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Bava Batra 144: Forced Service to Rome 16.11.2024 17:47
If one leaves heirs some of whom are minors and some of whom are of age - with various stipulations - what is the halakhah? Plus, if one married a child off in a "wedding house" - the son acquires the house, at least under the right conditions. Also, if one writes his estate over to his wife, she is then an administrator of the estate - with other halakhot which are each established according to t...
Bava Batra 143: The Donkey and the Five Women 15.11.2024 14:39
When one doesn't respond to a stipulation of inheritance that would go to a person and a donkey... To understand this case, a somewhat parallel case is introduced of five women, two of whom were sisters, who were to be betrothed with a basket of figs - and those two sisters cannot be betrothed in this way, because, as sisters, they cannot be betrothed to the same person. But are the other three be...
Bava Batra 142: The Fetus Does Not Inherit 14.11.2024 16:22
More on the powers of acquisition (or lack thereof) of a fetus. What is the timing of a person trying to bequeath property to a fetus, when that person than dies? And most importantly, what changes once the baby is born and is only one day old? Also, given the conclusion that a fetus cannot inherit, the Gemara's focus shifts to the nature of the dispute and the hierarchy of the sages responding (i...
Bava Batra 141: It's Surely Worse to Be a Woman, But Go Support Your Daughters 13.11.2024 18:54
When a man commits to giving an unborn child a set amount of money - regardless of the gender of the child, which apparently makes a difference in terms of the amount given - what is the halakhah? If a girl is supposed to get double the amount than the son, is she more valued than he would be? But the Gemara indicates that one who fathers only daughters is not in God's good graces. At the end of t...
Bava Batra 140: Those Poor Disadvantaged Males 12.11.2024 15:50
A new chapter! Chapter 9 -- with a mishnah from the previous daf (as the beginning of the chapter) and a second mishnah on this daf as well. Firstly, the case of a man who dies and leaves both sons and daughters -- depending on the size of the estate, either the sons or the daughters take priority in terms of getting that inheritance. [Who's Who: Admon]. Secondly, the case of a man dies and leaves...
Bava Batra 139: The Strength of an Undocumented Loan 11.11.2024 16:08
A new mishnah (from the bottom of 138): A father who gives his land to his son, while retaining the rights to the produce for himself, until after his own death. Plus, once the produce is detached from the ground, it is the father's, while I still attached, it's "part of the land," and owned by the son who owns the land. Note that funds that are held for minors cannot be used to provide for the ad...
Bava Batra 138: More Deathbed Utterances 10.11.2024 14:39
More on deathbed requests, as presented in a series of beraitot. How much attention must be given to the wording of such requests? What happens when debt factors in to those gifts from the deathbed? Also, when one on his deathbed claims someone owes him money -- the statement alone is not proof of the debt.
Bava Batra 137: A Woman and Her Date Palm 09.11.2024 12:38
If one person gives another person an etrog, and that the recipient should pass it along to another person after his own death, then there's a dispute between Rabbi Yehudah HaNasi and Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel as to the degree of ownership by that first recipient. He has to pass it on, so he can't use it in all ways, like an outright owner. Can he sell it, for example? Also, a story about a woman...
Bava Batra 136: What Can an Heir Do with an Early Bequest? 08.11.2024 13:29
A new mishnah! On how a healthy person can transfer property to others -- to go into effect after that person's death: the phrasing of "from now until after death." But what happens to that property during the lifetime? Neither father nor son can sell those properties during the father's lifetime. And if the son did sell, the buyer does not have the right until father's death. But does the father...
Bava Batra 135: Ineffectual Deathbed Documents 07.11.2024 15:01
When a man is dying, they ask him in a roundabout way whether his wife will be subject to yibum. When he says she could marry a kohen gadol means she doesn't have any need for yibum. But what about when a man comes to divorce his wife, he is considered reliable with regard to his wife's status - sometimes! Sometimes, he is explicitly "not believed" with regard to his wife's status. Which leads to...
Bava Batra 134: The Greatness of Hillel the Elder's Students 06.11.2024 15:11
A practical example, of one who found his children to be lacking and gave all of his property to Yonatan ben Uziel instead of to his official heirs. The sage gave a portion of that gift back to the children, which opened a tussle with Shammai, over the standing of the benefactor's wishes. Also, the 80 students of Hillel the Elder, and their greatness, including the least of them being R. Yochanan...
Bava Batra 133: Giving Gifts Instead of Inheritance: What Does It Really Mean and How Bad Is it? 05.11.2024 19:01
More on Rabbi Yehudah ben Berkoka's position, with the property being established as an inheritance vs. as a gift. But what is the real difference? Why would it be preferable to inherit, as compared to receive a gift? For starters, the heirs need to support the widow of the benefactor, which is not the case for the recipients of gifts. Also, a new mishnah! What happens when a person really does gi...
Bava Batra 132: A Woman Receives Property, Apparently with Limits 04.11.2024 14:05
A case where a husband gives his wife the entirety of his property as a gift, not an inheritance, where her ketubah is fundamentally folded into the sum total of his property, as it were. Then a creditor comes along to collect from her. What is she to do? [Who's Who: Rabbi Yehudah Nachtom (the Baker)] Rabbi Yehudah Nachtom has a story that illustrates exactly the question of whether the wife shoul...
