: Overhyped (Mailbag Part 1) 25.12.2024 42:54
For this Christmas Day episode of Tasteland, Daisy and Francis are reaching into their sack of questions sent in by you, the listeners. Gas station orders, apple picking, hypergamy and more. 00:00 Seasons Greetings and Gas Station Eatings Overrated or Underrated 04:33 Restaurants and Queueing Culture 10:00 Alo Yoga, Working For Yourself, Baja Blast 11:07 The M Train, Apple Picking, Annie Ernaux 13...
Ep. 21: Envelope Accelerationism ft. Joshua Citarella 18.12.2024 55:54
Josh Citarella is an artist, writer, podcaster, and researcher who is best-known for his work researching online Gen Z political extremism. He’s the founder of Do Not Research, a non-profit artist community. He’s currently a dozen episodes into Doomscroll, an in-person video talkshow exploring online culture and politics. Email your questions to tastelandpod@gmail.com to be featured in our upcomin...
Ep. 20: People vs. Humanity ft. Trevor McFedries 11.12.2024 1:00:39
This week Daisy and Francis are joined by DJ, producer, founder, renaissance man Trevor McFedries. Email your questions to tastelandpod@gmail.com to be featured in our upcoming mailbag episode. 00:00:00 Ask Tasteland 00:03:41 Introducing Trevor McFedries 00:07:26 The State of Social Media and Creator Payouts 00:13:08 The Impact of Current Events on Social Media 00:18:57 Populism and the Search for...
Ep. 19: Sportsbook Nation ft. David Hill 04.12.2024 1:01:47
This week Francis and Daisy are joined by longtime magazine writer and sports gambling expert, David Hill. Read David's piece, Sportsbook Nation: https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-sports/sports-betting-law-draftkings-fanduel-1235158334/ David's website: https://www.davidhillonline.com/ 00:00 Introducing David and His Work 05:15 The Rise of Sports Betting 10:08 The Evolution of Betting M...
Ep. 18: We're all in it together ft. Defector's Jasper Wang, 404 Media's Sam Cole, and Hell Gate's Max Rivlin-Nadler 27.11.2024 1:14:34
This week we're talking worker-owned media with people from three of our favorite worker-owned publications — Defector, Hell Gate, and 404 Media. They're very transparent about what it takes to run a modern, subscription-based media business — it's a great conversation. This is from our live pod earlier this month in support of the National Writers Union's legal fund for media workers. You can sti...
Ep. 17: Dining with Ben Leventhal, founder of Blackbird 20.11.2024 55:57
This week Daisy and Francis are joined by Ben Leventhal, co-founder of Eater, Resy and, most recently, Blackbird. Blackbird: https://www.blackbird.xyz 00:00 Introducing Ben Leventhal and Blackbird 07:19 The Evolution of Restaurant Criticism 15:28 Defining New York's Definitive Restaurants 21:07 The Future of Dining Experiences 30:54 Friction in Dining Culture 35:11 Barriers to Restaurants' Adoptio...
Ep. 16: Mushrooms in our ears ft. Lauryn Menard, CEO of Gob 13.11.2024 55:13
This week Daisy and Francis are joined by Lauryn Menard, CEO and co-founder of Gob, a compostable, plastic-free, mycelium-based earplug company. Gob: https://www.gob.earth/ Tickets for the NWU event: https://dirrrt.fyi/paywriters 00:00 Introducing Lauryn, Gob and its Mission 02:03 The Concept of Friction in Modern Consumerism 06:20 Designing with End-of-Life in Mind 11:32 Scaling Production and Su...
Ep. 15: The FDA is the original tastemaker ft. Teddy Brown and Emily Shugerman 06.11.2024 50:41
This week, Daisy and Francis welcome journalists Teddy Brown and Emily Shugerman. Teddy recently covered Zyn and its masculine political symbolism for the New York Times, while Emily explored direct-to-consumer women’s health brands for The Guardian. Teddy's article: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/31/style/zyn-nicotine-pouch-masculinity.html Emily's article: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/20...
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