Talking Talmud

More on a joint get, where the date per divorce may make the difference (a dispute between Resh Lakish and R. Yochanan). Plus, a new mishnah - what happens if the signatures of the witnesses are in both Hebrew and Greek, under different sides of the get, in different orders, because of the different directions of the languages (dispute between Rashi and Rambam). Also, another mishnah, where the wi...

2 mishnayot bookend this daf, with some "end of the tractate" outlandish cases: 3 types of gittin that are not good, but they are good enough to prevent children from a future marriage from being mamzerim. Basically, when the text is lacking in some way. Plus, why witnesses sign a get - namely, to prevent the husband from denying the get, for example. Also, the Gemara attempts to determi...

A mishnah with the case of a husband who gives his wife a get with a stipulation that she will be divorced as long as you doesn't go on to marry someone she isn't allowed to marry anyway (her father, his father, and so on). Plus, a case of a husband who gives his wife a get with the stipulation that she doesn't marry someone where the marriage would take hold, but it's still prohib...

More other conditions that a husband might stipulate in a bill of divorce - for example, if he stipulates that she now marry another specific man -- then the divorce will take effect. But does that work? Or what if the condition is something that isn't humanly possible? Or on condition that she do a sin against the Torah? Also, what about when the condition is written into the get? Isn't t...

After R. Eliezer died, 4 sages (Tannaim, of course) went to refute his statement with regard to divorce stipulations, each one in turn. Plus, all of the developments of the discussion in their wake, including issues of kehunah, and more, specifically because of concerns that the marital bond remained extant. NOTE: In a first for Talking Talmud, rather than the usual conversation or tag-team, Yarda...

Chapter 9! A new mishnah - a divorce with the vocabulary of "ehla" - permitted to any man, but rather except... But doesn't that language stipulate a condition, in which case, how do they proceed? Is it a get on condition that she can't marry someone specific? Or does it specify whom she can marry?? A parallel case of "negaim" - house tzara'at - can help explain this "ehla." Also, betrothal with t...

A mishnah: A man writes a bill of divorce for his wife and then changes his mind - to what extent does that initial writing have impact in her availability to a kohen, say, in the event that he then died, and she wanted to remarry as a widow. Plus, the narrative of such a case... Also, another mishnah: Does a couple that is getting divorced need a second get if they stayed together in an inn? Plus...

A long mishnah (or a series that are published together): If a get is written with a name of a place that is not legitimate... Or other goofs in location... If other details are wrong... When is the get not a get? Plus, how a get that is not a get can really mess up a second marriage, and children from the second marriage. Plus, co-wives are treated like the divorcing woman too. Also, a deeper div...

A woman who stands on top of the roof and her husband throws the get to her - under what terms is she divorced, and when is she not? Plus, the connection to space, as per Eruvin, and Shabbat in general -- and does the domain have impact on whether the divorce is a divorce. Also, a new mishnah: when one wrote a get long advance - usable or not?

2 mishnayot: If a husband says his wife should take a promissory note from him, it's fundamentally a get, but it won't actually function to divorce her. If she comes across it, or she discovers it, it doesn't count. If he's sleeping, and has the get, all the more so, it's not being given to her... Though there are exceptional cases. Also, if the husband throws the get to his wife, the question of...

The phrasing of one who tells others to write a get for his wife if he doesn't return by a date certain - unclear whether that can be a kosher get. Plus, noting how precise this timing really is. Also, a new mishnah in the new chapter: one who throws the bill of divorce to his wife and it lands next to her - whether she's divorced may depend on where she is (her courtyard, yes; his courtyard, no)....

More on conditional divorce. Specifically, that the woman should do things for others. Plus combined conditions with witnesses. Also, a condition with regard to the time it takes a husband to return home... the condition is cancelled. Plus, the geography of Israel, north and south. Also, a new mishnah -a new condition - if he doesn't come back by the end of their time, or if he died before the con...

The daf explains how a condition is supposed to be formulated based on a famous example in Tanakh. A new Mishnah continues to discuss conditional getts but this time the condition involves other family members.

