Abbie VanMeter and The CMM Institute
Stories Lived. Stories Told.
The purpose of Coordinated Management of Meaning is to create better social worlds through better communication. This podcast is about empowering all of us in our communication to see ourselves as curious and active participants with the ability to create meaningful change in our relationships and social worlds. Our practice of CMM is about embodying a “communication perspective,” which asks us to “look at communication, rather than through it.” To take a communication perspective is to consider what we’re making and how we’re making it through our communication practices. This means we look...
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Abbie VanMeter and The CMM Institute
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Jul 8, 2026
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Episodes
On Mattering, Wellness & Social Sustainability with Ottar Ness | Healing Series | Ep. 122 28.10.2024 1:01:41
How can you create a sense of “Mattering” for yourself and others in your communities? ... Ottar works as a Professor of Counselling at the Norwegian University of Science and Technology (NTNU) and also as Head of NTNU WellFare: Nordic Research Center for Well-being and Social Sustainability . Ottar is an Adjunct Professor at the University of Agder (Norway) and an Honorary Professor at Aalborg Un...
On Celebration, Storytelling, Death & Dying with Madison Wood-Gonzalez | Healing Series | Ep. 121 21.10.2024 1:28:13
What does it look like for you to celebrate? Where in your life can you pursue creation (in any of its many forms) as a way to check in with yourself and reflect? What stories do you have around death and dying? … Madison Wood-Gonzalez is a National Public Speaker, Storyteller of the Year Award-Winner, Best-Selling Author , and Published Poet. She is also the Executive Director for an Indianapolis...
On Undigested Stories & Grief with Tracey Johnston | Healing Series | Ep. 120 14.10.2024 59:38
What are your “Undigested Stories”? … Tracey currently lives and works in Aberdeen, Scotland within an independent therapy service at Possibilities Counselling and Psychotherapy . Her professional training was initially in Social Work and she worked with children and families, before retraining in Systemic Psychotherapy. Tracey currently works with children, adults, couples and families. She has a...
On Personal Freedom and Collective Liberation with Heddy Nam and La Shanda Sugg | Ep. 119 07.10.2024 1:22:27
What are you creating in your relationships? What does 'healing' mean to you- both individually and collectively? ... La Shanda Sugg describes herself as a storyteller, storyholder, reflector, and soul hugger. She is the co-host of the Labors of Love Podcast and “Chief Love Officer” of Labors of Love Counseling and Consulting . Heddy Nam is a liberatory coach and facilitator for people,...
On Changing the Moment in the Moment with John Burnham | Relationships Series | Ep. 118 30.09.2024 1:47:43
Please be aware that this conversation contains mentions of disordered eating, domestic violence, and sexual abuse. … What does it mean to take a "not knowing position?" How can you change the moment in the moment? What else can you listen for? … John Burnham is a consultant systemic psychotherapist and supervisor, with over forty years of working with families, couples and individuals....
On Children, Stories & Communities with Nana Bonsu | Relationships Series | Ep. 117 23.09.2024 1:03:32
Where in your life are you living or telling a singular story? How can you make space to explore more stories for yourself and others? … Nana Bonsu is an experienced senior leader. Nana is a qualified social worker, family and systemic psychotherapist, and systemic supervisor. Nana is the Director of Relational Practice in Camden. Nana has worked in children’s services for over twenty years, both...
On Creating Healthy Relationships with Kongit Farrell | Relationships Series | Ep. 116 16.09.2024 1:05:07
How can you begin to embrace communication as a transformative force for change in your life? … Kongit Farrell is a licensed marriage and family therapist with specialties in conflict resolution, trauma, couples therapy, and human sexuality. She is the founder of the Center for Healthy Marriage and is an adjunct professor of Clinical Psychology at Pepperdine University. Kongit is an alumna of the...
