Women in the Law UK
Talking Law with Dr Sally Penni MBE
Presented by multi-award winning barrister Sally Penni, Talking Law profiles leading figures in UK law as they discuss the highs and lows of their career plus the challenges and realities of the legal profession. From Women in the Law UK www.womeninthelawuk.com
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Apr 11, 2026
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Episodes
Shelley McGivern 22.09.2022 30:21
This week Sally Penni MBE is Talking Law with Shelley McGivern , partner in the Corporate team at Addleshaw Goddard and co-head of the Firm's SciTech sector. Shelley has a wealth of experience advising both corporate and institutional clients across a number of sectors with a particular focus on acquisitions and disposals and joint ventures in the real estate sector. Shelley talks about ‘flex...
Alice Stephenson 08.09.2022 37:37
This week Sally Penni MBE is Talking Law with Alice Stephenson , Founder & CEO of Stephenson Law . Hear how Alice struggled with progression in the law whilst being a young Mum, and became so disillusioned with the profession that she even decided to quit. Inspired by her entrepreneur husband, she then started her own law firm to see if she could carve her own path within the industry. Alice...
Jo Sidhu 05.09.2022 1:16:49
This week Sally Penni MBE is Talking Law with Jo Sidhu , a criminal barrister who is widely regarded as one of the leading criminal trial lawyers in the UK and has appeared in some of England’s most serious prosecutions. Jo served as the Chair of the Criminal Bar Association in 2021-22. Jo explains what motivated him to become a criminal barrister, and tries to explain why many in the profession a...
Ayo Onatade 01.09.2022 30:14
This week Sally Penni MBE is Talking Law with Ayo Onatade who is a personal assistant to judges based at the Supreme Court. Ayo describes her many roles and responsibilities, and details what it’s like to work at the highest court in the United Kingdom. Ayo is also a freelance commentator on crime fiction, writing articles and featuring on panels about the genre. Ayo explains how she found her lov...
Iain Simkin 22.07.2022 48:30
This week Sally Penni MBE is Talking Law with Iain Simkin . Iain Simkin is renowned for his expertise across the range of regulatory cases and he also specialises in serious crime. Iain recalls the extreme determination it took to begin his career and reflects on some of the most memorable cases of his career, including his work as prosecuting counsel in the case of Reynhard Sinaga, and the diffic...
Dinah Rose 15.07.2022 52:33
This week Sally Penni MBE is Talking Law with Dinah Rose KC, who is a barrister and member of Blackstone Chambers. Dinah was also appointed President of Magdalen College, Oxford in September 2020. She is the 43rd President of the College since its foundation in 1458, and the first woman to hold the post. Dinah describes how she juggled her career at the bar around raising two children. She also re...
Margaret Casely-Hayford 08.07.2022 47:21
This week Sally Penni MBE is Talking Law with Margaret Casely-Hayford . Margaret was awarded a CBE in the Queen’s Honours list in 2018, for services to charity and for promoting diversity upon ending her term as trustee and Chair of international development Charity ActionAid UK. She was Director of Legal Services and Company Secretary for the John Lewis Partnership for nine years. Before that she...
Banke Odunaike 01.07.2022 1:06:59
Welcome to a brand new season of Talking Law with Sally Penni MBE! This week Sally Penni MBE is Talking Law with Banke A. Odunaike , Head of Legal in EMEA at CBRE . CBRE is a real estate firm that offers a range of services to help companies with all their property needs. With over 100k employees across 100 different countries, they are the largest company of their kind in the world. Banke shares...
Alison Fagan 20.04.2022 41:21
This week Sally Penni MBE is Talking Law with Alison Fagan . Ali is a Construction Disputes Partner and the Head of the Infrastructure Funds Sector Group at DLA Piper UK LLP. Ali provides risk management advice on distressed, high value or strategically critical infrastructure projects for a wide ranging pool of clients, from private sector partners to delivery contractors. Alison talks about he...
Leroy Logan 13.04.2022 47:51
In this episode, Sally Penni MBE is Talking Law with Leroy Logan . Leroy was a highly-decorated Superintendent with the Metropolitan Police – a career that culminated with his work on the Olympic Security Team overseeing the London 2012 games. He was a member of the Black Police Association for over 30 years and was 1st National Chair 1998-99 and London Chair 2000-04, as well as being a founder me...
Daniel Winterfeldt 06.04.2022 40:27
This week Sally Penni MBE is Talking Law with Daniel Winterfeldt . Daniel is a Managing Director and the General Counsel for EMEA and Asia at Jefferies. He is a senior corporate and securities lawyer with over 22 years of experience in London and New York. Daniel reveals what it was like arriving in London as an openly gay man at a time when sexuality was not discussed, and how his experiences led...
John Croft 01.12.2021 54:00
This week Sally Penni MBE is Talking Law with John Croft . John is president and Co-Founder at Elevate, a legal services company which provides legal expertise to clients all over the world. In today’s episode hear how John champions diversity and inclusion at Elevate as well as how he manages work-life balance, particularly amongst colleagues who are working across multiple time zones. This epis...