A new mishnah: A case where the divorce is conditional on a woman paying a sum of 200 dinar. Plus, other conditions. What happens if they're not fulfilled? Plus, a dispute as to when the conditional divorce kicks in - from the time she receives it or from the time she fulfills the condition? Also, a deep investigation into the text of the mishnah itself and the vocabulary used in the condition. Pl...

A tosefta on conditions that might prevent a get from bring valid - when one is too specific with a condition. (With very precise formulations). Plus, to what degree would uncommon things be included in a condition? Also, a new mishnah on an I'll man who gives his wife a conditional divorce - in the event that he dies, they are divorced - but in the interim, they must refrain from sexual intimacy.

More on the different readings by R. Meir and R. Yosi. When are verbal instructions to a scribe acceptable? The verse seems to imply that the husband's voice is necessary... Plus, a new mishnah: How a husband can formulate a conditional get in the event of his death. How to make it valid?? More, in trying to understand R. Yosi both supports his view and raises questions on it. Plus, a side bar and...

A deaf-mute who can communicate in writing, who wants to appoint one to write a get for his wife - because he can communicate, the court appoints on his behalf. [Note: The skipping and choppiness in Anne's recording is something we've never encountered before, and we didn't realize it was happening. You have our profound apologies.] Plus, mute vs deaf vs deaf-mute. Also, how the scribe(s) writing...

Talmudic ronouncements about what diminishes a person's strength - with verses from Psalms as prooftexts. Plus, what not to do while standing. Plus, an assortment of things that will bring a person to death, if done in a particular order. Also, the case of the person who has some kind of temporary insanity and the implications for a get that is commissioned by him.

Talmudic medical remedies, which may or may not work (we don't know). Certainly, there was some scientific method, while others seem much farther flung. For example, writing Levi backwards, as compared to curing bleeding from the mouth, depending on whether it sticks to a straw, and therefore is understood to have an ailment of the lung or alternatively of the liver. Note also that the gemara supp...

A story with R. Sheshet - in his visit to the exilarch, where he has concerns about the uprightness of the servants, who were not careful with kashrut (in particular, eating a limb from a live animal). With sends them into a fairly graphic show-and-tell, whereby R. Sheshet makes his point, the exilarch accepts it, and the servants try to harm him in return. But he triumphs each time. Also, a deep...

How does R. Yehudah HaNasi side with R. Yosi against R. Meir and Hanina Ish Ono? Rabbi Yehudah HaNasi defends himself, and that leads into a characterization of each of the Tannaim. Plus, a new focus on R. Shimon, and his connection to R. Akiva. Also, in the end, a verbal direction for a shaliach to write a get does work, but should not be done (with explanation why not). Plus, the first mishnah o...

A series of mishnayot. 1. At first, when someone was to be taken out to be executed, they'd write a get on his behalf, even if he was abbreviated in his instructions. And that was extended to others. Plus, a story about Geneiva - another appearance in Gittin! Also, pre-death gifts in the context of gittin. 2. Concern about shedim, demons, who might trick one into giving a get. 3. A healthy person...

Two mishnayot! But first, a quick note on the tearing of the get document. Plus, how minors can acquire property... with 3 stages of development. Also, a new mishnah, with several cases - including the important detail that a minor cannot designate a shaliach, and R. Elazar's point that a woman (then) could be divorced against her will. Also, another mishnah with implications regarding eating from...

Two mishnayot: 1. A woman who appoints a shaliach to accept her get for her needs two sets of witnesses to ensure the divorce goes through. Likewise, when are the main parties in a transaction believed over a third (objective) party, and when the reverse? 2. The case of the na'arah hame'orsah - a minor girl who is betrothed and needs a get to be free of the betrothed. Her father needs to accept th...

When a woman tells a shaliach to go get her get, and he goes the husband, tells him, and the husband hands it over "as she said," but R. Nachman maintains that she's still not divorced. The Gemara then discusses why he says this, and also where his analysis may go wrong (and she would be divorced). Where the wording and process are essential. Also, may a woman appoint a shaliach to accept a get? I...