On Neurodiversity in Relationships with Laurie Budlong-Morse | Relationships Series | Ep. 115 09.09.2024 1:08:10
Where in your relationships can you name the meaning you are making? Where can ask others to name the meaning they are making? … Laurie Budlong-Morse is a Licensed Marriage & Family Therapist and an AANE Certified Neurodiverse Couples Therapist with a private practice in Indianapolis; she also creates educational content and offers online services with a focus on mixed-neurotype relationships...
On Curiosity, CMM & Cosmopolitan Communication with Barbara McKay | Relationships Series | Ep. 114 02.09.2024 51:15
What is "perceived oughtness"? How does it show up in our lives? How can we reflect on this force and make new choices? How can we embody curiosity to understand ourselves and others well? What is the relationship between “beliefs,” "meaning," "action," and "emotion"? How can we come to understand the complex dynamics that exist to find healing for our past...
On School Inclusion with Gro Emmertsen Lund | Education Series | Ep. 113 26.08.2024 1:06:01
What are the tangible changes that you can be a part of making in your social worlds? … Gro Emmertsen Lund is an independent scholar, education specialist, author and researcher; she is a part of The Taos Institute , USA, serving as a Taos Associate and Faculty Advisor. She is also part of NO!SE (Network of Independent Scholars in Education) in Denmark. She has published a number of articles and b...
On Differentiation, Dysregulation & Boundaries with Stephanie Higgs | Education Series | Ep. 112 19.08.2024 1:31:48
How can we celebrate our own individuality (and the individuality of others) by being honest about our needs, finding unique ways to meet them, and saying out loud the things we appreciate about each other? How can we celebrate children's individuality in school settings and beyond? What happens when we learn, not only how to tell our own story, but to hear the stories of others as well? What...
On Inclusive Excellence in Education with Emily Rutter | Education Series | Ep. 111 12.08.2024 1:02:12
Where can you find paths to engagement? How can you redefine excellence for yourself? What would it look like for you to embrace curiosity in your own life and stories? ... Emily Ruth Rutter is Professor of English, Associate Dean of the Honors College, and affiliate faculty in Women’s, Gender, and African American Studies at Ball State University. She is the author of four monographs, most recent...
On Research, Storytelling & Collective Trauma with Spozhmay Oriya | Education Series | Ep. 110 05.08.2024 53:12
How can research help us change the stories we tell about ourselves, our mental health, and our shared trauma? … Spozhmay Oriya is a PhD candidate in the Educational Psychology program with focus on collective trauma, faculty of Education, Simon Fraser University in Vancouver, Canada. She has BA in psychology and MA in Education. She was assistant professor at faculty of Psychology and Educational...
On Giftedness and Positive Disintegration with Chris Wells and Emma Nicholson | Ep. 109 29.07.2024 1:20:12
Please be aware that this conversation contains discussion of suicide, addiction, and mental illness. ... What resonates with you from the Theory of Positive Disintegration? How can we start to challenge the framework we have about cognition and emotion? How might we use TPD and CMM to equip ourselves to lean into the challenge of deconstructing and reconstructing our values? ... Dr. Chris Wells i...
On Better Indigenous Representation with Jessica Engelking | Unheard Stories Series | Ep. 108 22.07.2024 47:18
What examples of indigenous representation have you encountered? For both indigenous and non-indigenous people, how can you seek out more stories told by indigenous people about indigenous experiences? ... Jessica Engelking (she/her) is a descendant of the White Earth Band of Ojibwe. She has a bachelor’s degree in Philosophy from the University of Minnesota, Morris and a master’s degree in Philoso...
On Disability Justice & Changing Stories with Hannah Soyer | Unheard Stories Series | Ep. 107 15.07.2024 59:59
How did you (or did you not ) see yourself represented in stories growing up and how did that shape your understanding of yourself? How has your story changed? ... Hannah Soyer is a queer disabled writer living in the Midwest. She has written for nationally acclaimed publications such as The Sun Magazine, Bustle, and Cosmopolitan and is the editor of The Ending Hasn’t Happened Yet: An Anthology o...
