Yardaena Osband & Anne Gordon
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Ketubot 39: Trigger Warning: Rape 14.08.2022 16:45
There are women who might use the talmudic era version of barrier birth control, including a pregnant woman, a nursing woman, and especially with concern for the minor... So the Gemara defines who is a minor. Plus: "God protects the fools." Also, a new mishnah: what is the difference between a seducer and a rapist? Including the rapist marrying the woman he raped. Plus, the Amoraim consult the wom...
Ketubot 38: She Can't Go Home Again 13.08.2022 16:16
A new mishnah! A young woman who is betrothed and then divorced - in the event of rape, would she receive a fine? And who would receive it, if yes? It's a machloket, of course. Also, assessing whose view is represented in the mishnah - beginning with R. Akiva. What do the verses about the fine teach? Plus, juggling source material....
Ketubot 37: An Ethic of Justice 12.08.2022 19:00
A female convert needs to wait 3 months post-conversion before getting married, to be sure she wasn't pregnant prior to marriage. But not everyone agrees. Perhaps she doesn't need to wait at all. The concern being whether she would have protected herself from promiscuity before conversion. Even to what extent would she work to prevent conception, in the event of promiscuous behavior? The women in...
Ketubot 36: The Spectrum of Violation 11.08.2022 22:08
A series of cases where divorce or annulment is taking place - when does the wife receive the penalties, for example, if she's been a victim of rape or seduction - especially if she's only betrothed, and presumed to be a virgin. What about a minor? What about an aylonit? What if she's simply older and her hyman is no longer "intact" (without sexual encounter)? What about a blind woman? Also, a new...
Ketubot 35: Building Up a Gezarah Shavah 10.08.2022 19:14
Gezarah shavah! Where does the Torah specify all of the people who would deserve lashes as a punishment? From a gezarah shavah - of one or another, which is a puzzle, because a gezarah shavah should be clear and unique. Plus, the Gemara seems hesitant to learn from this gezarah shavah. Also, delving into the details of this gezarah shavah, once it's been established. Specifically, harm to a person...
Ketubot 34: Two Sins, One Death Penalty 09.08.2022 19:17
If one slaughters an animal on Shabbat or Yom Kippur, that's a violation of Shabbat or Yom Kippur, but the animal is kosher for others to eat. Which seems to line up with the view of R. Yochanan HaSandlar. And the Gemara is going to mull his view and why it lines up here better than the opinions of others do. Also, a novel insight regarding a fine that came together with a punishment that deserves...
Ketubot 33: Lashes, Warnings, and the Fiery Furnace 08.08.2022 21:44
The impact of warning on sin, punishment, and how it works with plotting (conspiring) witnesses. But how can conspiring witnesses ever get a proper warning?! Unless the warning comes much earlier. But there's some concern about warning witnesses, and messing with their commitment to bring witnesses. Another rationale for not warning the conspiring witnesses is to render their case such that they b...
Ketubot 32: According to the Amount of One's Wickedness 07.08.2022 16:15
A deep dive into a dispute between Ulla and R. Yochanan about not paying and getting lashes, both, for the same event. Plus, a brief discussion of damages in general. Are those damages (5 categories) relevant for all kinds of harm? Also, the mishnayot can be interpreted to mean different cases leading to different punishments, which eases their dispute. Which leads back to one punishment per actio...
Ketubot 31: Walking, Standing and Throwing 05.08.2022 13:44
The Gemara discusses at in great detail all the different steps involved with the actions of walking, standing, and throwing and how they relate to the melacha of carrying.
Ketubot 30: When a Thief Is Caught Red-handed, Yet He May Not Have to Pay 05.08.2022 15:37
The case of illicit relationships and the penalty that would need to be paid - which did not align with the view of R. Nechuniyah ben HaKaneh. He draws the connection to a shabbat violation that comes together with a monetary penalty, and how the perpetrator is only obligated on one punishment (and how Abaye and Rava understand his approach). Also, what happens if a zar decides to eat terumah (a k...
Ketubot 29: If a Kohen Gadol Rapes a Widow, Can They Marry? 04.08.2022 15:26
Chapter 3! A situation of rape... Which was treated differently back in the day. In this mishnah, the penalty that a man who rapes a girl (whose presumptive status is that she's a virgin) needs to pay to her father. Plus, the penalty for engaging in an arayot relationship. Also, a dispute about the potential relationship between the man and the woman if the woman's status is questionable - can a m...
Ketubot 28: Childhood Memories 03.08.2022 17:08
The Gemara makes assumptions about couples that have divorced to protect them against future inappropriate intimacy. Also, a mishnah on adults who recall key information from childhood, and whether their testimony about those past events is legitimate. Plus, the "ketzatzah."
Ketubot 27: Holding Hands: To No Avail 02.08.2022 17:17
A mishnah: A city that was conquered - the women who were married to kohanim are now forbidden to their husbands. But if there were witnesses that the women were unscathed, they are believed, even if they aren't usually considered credible. Plus, a counter example to weaken the strong mishnah statement, via barrels of wine, even during wartime. What if circumstances indicate that they were protect...
