River Valley Network
Talking Church
Talking Church is a podcast hosted by River Valley Network that discusses trends in the church and culture. In each episode, you will learn from ministry leaders on a variety of subjects, develop your leadership skills and break new growth barriers!
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Jul 7, 2026
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Episodes
How I Found Freedom From Anxiety and Depression 29.07.2025 16:53
In this powerful episode, Logan sits down with his mom, Becca Ketterling, for a deeply personal and uplifting conversation about her journey through anxiety and depression. The conversation dives into personal moments of struggle, the importance of breaking silence, and how God’s promises can bring true peace and healing. This episode is a compassionate reminder to pastors, leaders, and anyone str...
Don't Be Ashamed of Church - Nathan Finochio 22.07.2025 45:56
What if the Church isn’t supposed to be slick, polished, or perfect—but deeply present, raw, and real? In this episode, Nathan Finochio shares hilarious stories, heartfelt reflections, and a powerful challenge to Millennials and Gen Z: let’s get back to the why behind gathering. It’s not about cool lights or catchy phrases—it’s about real encounters with God. If you’ve ever felt disillusioned with...
Why Most Churches Miss 20% of Their Community 15.07.2025 47:38
Logan sits down with Joe Butler, founder of Ability Tree, to discuss the heart and mission of disability ministry. Joe shares his powerful personal journey as a parent to a child with multiple disabilities and how it shaped his calling to make Jesus accessible to all. They dive into the challenges families face when attending church and offer practical steps churches can take to foster true inclus...
Being a Proud Charismatic - Nathan Finochio 08.07.2025 37:02
In this episode, Nathan Finochio gets real about the messy beauty of charismatic church life, the ups and downs of being creative, and why Gen Z might just be the new rebels—by going old school. He brings hilarious stories, honest moments, and plenty of wisdom that’ll leave you both thinking and smiling. Whether you’re leading in ministry, chasing a creative dream, or just trying to find where you...
Builders, Keepers, Multipliers 01.07.2025 42:12
In this inspiring and practical message, Pastor Rob Ketterling shares the unbelievable story of how River Valley bought their City Campus—highlighting God’s provision and bold faith. He unpacks what it means to be a Builder, Keeper, or Multiplier in ministry, offering real talk, humor, and leadership wisdom for every stage of church growth. Whether you’re just starting out or leading at a high lev...
Becoming Confident as a Leader 24.06.2025 47:34
In this compelling and transparent conversation, Pastor Julian Lowe shares his deeply personal journey of unexpected calling, spiritual crisis, and rediscovered purpose. Set against the backdrop of taking over Oasis Church just months before the COVID-19 pandemic, Julian opens up to Logan about leadership, identity, and what it really means to live for “forever glory” over momentary success.
My wife joins the podcast! Our Story of Ministry Pressure, Infertility, & God's Goodness. 10.06.2025 1:04:34
In this powerful and deeply personal episode, Logan finally sits down with his wife Mac to share their journey through marriage, ministry, and some of life’s most painful challenges. They share how they met, what it was like stepping into ministry life, and open up about their struggles with infertility, multiple miscarriages, and Mac’s long search for answers about her health. Through vulnerabili...
The Ultimate Guide to Church Finances - Steve Chaney 27.05.2025 1:15:21
Ever wonder if your church is making hidden financial mistakes? In this episode, Pastor Logan sits down with CFO Steve Chaney, who has helped over 1,100 churches overcome financial pitfalls. They unpack the biggest mistakes churches unknowingly make—from outdated systems draining ministry time, to payroll confusion and budgeting challenges. Whether you're a pastor, leader, or just passionate about...
Becoming Confident in Delegation | Rob Ketterling 13.05.2025 44:17
In this episode Logan is joined by Pastor Rob to unpack the mindset shifts every pastor and church leader needs to embrace healthy, effective delegation. From letting go of guilt to stewarding critical leadership moments, you'll gain practical insight into leading without burning out. Learn how to empower others while focusing on the 5% of your role that only you can do.
Gabe Finochio & Jon Rush | The Dangers of People Pleasing 29.04.2025 1:47:31
Logan is joined by Gabriel Finochio and Jon Rush to discuss the tension between truth and likability in Christian leadership, exploring how boldness in speaking truth often clashes with the desire to be accepted. They candidly discuss topics like the baptism of the Holy Spirit, cultural compromise in the church, and how modern Christians engage with theology—online and in-person. Through personal...
Dr. Allen Tennison & Martha Tennison | Preparing for The Worst Day of Your Life 15.04.2025 1:01:24
Dr. Allen Tennison and Reverend Martha Tennison join Logan to recount a heartbreaking chapter in their church's history. In 1988, a devastating bus accident claimed 27 lives—24 of them were youth group students. Reverend Martha reflects on how she and her late husband, Don, navigated the unimaginable loss with unwavering strength, wisdom, and compassion. Dr. Allen shares his personal perspective a...
