Middle East Institute
Taking the Edge Off the Middle East with Brian Katulis
MEI's Senior Fellow for US Foreign Policy Brian Katulis sits down with a cast of friends, colleagues, and fellow MENA policy professionals for casual conversations on the most important happenings in the Middle East today.
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Mar 17, 2026
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Toni Verstandig on What We've Learned—and Forgotten—About Peace 22.04.2025 53:15
In this episode of Taking the Edge off the Middle East , Brian Katulis sits down with Toni Verstandig, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs and current board member at the Middle East Institute. Three months into the second Trump administration, they assess how the White House is reshaping US policy in the Middle East—what's changed, what's stayed the same, and what...
Frank Lowenstein on the Highs and Lows of Peacemaking in the Middle East 09.04.2025 51:33
In this episode of 'Taking the Edge off the Middle East,' Brian Katulis sits down with Frank Lowenstein, a key advisor to Secretary John Kerry during the Obama administration. Lowenstein takes us behind the curtain of the Obama administration's intense peace negotiations between Israelis and Palestinians, from narrowly escaping a snowstorm in Ramallah to advising Secretary Kerry during critical mo...
Decades in Diplomacy: Ambassador Dan Shapiro on Middle East Policy and Public Service 24.03.2025 1:13:15
In this episode, Brian is joined by former U.S. Ambassador to Israel Dan Shapiro, who recently served as Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for the Middle East. They discuss the Trump administration's early approach to the region in its second term, including its handling of Iran, Gaza, and regional normalization efforts. Drawing on his decades of experience across the NSC, State Department, an...
An Israeli and a Palestinian on War, Policy, and the Path to Peace 04.03.2025 1:15:26
Ibrahim Dalalsha, founder and director of Horizon Center for Political Studies and Media Outreach, and Shira Efron, research director at the Israel Policy Forum, join host Brian Katulis to discuss policy developments in the devastating war between Israel and Hamas, and how Israelis and Palestinians can work together toward a peaceful resolution of conflict.
Ambassador Barbara Leaf on Black Swan Events and America's Role in the Middle East 06.02.2025 43:15
Barbara A. Leaf is a seasoned diplomat and expert on the Middle East, having served as the US Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs and held key positions in US embassies across the region. In this episode, Barbara joins Brian to discuss the array of "black swan" events currently unfolding in the Middle East, and how the second Trump administration may respond to these challenges....
Norman T. Roule 20.12.2024 46:16
Norman T. Roule is a member of MEI's Iran Program Advisory Council. Roule served for 34-years in the Central Intelligence Agency, where his service included roles as Division Chief and Chief of Station at the CIA's Directorate of Operations. He joins Brian to discuss the state of an ideologically contested Middle East, as well as the opportunities and challenges following the fall of the Assad reg...
Steven A. Cook 13.11.2024 43:29
Steven A. Cook, Senior Fellow for Middle East and Africa Studies at the Council on Foreign Relations, sits down with Brian to discuss his latest book "The End of Ambition," their policy outlook with the incoming Trump Administration, and deteriorating discourse in Washington policy circles.
Danielle Pletka 30.10.2024 37:48
Danielle Pletka, Distinguished Senior Fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, sits down with Brian to discuss how she made the jump from journalism to policy, her views on the Iraq War, and the need for strong leadership in US-MENA foreign policy.
Ben Samuels 22.08.2023 46:51
Ben Samuels, US correspondent for Haaretz, sits down with Brian to discuss how he got into journalism, the state of politics in Israel, and the country's ongoing judicial overhaul.
Richard A. Clarke 12.06.2023 49:10
After a decade of leadership, Richard A. Clarke recently retired as chairman of the Board of Governors of the Middle East Institute. He chats with Brian about what originally got him into public service, his 30 years working in U.S. government national security agencies (including the Pentagon, the State Department, and the White House National Security Council), and his recent move into writing f...
David Schenker 01.06.2023 48:46
David Schenker - Director of the Program on Arab Politics at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy - sits down with Brian to discuss the beginnings of his career, his time in the Trump Administration, and the pros and cons of US-MENA policy.
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