Ketubot 26: A Woman in Ashkelon 01.08.2022 21:12
Some historical context for kohanim and leviim, and who got to collect the terumah and ma'aser rishon when... Note the penalty of Ezra with regard to those who did not return to the land of Israel in the time of Shivat Tzion. Plus, kohanim getting their tithes on the threshing floor. Also, a new mishnah: a woman who is imprisoned by non-Jews to get her husband to pay his debt - she's allowed to re...
Ketubot 25: Are You Sure the Kohen Is a Kohen? 31.07.2022 15:42
A focus on terumah, with the distinction of how that was applied in the land of Israel, as compared to in Babylonia - where terumah derabbanan was in play. Also, it was contingent on the "chazakah" status as kohanim. Note also different kohen practices as establishing kohanim as such, in the various places. Also, how were the kohanim actually established in practice? Various narratives illustrate...
Ketubot 24: Could Kohanim Collude? 30.07.2022 18:01
What happens when 2 people claim that each other is a kohen? Is that sufficient, or is a third person needed to corroborate, such that each person has 2 witnesses confirming his status as a kohen? The answer is found in donkey drivers or merchants, who are presumed to be more likely to collude, among other examples of trustworthy business practices (or not). Also, other practices by kohanim that s...
Ketubot 23: Women Testify 29.07.2022 11:14
What happens if witnesses as to a woman's captivity only show up after she's already married (as per the mishnah)? The Gemara explains that the mishnah doesn't mean actually married. And if she has witnesses who can corroborate that she was unscathed - that is believed. Likewise, if there are witnesses that she's NOT unscathed, she's supposed to leave her marriage (especially if she's married to a...
Ketubot 22: Self-incrimination, to a Degree 28.07.2022 18:53
What is a "Beit Din chatzuf"? When the court isn't quite proper, but its acts are upheld. Also, a new mishnah who speaks about herself as having been married and is now divorced - we know that she is believed. And what of this principle of the same mouth permitting and prohibiting, where's its source? Plus, backing up one's statement with a rationale. Also, keeping the hordes away with a false cla...
Ketubot 21: Witnesses, Judges, and Stumped Amoraim 27.07.2022 13:35
Starting with the mishnah on the bottom of the previous daf - the case of witnesses who testify to their own handwriting and also to that if the co-witness - that's credible and upholds the document. But what if they only speak to their own handwriting, and not the other guy? It's a machloket whether the authentication of the other guy, beyond his own corroboration, is necessary. Also, can a witne...
Ketubot 20: Wherefore Mounds of Dirt? 26.07.2022 14:46
More on witnesses, and how they prove themselves as reliable. What about when their signatures need validation? What if they are challenged? Plus, a real tangent to a discussion on mounds of dirt that were near the city or on the path - whatever that precisely means - and when they were considered ritually impure.
Ketubot 19: Unreliable Documentation in Financial Halakhah 25.07.2022 17:30
Defining and explaining the "shtar amanah" - and why a document of "trust" is not to be believed in terms of monetary transactions. How does one prove payment, however? The documentation for loans ends up being key. It's a commitment to good faith, though it's not binding. Also, a case of witnesses who signed and died before the document was needed. People came and attested to the signatures - tha...
Ketubot 18: Signing Your Life Away 24.07.2022 15:17
What happens when two parties have a monetary claim? What level of responsibility is expected for one to be able to stake a legitimate claim? Why does the Gemara talk about a katan, a minor, bit who is clearly past the age of majority? Also, on witnesses - where they claim the signed under duress, then? What does it mean to be compelled to sign sworn testimony? When does testimony line up with thi...
Ketubot 17: All Brides Are Beautiful 23.07.2022 19:01
A famous Beit Hillel/Beit Shammai dispute, on how one dances before a bride - what is one to say? From praise for the bride, the Gemara moves to praise for the sages. Also, interrupting daily life not only for weddings, but also for funerals, though the king's entourage still takes precedence. And when to interrupt Torah study.
Ketubot 16: Virgin Brides 22.07.2022 16:06
The second chapter of Ketubot! A woman who is widowed or divorced testifies that she was a virgin when they married - and the husband testifies that she was a widow then. Which needs witnesses as to how she was dressed when she left her father's house. Plus, other indications of the time. But what if there are no witnesses? Then he is credible (not Rabban Gamliel's approach, it seems at first blus...
Ketubot 15: An Abandoned Baby 21.07.2022 17:02
More on "the majority" - from its classic case of kosher butchers and one non-kosher butcher. The implications and value of the principle for Halakhah at large. Also, the case of the abandoned baby - how do you determine who the baby is, whether Jewish or non-Jewish? What about the baby's lineage? That is considered a different category, as compared to saving the baby's life. What are the practica...
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