Best Marriage Advice from Henry & Alex Seeley @ Belonging Co. 01.04.2025 53:31
We hit the road in Nashville this week! Join us in this insightful episode as Pastors Henry and Alex Seeley candidly share the ups, downs, and their favorite moments from nearly three decades of marriage and ministry together. They reveal key insights every couple—whether in ministry or not—can learn from. If you're looking to deepen your relationships and lead with purpose, this podcast is one yo...
10 Reasons Why People Resist Change | Keith Peterson 18.03.2025 57:14
Change is a constant in ministry, but it’s not always easy to lead. Keith Peterson joins Logan to explore why people in your congregation and leadership teams resist change—from the fear of losing control and facing uncertainty to concerns about competence and the weight of past experiences. With practical insights and faith-centered perspectives, this podcast equips church leaders to navigate the...
The Most Significant Discovery Since the Dead Sea Scrolls 04.03.2025 40:10
The Megiddo Mosaic, discovered in an Israeli prison, is the oldest known Christian church floor, dating back 1,800 years. Built during a time of persecution, it boldly proclaims "Jesus is Lord" instead of "Caesar is Lord." In Washington, D.C., Logan spoke with Dr. Bobby Duke from the Museum of the Bible about its history, the logistics of its transport, and its significance as the most important C...
Better Storytelling, Book Writing Hacks, and Humble Success 18.02.2025 39:00
In this episode of Talking Church, we sit down with Mark Batterson, one of the most influential pastors and bestselling authors in the world. From writing books that have impacted millions to leading with vision and faith, Mark shares his insights on storytelling, discipline, and the power of humility in leadership.
Secrets To Avoid Ministry Burnout | Dr. Don Lichi 04.02.2025 49:59
In this episode of Talking Church, Logan sits down with Dr. Don Lichi, a licensed psychologist and ministry leader, to tackle one of the biggest threats facing pastors and ministry leaders today. Together they explore practical steps to protect your heart, strengthen your faith, and build healthy rhythms that sustain long-term ministry.
An Honest Podcast Update 28.01.2025 3:54
Pastor Logan shares an honest podcast update about the future of Talking Church.
Meet One of My Heroes: Bob Hoskins 21.01.2025 1:17:00
Bob Hoskins, a legendary figure in global ministry, has spent over 80 years advancing the gospel with bold faith and unwavering commitment. Known for spearheading innovative projects like the Bible App for Kids, the most downloaded children’s app globally, his work exemplifies a passion for measurable impact and meaningful ministry. With a fearless heart and a spirit-led approach, Bob continues to...
Grammy Winning Producer’s Advice to Christian Musicians 14.01.2025 43:30
Episode 155: In this episode, we are joined by legendary music producer Jerry Wonda. From his upbringing in Haiti to working with iconic artists like Shakira, Whitney Houston, and Justin Bieber, Jerry shares how faith, creativity, and perseverance shaped his path. He shares how his church upbringing influenced his music and his unique approach to producing, and his advice for combining passion wit...
10 Things That Great Leaders Do 07.01.2025 45:30
Episode 154: In this episode, Logan is joined by Pastor Rob Ketterling as they dive into the top 10 habits and practices that set great leaders apart. No matter where you're leading, these principles can impact the way you inspire and guide others. Listen as they dissect how these traits align with Biblical wisdom and explore what they mean for those called to lead with purpose and integrity.
The Best Moments of 2024 31.12.2024 18:06
Episode 153: Join Logan as he recaps some of the best moments on Talking Church in 2024! We are so grateful you are one of our listeners, and cannot wait for all that's ahead in 2025.
A Prayer for Your Christmas & New Year 24.12.2024 2:33
As we close out the year, I wanted to say a prayer for you, your church an your family as you work hard to minster through the final stretch of the year. Merry Christmas & Happy New Year from Logan and the Talking Church team!
Why I Became a Pastor: Early Stories from Pastor Rob Ketterling 17.12.2024 40:30
Episode 152: Pastor Rob joins Pastor Logan this week to share pivotal moments from his early life that shaped his ministry and worldview. From transformative mission trips to Brazil and India, to navigating personal revelations and college experiences, Pastor Rob takes us on a journey of faith, growth, and adventure. He reflects on the impact of early mentorship, cross-cultural ministry, and a com...
5 Must Have Meetings to Plan a Big Event 12.12.2024 52:38
Episode 151: In this episode, Pastor Logan is joined by River Valley Church’s Annie Judd (Art Director) and Maddie Bennett (Event Project Management), to discuss essential meetings for effective event planning. They emphasize the importance of collaboration, creativity, and clear communication among team members. They cover several topics, which include the significance of vision meetings, brainst...
Lessons From the Biggest Church You've Never Heard Of 03.12.2024 36:27
Ep 150: In this weeks episode of Talking Church, Pastor Logan is joined by Pastor Greg Reade and Pastor Dave Simiele, leaders at Christ Fellowship Church, to discuss their experiences and insights on church growth, the importance of humility and integrity in leadership, and the challenges of managing a multi-campus church. One of the biggest churches in America with over 25,000 in attendance, they...
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