Paul Hudson and Mikaela Caron

Swift over Coffee

Swift over Coffee is a podcast that helps you keep your Swift skills up to date the easy way, hosted by Paul Hudson and Mikaela Caron. In each episode we chat about the latest developments in the Swift community, and also host an open ballot where you can share your views on important topics. Follow us on Twitter at @swiftovercoffee. Note: all the discussion from Mikaela and Paul is licensed under CC BY-SA 3.0. Our regular intro/outro music is also licensed under CC BY-SA 3.0, and is called "Dropping out of School" by Brad Sucks.

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Paul Hudson and Mikaela Caron

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Technology

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Latest episode

Jun 25, 2025

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Episodes

S4E9: Apple Does Sometimes Solve Problems (WWDC25 special) 25.06.2025

Mikaela and Paul are – or at least were – live at WWDC25! And dub-dub dominates the chat – what was announced, why it matters, what the concerns are, and what new features developers are excited to get their hands on. Recorded in front of a live audience! If you were there, have fun remembering what fluffs have been cut out in the edit. If you weren’ t: this is exactly how it went down in the room...

S4E8: Mikaela doesn’t respect Paul 04.06.2025

With WWDC25 looming, Paul and Mikaela are as excited as everyone to discover the new features and tools we can use to make amazing new things… but let’s not get too distracted by the new shiny things. In this episode, as well as covering off the news, there’s hard-won advice for new Swift developers, and loads of different takes on how to (and whether to!) monetise your apps. Plus, is that… is tha...

S4E7: Progress over perfection 15.05.2025

To celebrate Global Accessibility Awareness Day, Mikaela and Paul recorded a special episode live at ARCtic Conference in Oulu, Finland, with a distinguished panel of accessibility champions: Rob Whitaker, Daniel Devesa Derksen-Staats and Klemens Strasse. If accessibility seems like an overwhelming subject, don’t panic; we show you not just why but also give you tips on how to get started with ens...

S4E6: The Fruitful Trombone of Great Sadness 28.04.2025

Paul and Mikaela come to you live (-ish) from try! Swift Tokyo, where the air is filled with both cherry blossom and excitement about WWDC 2025! We’ve got advice for attending in-person events (and why we think you should), our first reactions to Swift 6.1 and Swiftly 1.0, plus, the long-running saga of whether Mikaela’s app Fruitful — which would be perfect for something like WWDC, Mikaela, just...

S4E5: Could you just…? 23.03.2025

‘Networking’ is a word to strike fear into the heart of any developer, and upsettingly we’re dealing with both types this episodes: talking to other humans at conferences, but mostly trying to coax computers to talk to each other too. Plus, our Open Ballot this episode is the trifling little matter of the major changes you’re hoping to see in Xcode, SwiftUI, SwiftData and more as WWDC25 rolls arou...

S4E4: Naming is hard 20.02.2025

Apparently, the secret to a great coding presentation is three Es. You’ll just have to listen to discover if this means Paul is advocating for consuming Class A drugs to get hyped or if they just, like, stand for something inspiring or something. Developers, developers, developers… Plus, as well as your traditional rundown of the news and upcoming conferences, this episode has excellent advice fro...

S4E3: The existence of Mikaela 04.02.2025

In this episode, we learn that the app that paid for Paul’s house hasn’t even been updated for iPhone X 😶‍🌫️ and Mikaela learns about some useful tools to help with the launch of the app that she absolutely, definitely, 100% is gonna debut in February. 😅 (Pretty sure she meant of 2025, but Paul neglected to press her on this point.) Plus, time is running out for EU trader status compliance (and...

S4E2: Mikaela is a lesson 29.11.2024

Mikaela is joined by the most English-sounding Irishman you've ever heard for an intensive therapy session. We're talking paper cuts in Swift, those tiny annoyances that, sure, don't stop you in your tracks, but wouldn't it be nice if instead of having to cover ourselves in the coding equivalent of a hundred Band-Aids, Apple just… fixed? Please? Empathise, sympathise, and have a nice little scream...

S4E1: You have to sit down and do it 10.11.2024

We’re back! Many things have happened over that swift summer break, so pour a coffee and let’s jump right back in. In this episode, we’re talking Apple Intelligence and other code-complete co-pilots, the redesign of swift.org, shiny M4 Macs, good UI (and UX) design, and the Swift Foundation’s move to empower the community to fix tiny annoyances — but the big topic, of course, is how your adoption...

S3E16: Swift 6 strict 06.08.2024

In this episode: We discuss Apple's worldwide catch up events for WWDC, discuss how we stay up to date with new Swift features in old projects, and share the APIs and features you're most looking forward to adopting in iOS 18. WWDC Catch up Events: ⁠https://developer.apple.com/events/⁠ Microsoft blames the EU for CloudStrike downtime: ⁠https://mashable.com/article/microsoft-crowdstrike-eu-...

S3E15: Swift turns 10 06.06.2024

In this episode: We discuss Apple's developer academies, share our advice for becoming a fully independent developer, and on Swift's 10th anniversary share your stories of how Swift impacted your lives: Hacking with Swift WWDC24 sale: https://www.hackingwithswift.com/offers Mikaela’s Keyboard: https://zsa.io   New Apple forums: https://forums.developer.apple.com Apple developer academy gra...

S3E14: An archaeological trove of Mikaela 24.05.2024

In this episode: We discuss Apple's newest accessibility features coming in iOS 18, share our tips for working with difficult colleagues and clients, and read your replies to our open ballot: is Swift Evolution working? Apple’s new accessibility features in iOS 18: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2024/05/apple-announces-new-accessibility-features-including-eye-tracking/?1715781602 Deep Dish Swi...