On Creating Neurodiverse Affirming Social Worlds with Emily Kircher-Morris | Ep. 106 08.07.2024 1:01:05
How can you practice both authenticity and empathy as you interact with others? How can you create a “Neurodiverse Affirming” space in your social worlds? ... Emily Kircher-Morris, M.A., M.Ed., LPC, inspired by her own experiences as a neurodivergent person, is dedicated to destigmatizing neurodiversity and supporting neurodivergent people of all ages. Emily currently works as a mental health coun...
On Disability, Storytelling & Collaborative Reimagination with Rebekah Taussig | Ep. 105 01.07.2024 1:36:48
How can we find the courage to tell our stories, knowing that it matters for us to tell them? What is the story that you want to tell about yourself? How is it different from the story the world is telling you? What is your current understanding of disability? How do you relate to those who are disabled? How can we embrace the experience of having a body in a way that empowers us as we age and our...
On Co-constructing Uniquenesses with John Stewart | Showing Up Series | Ep. 104 24.06.2024 1:02:45
Please be aware that this conversation contains brief references to sexual violence and wrongful imprisonment. ... What is your “sphere of influence” and how can you change how you show up to it? ... John Stewart served on the faculty of the Department of Communication at the University of Washington from 1969 to 2001; was Vice President for Academic Affairs at the University of Dubuque; and becam...
On Critical Thinking with John Chetro Szivos | Showing Up Series | Ep. 103 17.06.2024 58:21
Where in your life can you practice critical thinking? How can you think critically about your communication? … John Chetro Szivos is a semi-retired professor but still an active author who recently published On Becoming a Critical Thinker: Awakening Your Business Superpower . A student of Vern Cronen’s at UMass, Amherst and a dedicated CMM researcher and follower of the philosophy of John Dewey,...
On Pressure, Performance & Polyvagal Theory with Michael Allison | Showing Up Series | Ep. 102 10.06.2024 1:13:21
What is going on with your physiological self right now? What do you need to do to slow down and get quiet enough to pay attention to this? How might your interactions and relationships change if you show up using what you learned about Polyvagal Theory today? … Michael Allison is the developer of The Play Zone ; a contributing author for Psychology Today with his platform, The Pressure Paradox ;...
On Holding Space with Aminata Cairo | Showing Up Series | Ep. 101 03.06.2024 1:04:56
How are you showing up? Where can you learn to “hold space”? … Aminata Cairo is an anthropologist, psychologist, educator, storyteller, and “love-worker." She is an independent consultant “who works with people." She is the former lector of Inclusive Education at The Hague University of Applied Sciences and the former lector of Social Justice and Diversity in the Arts at the Amsterdam Un...
On Refugee Community Kitchen & Serving Displaced People with Janie Mac | Migration Series | Ep. 100 27.05.2024 59:47
How do you show up for your community? For people outside your community? What could we do together if we were all committed to protecting the human dignity of all people? … Janie Mac is a co-founder of Refugee Community Kitchen , a volunteer-run organization that has been serving hot, nourishing meals to displaced people in Northern France and the UK since 2015. Today, Janie explains her work wit...
On Mobilizing Communities with Sandy Ovalle Martínez | Migration Series | Ep. 99 20.05.2024 52:23
What communities are you a part of? How can you engage in action around immigration? .. Sandy Ovalle Martínez is a table-setter and space-curator, rooting her work in the deep faith and strength of Chicane and Latine spiritual teachers. She is a native of Mexico City. A mujerista theologian and an organizer, she currently directs campaigns and mobilizing for a faith-based non-profit in Washington,...
On Complicating Migration Narratives with Karen Gonzalez | Migration Series | Ep. 98 13.05.2024 54:21
What stories have you been told about migration? … Karen Gonzalez is a speaker, writer, storyteller, and immigrant advocate, who herself immigrated from Guatemala as a child. Karen is a former public school teacher and attended Fuller Theological Seminary, where she studied theology and missiology. For the last 15 years, she has been a non-profit professional, currently working for an organization...
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