Abbie VanMeter and The CMM Institute
Stories Lived. Stories Told.
The purpose of Coordinated Management of Meaning is to create better social worlds through better communication. This podcast is about empowering all of us in our communication to see ourselves as curious and active participants with the ability to create meaningful change in our relationships and social worlds. Our practice of CMM is about embodying a “communication perspective,” which asks us to “look at communication, rather than through it.” To take a communication perspective is to consider what we’re making and how we’re making it through our communication practices. This means we look...
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Abbie VanMeter and The CMM Institute
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Jul 8, 2026
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Episodes
How To Change Your Patterns 16.09.2022 12:17
What are we creating? What do we want to create? How can we learn to become resilient and flexible, physically, mentally, and emotionally? ... Today, Abbie discusses our CMM Roadmap, considering what else we need to get where we are going. Abbie explores the challenge of beginning to embody CMM and change your patterns, shining light into the darkness of both our healthy and unhealthy patterns, an...
Communicate Better with Genuine Curiosity 09.09.2022 12:41
Why does it matter that our curiosity is genuine? How can you look for moments where others approach you with Genuine Curiosity and find opportunities for you to do the same?...Abbie discusses Genuine Curiosity (and how it fits in the process of moving from Imagination to Embodied Realism); Genuine Curiosity as an approach to our relationships, emotions, experiences, and ideas; and using the LUUUU...
How Do We See People Through Their Patterns? | Alex Jagiello 26.08.2022 42:01
Why is it important to seek out spaces that encourage learning and critical thinking? What are imagination, genuine inquiry, and embodied realism? And why do we need them? How can you cultivate interactions that are meaningful, intelligent, loving, and connected? ... Today, Alex Jagiello shares the story that she is currently telling about herself. Abbie and Alex discuss the relationship between t...
Imagining a Future Society with Cosmopolis 2045 19.08.2022 19:14
What is the Cosmopolis 2045 project? And how did it start? How can we pay attention to the "invisible in-between" by re-evaluating whether or not our language is achieving our goals? What does it mean to engage and both personal and social evolution? ... Today, Abbie discusses the importance of "cosmopolitan communication" and how we can be profoundly open to and respectful of...
Mindful Communication Practices 05.08.2022 17:00
What is mindfulness? How can mindfulness help us in our communication? ... Today, Abbie discusses why we need mindfulness to create better social worlds, how collaboration in creating a space encourages storytelling and vulnerability, and what it can mean to bring mindfulness to even the smallest of moments. ... Find Part 1 with Sara here . Find Part 2 with Sara here . ... Stories Lived. Stories T...
Deconstructing and Reconstructing | Sara Hayden | Part 2 29.07.2022 39:17
What does it mean for us to be invited into sacred spaces? What do we believe? And what kind of life do we live as a result? How can we ask thoughtful questions that give people the space to think more deeply and connect them back to themselves? How can we lean into the discomfort of deconstructing and reconstructing what we think that we know and believe? How can we acknowledge our ever changing...
Peace And Safety In Our Communities | Sara Hayden | Part 1 28.07.2022 51:00
How do we define ourselves in our communities? How does this build empathy? How do we work together to create a pool of shared meaning? How do the little moments shape us just as much as the big moments? How can we better engage with bifurcation points and be intentional about how we show up in the little moments? ... Today, Reverend Sara Hayden shares the story she tells about herself and the sto...
Moving From Theory To Practice And Beyond: The Evolution Of CMM 22.07.2022 18:09
What is CMM to you? What does your "better social world" look like? How does CMM help you get there? ... In this episode Abbie explores one way of understanding how CMM has evolved over the years from an Interpretive Theory, to a Critical Theory, to a Practical Theory, and beyond. Abbie talks about CMM now in our lives as something that can transform us and something we can embody in our...
Creating Better Social Worlds Through Perspective, Practices & Goals 08.07.2022 11:10
What is the perspective Coordinated Management of Meaning (CMM) offers us? What are the practices that we can use to embody CMM? What are the goals of CMM that influence our choices? ... Today, Abbie discusses three facets of Coordinated Management of Meaning (CMM): perspective, practices, and goals. Abbie explores what changes when we focus on the journey instead of the destination, how we can em...
How Do We Set The Next Generation Up For Success? | CosmoKidz Teachers Amy, Nicole & Katrina 01.07.2022 47:06
What does it look like to make that which is "unseen" into that which is "seen"? How can we teach kids that what they say and how they feel matters? How do we center kids' voices? ... In this conversation, Abbie is joined by CosmoKidz teachers Amy, Nicole, and Katrina to discuss the ways that using CMM in the classroom has transformed their experiences and thinking. Amy, N...
Social Emotional Learning for Kids Using CosmoKidz 23.06.2022 12:02
What is CosmoKidz? And what is the goal? ... Today, Abbie explores CosmoKidz -- a social-emotional learning program created by the CMM Insitute , designed to teach children empathy and healthy communication skills. Abbie talks about how CosmoKidz was developed through a collaborative co-construction process involving kids; the value in making the implicit explicit by teaching kids "soft skill...
Reflecting On Conversations And Why Context Matters 16.06.2022 13:37
What do you need from this podcast? What adds value to your life? Why? How do we change how we relate to storytelling and story"hearing"? ... Today, Abbie explores how building an understanding of CMM takes time (thanks for coming back!); why she desires to create a space for authenticity and vulnerability that allows you to be a part of the conversation, rather than just listening in on...