S3E13: Zero warnings is a good start 29.04.2024

In this episode: We talk about the community events taking place alongside WWDC24, discuss what we're hoping to see change in Apple's APIs this year, and share your tips for getting apps ready for iOS 18. One More Thing conference: https://omt-conf.com/ Sponsoring iOS Dev Happy Hour: https://sponsorships.iosdevhappyhour.com Deep Dish Swift: https://deepdishswift.com/ Swift Craft: https://s...

S3E12: SwiftUI just figures it out 15.04.2024

In this episode: We start to get excited about WWDC24, talk about the pros and cons of pair programming, and share your views on how to make apps more accessible. try! Swift Tokyo: https://tryswift.jp/_en Ignite: ⁠http://github.com/twostraws/Ignite⁠   Vision Pro Dev Camp -  ⁠https://visiondevcamp.org⁠   A Beginner’s Guide to Apple Vision Pro, Women Who Code: https://us02web.zoom.us/webinar/registe...

S3E11: Serendipitous learning 10.03.2024

In this episode: We discuss why it's so important to attend conferences and other meetups, share the best moments from your careers, and play an all-new game: guess how many credit cards Mikaela has? - Exploring Mars from the Jet Propulsion Laboratory at NASA: https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/exploring-mars/id6475634958 - Paul's iOS Simulator tip: https://x.com/twostraws/status/17603046174419...

S3E10: That was a ball of pain 12.02.2024

In this episode: Swift 5.10 is here, we share our tips on mentoring and being mentored, and try out your Vision Pro apps. - Apple Vision Pro is here: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2024/02/apple-vision-pro-arrives-in-apple-store-locations-across-the-us/ - Email to Apple developers from Susan Prescott: https://x.com/twostraws/status/1753526820811452729 - Launched podcast with Charlie, Christian, an...

S3E9: Don't call it a headset 25.01.2024

In this episode: Apple's Vision Pro is almost here and we couldn't be more excited, we share our tips for building a great app portfolio, and discuss your answers to the open ballot: where do you find app inspiration? - Vision Pro is available to pre-order: https://www.apple.com/apple-vision-pro - Slopes: https://getslopes.com - Despair, Inc Demotivator: https://despair.com/products/apathy...

S3E8: Step 1 is building a great app 24.12.2023

In this episode: We reveal the best way to use your Apple developer subscription, discuss our experience of using AI to build software, and share your tips on the best ways to approach debugging. Merry Christmas, folks! - Everyone gets 25 hours of free Xcode Cloud: https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=ik9z4ll6 - How to submit a request to Apple's DTS team: https://developer.apple.com/support/t...

S3E7: Scary Fast 22.11.2023

In this episode: We review Hacktoberfest and make plans for our future indie projects, share our thoughts on what makes great app architecture, and read out your tips on what's the most useful skill for a developer to have that isn't coding itself. - Packages on Swift.org: https://www.swift.org/packages/showcase.html - Apple's use of Swift and SwiftUI in iOS 17: https://blog.timac.org/...

S3E6: Don't be scammy 19.10.2023

In this episode: We discuss the value of building a side project you love, chat about Apple's latest Vision Pro sample code, and share your views on our open ballot: should we use Swift everywhere, or learn different languages? - xkcd Ten Thousand: https://xkcd.com/1053/ - Swift Splash: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/visionos/swift-splash - SF Symbols 5: https://developer.apple.com/...

S3E5: The tastiest peach 02.10.2023

In this episode: It's a job interview special, packed with our tips for preparing for interviews so you can really excel, followed by our listeners' tips so you can do the best on the day. - Shared passwords: https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/share-passwords-iphe6b2b7043/ios - iOS Dev Weekly: https://iosdevweekly.com/ - Swift Coding Challenges: https://www.hackingwithswift.com/store/s...

S3E4: They took a side quest 03.09.2023

In this episode: Vision Pro labs, the worst code we've ever written, and we discuss your answers to our open ballot: do developers also need to be designers? Vision Pro labs: https://developer.apple.com/visionos/labs/ List of APIs that require declared reasons: https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=z6fu1dcu Lux apps: https://www.lux.camera/

S3E3: Mikaela over Coffee 25.07.2023

In this episode: we discuss the earliest iPhone apps, share our tips for contributing to the community, and discuss your answers to our open ballot: should new developers learn UIKit, or is SwiftUI enough? The original 500 App Store apps and games from 11 July 2008: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EpEm01wn18K1Nh_xDU8jZYwRfL9f6KkYUMjJvUPZpc4/edit#gid=0 Mikaela's YouTube channel: https:/...

S3E2: File feedback, goodbye 28.06.2023

In this episode: we discuss Apple's big SwiftData announcement, our plans for building visionOS apps, and what's missing from SwiftUI after WWDC23. WWDC Notes: https://www.wwdcnotes.com/ James Dempsey and the Breakpoints: https://livenearwwdc.com/ SwiftData: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/swiftdata visionOS: https://developer.apple.com/visionos/ Vision Pro from a Developer's...

S3E1: People want to get together 02.06.2023

In this episode: we discuss Apple's incredible new accessibility features, ask how you can keep learning and growing in your career, and share your wish lists for WWDC23. iOS Dev Happy Hour links: https://links.iosdevhappyhour.com Apple introduces new features for cognitive accessibility, along with Live Speech, Personal Voice, and Point and Speak in Magnifier: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2...

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