Bava Batra 131: Appointing an Administrator for One's Estate 03.11.2024 18:32
What happens when a healthy person wants to allocate his property as gifts? In contrast to the cases we've seen to this point, which have been deathbed utterances. Also, what happens when there's an administrator (apotropa) appointed over the estate. Note that the case doesn't spell out the relationship between all parties. Plus, how does the appointment of an administrator function in the context...
Bava Batra 130: You Can Only Judge the Case before You 02.11.2024 19:14
More on stipulations of inheritance vs. those of gift-giving. What if the stipulation is about someone who is suitable to be inheriting in any case? Also, a deep dive into the ways of determining what the given halakhah is. Plus, a few words of appreciation in memory of Rabbi Raymond Harari z"l.
Bava Batra 129: Gifting Inheritance 01.11.2024 12:45
How to handle inheritance - with oral designation as a gift, and not as "inheritance." Including the question of when one must stipulate that a gift is indeed a gift in the statement of establishing a gift (beginning, middle, or end of the giving). Also, a dispute among 3 Amoraim -- when or whether giving a gift in place of "inheritance" would be effective. Plus, how that kind of gift can be reapp...
Bava Batra 128: Rabbi Abba's 7 Inquiries 31.10.2024 13:41
This daf presents 7 queries about some quirky cases that were sent by Rabbi Abba to Rav Yosef Bar Chama [Who's Who: Rav Yosef bar Chama and also Rabbi Abba, in which the halakhah is decided in accord with Rabbi Abba, in the end of it all. Cases include both details about inheritance as well as other legal issues pertaining to one's standing.
Bava Batra 127: When Is a Male Not Male? When Is a First-born Not First-Born? 30.10.2024 16:37
How the laws pertaining to a "Tumtum" affect his ability to inherit the double portion. This status has all kinds of implications to other areas of halakhah that pertain to males -- including the timing of brit milah, including the impurity that attaches to a mother after giving birth. Also, a question was sent to Shmuel: When a person has knowledge that he is the first-born, and his father says t...
Bava Batra 126: Double Portion Tension 29.10.2024 15:49
More on the double portion inherited by the first-born. What happens if the first-born renounces the extra part of his double portion, so that he ends up with a comparable inheritance to other brothers? Rav Pappa and Rav Pappi (yes) both weigh in, based on inference. Plus, an actual case that came before Rava adjudication. Also, a new mishnah! Namely, if the father attempts to decree a different k...
Bava Batra 125: The Case of the Great-Grandmother 28.10.2024 14:37
Different views from the sages in Nehardea, in the land of Israel, and elsewhere - with the dispute over whether the payment of a debtor returning the loan of a parent who has died is divided into a double portion for the eldest son. The crux of the matter seems to be whether the payment is in land or in cash - but that distinction is probed and found to be difficult. Also, when there's a great-gr...
Bava Batra 124: When the First-born Does Not Get a Double Portion 27.10.2024 9:23
A beraita (Tosefta) presents the idea of enhancement to the property that takes place after the death of the father - for which the first-born does not get the double-portion. But that's a point that needs refinement. It may depend who made those improvements. Plus, the question of who pays the father's debt - that is, as a double portion, or not? Also, more on the first-born not taking a double-p...
Bava Batra 123: The Double Portion 26.10.2024 20:26
On the double-portion for the first-born. And the various ways that can play out. Plus, going back to the biblical treatment of the double portions. Also, a good deal of commentary on the story of Jacob, Leah, and Rachel. And also the story of the 70 persons of Jacob's family who went down to to Egypt, and the concern that counting out the family members totals 69. How to find the 70th?
Bava Batra 122: Dividing the Land 25.10.2024 19:27
How DID the divide the land of Israel in the time of Joshua? Was it divided according to tribe? Or per capita? (We recommend googling for a map) Also, a new mishnah! On how a son and a daughter both inherit according to the laws of inheritance, and the differences between the way they inherit, including from each parent. But the mishnah is formulated in a difficult way, and the Amoraim work hard t...
Bava Batra 121: Tu B'Av: The Maidens and More 24.10.2024 21:45
A side-step away from the laws of inheritance, to address the nature of the 15th of Av and also Yom Kippur. Which of course leads back to the daughters of Tzlofchad and the matter of marrying only within their own tribe. Plus, events that are attributed to taking place on Tu B'Av -- and a review of the story of Beitar. Also, 7 people whose lives overlapped and thereby cover the entirety of Jewish...
Bava Batra 120: A Miracle for Yocheved 23.10.2024 11:35
Starting with some aggadah - a miracle that was done for the daughters of Tzlofchad that parallels the miracle done for Yocheved: bearing children "older," but really older. And the Gemara does the math for us -- and explains the miracle of her returned youth in detail. Also, shifting focus back to the daughters of Tzlofchad and the order of their names in the Torah -- once for their age order and...
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