The Power of Telling and Hearing Stories | Grandpa JP & Grammie & Mom | Part 2 06.06.2022 1:00:18
How are our stories shaped by the presence of love? ... In part two of this conversation, Abbie's Grandpa shares the story he tells about himself. Abbie and Grandpa JP discuss the many roles he has had in his life and how he has found fulfillment in each one, his experience witnessing the power of creating a safe space to share and hear stories, and what storytelling means in their family. Gr...
How Do We Navigate Family Relationships With Compassion? | Abbie's Mom & Grammie | Part 1 03.06.2022 47:09
How do we define ourselves by our relationships? How can we learn to coordinate within our families using grace and compassion? ... Today, Abbie has a very special conversation with her mom (Ann) and grandma (Jeanie). Ann and Jeanie share who they are and some of the stories of their lives. Abbie, Mom, and Grammie discuss what it is like to be part of a storytelling family and where that comes fro...
Coherence, Coordination & Mystery | Collaborating In Communication To Make Meaning 26.05.2022 11:54
What is Coherence? What is Coordination? What is Mystery? And how can we embody these processes to improve our communication? How can we become friends with Mystery? ... Today. Abbie explores the importance of learning to meta-communicate in our relationships. Abbie discusses three key elements of the Coordinated Management of Meaning (CMM) theory that can guide us in our interactions-- Coherence...
Revealing Patterns In Our Communication Using The Serpentine Model 20.05.2022 16:11
What is the Serpentine Model? What are Unwanted Repetitive Patterns (URPs)? And how can we acknowledge and avoid them? ... Today, Abbie explores CMM's Serpentine Model, including what it means to be in conversation with others, to be in collaboration with others, and to create patterns (wanted or unwanted) with others. Abbie discusses an example of using the Serpentine Model. Dr. Barbara McKa...
Improvisation, Expectations, & Leaving Room For Spontaneity | Rik Spann 05.05.2022 1:03:48
How can we leave ourselves open to more spontaneity by letting go of some of our expectations? How do we suffer when we try to fit ourselves into the mold of "should"? Why do we need personal AND social evolution to create a more welcoming and curious culture? ... Rik Spann is an organizational consultant, applied musicologist, artist, and jazz musician. In his work, he is interested in...
Finding Your Highest Level Context With The Hierarchy Model 28.04.2022 13:51
What is the Hierarchy Model? What does it mean to exist in "multiple contexts"? How can understanding the various contexts that shape us help us in our interactions? ... In this episode, Abbie explores the Hierarchy Model, another of the models presented by the Coordinated Management of Meaning (CMM) communication theory. Dr. Barbara McKay explains her understanding of the Hierarchy Mode...
Why Did I Say That? Using The Daisy Model To Understand Context That Shapes Us 14.04.2022 13:13
What is the Daisy Model? Why is it important that we recognize the layers of context that shape us? What is "The Socialized Self"? And how does the Daisy Model help us to understand our moral obligation to ourselves and others? ... Today, Abbie discusses her experience with Imposter Syndrome and how the Coordinated Management of Meaning (CMM) Theory is helping her to trade those feelings...
How Can We Create New Stories & Patterns In Our Relationships? | Dr. Barbara McKay 06.04.2022 45:02
What is "perceived oughtness"? How does it show up in our lives? How can we reflect on this force and make new choices? How can we embody curiosity to understand ourselves and others well? What is the relationship between "meaning," "action," and "emotion"? How can we come to understand the complex dynamics that exist to find healing for our past and a new w...
Uncovering The Stories We Don't Tell With The LUUUUTT Model 30.03.2022 12:49
How are we arriving today? And why does it matter that we ask? What is the LUUUUTT Model? And how can understanding it help us to see more sides of the story? How can we apply the LUUUUTT Model in our everyday interactions? In this episode, Abbie unpacks the LUUUUTT Model and shares an example of applying the model to our everyday interactions. Next Turn: Try it for yourself! The LUUUUTT Model: S...
What Is Abbie's Story? "You Know Who You Are" And Other Things That Matter 17.03.2022 16:11
How did Abbie's involvement with her high school and college Speech Teams shape her? Where did Abbie's great love affair with words start? And how do certain quotes make her feel seen and understood? How is Abbie working to unlearn some old lessons and make some new choices? ... Abbie shares her story, along with some of her favorite quotes and lessons she is learning. Abbie explores her...
We Are "Too Emotional!" | Robbie Williford 02.03.2022 1:14:20
How do we own our stories? And how do we tell them in a way that is true to our experience and helps people to better understand us? What does it mean to be "intentional"? What does it mean to do things that matter "on purpose"? What is the difference? Why do we edit out the best parts of ourselves to accommodate other people? How do we let go of controlling what other people...
An Introduction To The Coordinated Management Of Meaning Communication Theory 01.03.2022 12:35
What is Coordinated Management of Meaning? What does it mean to be "persons-in-conversation"? ... In this first episode, Abbie gives an overview and introduction to the Coordinated Management of Meaning (CMM) Communication Theory. Abbie explores the way stories coexist in CMM and walks through the 4 central claims of the theory. .. Stories Lived. Stories Told. is created, produced &...
Introducing: Stories Lived. Stories Told. A Communication Podcast | Season 1 Trailer 19.02.2022 2:07
“Hi. My name is Abbie, and you are listening to Stories Lived. Stories Told.-- a podcast celebrating humanity and all our stories- the beautiful ones, the messy ones, and the ones that are a little bit of both. Because here’s what I think: people have thoughts and ideas and feelings about their own lives, the people they love, and the things they are passionate about. But not everyone has been giv...
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