Paul McFarlane 22.09.2021 54:42
This week Sally Penni MBE is Talking Law with Paul McFarlane . Paul is a partner at Capsticks and manages a team of lawyers providing the full range of employment law advice to health, police and emergency services clients. In this episode Paul reveals why he was always fascinated by employment law and shares his motivations for being a Board Director for the Black Solicitors Network. He also dis...
Sandie Okoro 06.09.2021 1:01:31
This week Sally Penni MBE is Talking Law with Sandie Okoro . Sandie was born and raised in London, but currently lives and works in Washington DC. She qualified both as a barrister and a solicitor and is currently the senior vice president and general counsel at the World Bank Group. Among her many awards and accolades she has received a Lifetime Achievement Award from the Black Solicitors Networ...
Martin Shaw 25.08.2021 50:59
This week Sally Penni MBE is Talking Law with Martin Shaw. Martin is an English actor famous for many roles, including that of Judge John Deed in the BBC legal drama. Martin talks passionately about his role and why he’s so proud to be a patron of the Kalisher Trust, an organisation which works to inspire and inform the next generation of legal professionals through advocacy training, internships...
Max Hardy 04.08.2021 21:18
This week Sally Penni MBE is Talking Law with Max Hardy . Max is a barrister practicing from 9 Bedford Row. Called in 2004, Max has worked on everything from murder trials at the Old Bailey to speeding cases at Romford Magistrates' Court! Max reveals his motivation for joining the Bar Council and The Kalisher Trust, which works to inspire advocacy and help people from diverse backgrounds to...
Donna Scully 28.07.2021 48:25
This week Sally Penni MBE is Talking Law with Donna Scully . Donna is an exceptionally experienced lawyer having won several awards and has been active in shaping both legislation and best-practice across the personal injury and insurance sectors for nearly 25 years. Donna talks about her unusual route into the law, and why gender diversity has been so crucial to the success of their business. Pre...
Bernard Richmond KC 21.07.2021 36:53
This week Sally Penni MBE is Talking Law with Bernard Richmond KC . Called in 1988, Bernard is now head of Chambers at Lamb Building and is an active member of Middle Temple where he has been a bencher since 2005. He has also been Honorary Professor of Law at University of Kent since 2020. Bernard discusses some of the most memorable cases he’s worked on, including the high profile case of Baby P....
Joeli Brearley 08.07.2021 44:48
This week Sally Penni MBE is Talking Law with Joeli Brearley . Joeli is the Founder and CEO of Pregnant Then Screwed , a campaigning charity that strives to improve equality, fairness and representation for pregnant women and mothers. In this episode Joeli reveals her own experience of pregnancy discrimination prior to starting the organisation, and discusses the impact of the pandemic on women an...
Jason Pitter KC 10.06.2021 56:05
This week Sally Penni MBE is Talking Law with Jason Pitter KC . Called to the bar in 1994, Jason took Silk in 2014 and is a member of New Park Court in Leeds, where he practices with a focus on serious and complex criminal litigation, professional misconduct and regulatory law. He is also a Bencher of Gray’s Inn and a Crown Court Recorder. Jason discusses his upbringing and how that inspired his c...
Chris Kehoe 27.05.2021 38:31
This week Sally Penni MBE is Talking Law with Chris Kehoe . Chris Kehoe is an in-house lawyer with a police force by day and an award winning stand-up comedian by night. He is unashamedly Northern and working class. Chris shares some insights into what it’s like day-to-day working on the legal team for a police force, and talks about his podcast Mondeo Law which aims to de-mystify the law. Present...
Jolyon Maugham KC 09.05.2021 38:08
This week Sally Penni MBE is Talking Law with KC Jolyon Maugham . Jolyon is an Honorary Professor at Durham Law School as well as founder of the Good Law Project, which brought a number of legal challenges to the Brexit process to court. In this episode Jolyon shares highlights from his hugely varied career, as well as how the Good Law Project came about and some of its successes so far. Present...
David Lammy 28.04.2021 33:59
In this episode of Talking Law Sally Penni MBE interviews MP and Door Tenant at Doughty Street Chambers, David Lammy. David trained at Harvard Law School and has worked as a lawyer and a barrister. He reflects on his career in law and reveals why he ultimately made the switch into politics. He also shares his take on the Black Lives Matter movement and the ramifications of the death of George Floy...
Maxine Peake 21.04.2021 1:15:08
In this episode of Talking Law Sally Penni is interviewing actor Maxine Peake, famous for many roles including that of Martha Costello in BBC drama ‘Silk’. Maxine looks back over her career, including highlights such as working with Victoria Wood on sitcom Dinnerladies, as well as how she prepared for roles in legal procedural dramas. She also shares why she believes actors and lawyers have much i...
Tamara Box 29.03.2021 38:12
In this episode of Talking Law, Sally Penni is joined multi-award-winning business lawyer and Managing Partner Tamara Box. An American citizen, Tamara is dual-qualified to practice law in both the US and the UK and is an internationally recognised expert in strategic financial advice, management and team building. Tamara recalls how her career has seen her travel all over the world, and shares her...
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