Science and Nonduality
Sounds of SAND
Sounds of SAND invites listeners into a contemplative journey through the infinite cycles of existence - from its raw beauty to its deepest mysteries, from its intricate complexity to its profound wonder. Through intimate conversations, thought-provoking interviews, poetic readings, and carefully curated music, we weave together ancient wisdom with lived experience, creating a tapestry of sound that honors the great questions of being
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Jul 9, 2026
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#27 Embracing the Present: Gail Brenner 23.03.2023 54:56
By training, Gail Brenner is a licensed Ph. D. psychologist and trauma specialist with almost 30 years of experience offering individual sessions and group workshops. Her work as a therapist and teacher invites people to shed attachment to false identities, return to their essential wholeness, and realize the truth of who they are. In primarily group courses, she holds safe space for people to inv...
#26 From Separation to Oneness, From Monocultures to Diversity: Vandana Shiva 16.03.2023 49:00
After a PhD thesis on non separability and non locality in Quantum theory, Dr Vandana Shiva studied non separation between forests, soil and water, the Green revolution in Punjab and the relationship between violence against nature by chemical agriculture and emergence of violence in society. Since then, she has kept working on the link between seeds, plants, soil, climate, and biodiversity. This...
#25 Walks with Death: Ash Canty 09.03.2023 1:00:08
Ash Canty (they/he) is a Death Walker & Psychic Medium. Their ancestors are Indigenous peoples of West Africa, Cherokee, Iroquois, Blackfeet and Northern European. They support and walk others in the threshold and ritual of their own unique death and dying process. They are led by spirit, ancestors, and nature in all that they do. They teach many programs that support others in the liberation...
#24 Somatic Abolitionism: Resmaa Menakem & Gabor Maté 02.03.2023 51:48
This conversation is from the Wisdom of Trauma Talks on Trauma Series (2021). Somatic Abolitionism is living, embodied anti-racist practice and cultural building —a way of being in the world. It is a return to the age-old wisdom of human bodies respecting, honoring, and resonating with other human bodies. It is not a exclusively a goal, an attitude, a belief, an idea, a strategy, a movement, a pla...
#23 The Songs of Gaia: Monica Gagliano 23.02.2023 1:01:30
Monica Gagliano is a research associate professor in evolutionary ecology and former fellow of the Australian Research Council. She is currently based at Southern Cross University, where she directs the Biological Intelligence Lab funded by the Templeton World Charity Foundation. She has pioneered the brand-new research field of plant bioacoustics, for the first time experimentally demonstrating t...
#22 Embodying the Unknown: Ellen Emmet 16.02.2023 1:04:50
“…In our daily lives, the body is seldom tasted as it is. We rarely listen to its language or allow it to simply unfold and blossom in its natural original intelligence.” —Ellen Emmet Ellen Emmet offers meetings and retreats in The Awakening Body, a direct exploration of experience sourced in the non-dual tradition of Kashmir Shivaism, Authentic Movement, and self-inquiry. In addition, she h...
#21 A Hunger for Wholeness: Iya Affo 09.02.2023 54:20
This is a recording from the 2022 Community Conversation between with guest Iya Affo and SAND co-founders Zaya and Maurizio Benazzo . Very few people are aware of the impact of historical trauma. Historical trauma is trauma so deeply rooted in the subconscious we may not even know it is there. It can leave us feeling anxious, irritable, sad, and hopeless… and we have no idea why. But once we begin...
#20 Vibrating with Awe: Laura Inserra 02.02.2023 1:34:32
"The essence of the Universe is vibration, quenchless energy in motion, e-motion. My work is about experiencing the Source and its manifestation through sound, emotions, and body awareness." ~ Laura Inserra Laura Inserra is a sound alchemist, a technician of the sacred, and a multimedia producer. She lives and creates at the confluence of music, wisdom schools, and cutting edge technology. She gre...
#19 The Wonder of the Heart: A.H. Almaas & Thomas Hübl 26.01.2023 54:50
“The mind creates the abyss, and the heart crosses it.” — Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj A deep and insightful dialog between A.H. Almaas, founder of the Diamond Approach to Self-realization and Thomas Hübl, founder of the Academy of Inner Science. This conversation was recorded from a 2022 SAND Community Gathering facilitated by SAND co-founders Zaya and Maurizio Benazzo. In this meeting between two le...
#18 The Mysticism of Sound and Music: Michael Harrison 19.01.2023 57:16
In this episode, we discuss the life and work of musician and Sufi teacher Hazrat Inayat Khan with composer/pianist and Inayat Khan scholar Michael Harrison. Hazrat Inayat Khan (Urdu: عنایت خان رحمت خان) (5 July 1882 – 5 February 1927) was an Indian professor of musicology, singer, exponent of the saraswati vina, poet, philosopher, and pioneer of the transmission of Sufism to the West...
#17 Woman Stands Shining: Pat McCabe 12.01.2023 1:05:22
In this moving and powerful conversation with Pat McCabe hosted by SAND friend and presenter Lynn Murphy from SAND’s Wisdom in Times of Crisis series. At this time we are collective examining our human generated systems, worldview, purpose, or our paradigm. What if paradigm was a choice? Indigenous peoples the world over share the same planet, the same water, soil, sky, sun, moon, but how they pla...
#16 The Wandering, Winding Way of the Wound: Sophie Strand and Bayo Akomolafe 21.12.2022 50:08
An excerpt from the four day webinar The Wandering, Winding Way of the Wound with Bayo Akomolafe and Sophie Strand exploring the Politics of Cure, the Shadows of Harm Reduction, and Transgressive Networks of Care at World End. You can enroll in the Course here: https://www.scienceandnonduality.com/webinar/wandering-winding-way Also coming up a Community Gathering with Sophie Strand is happening ne...
#15 The Healing Potential of Microdosing: James Fadiman & Ayelet Waldman 14.12.2022 52:36
In this entertaining talk from SAND18, James Fadiman , "America's wisest and most respected authority on psychedelics and their use," describes the citizen science of his recent investigations into the effects of microdosing, and shares some fascinating stories from the hundreds he has gathered in his ongoing research. jamesfadiman.com Ayelet Waldman is the author of several novels, and A Really G...
#14 Healing Relationships in Community and in Ourselves: Eriel Tchekwie Deranger 07.12.2022 1:01:46
Science and Nonduality co-founders Zaya and Maurizio Benazzo host this Community Gathering with Dënesųłiné indigenous rights activist and climate activist Eriel Tchekwie Deranger . This talk touches into such topics as intergenerational trauma, decolonizing spirituality, climte crisis, ransom economy, and our collective joy and pain. Some links from the episode: Resmaa Menakem | Embodied Anti-Raci...
#13 Finding Wholeness Through Our Broken Places: Tara Brach, Jack Kornfield & Dr. Gabor Maté 30.11.2022 1:03:28
In this conversation from the “Talks on Trauma” series Gabor investigates the paths of personal Trauma woven into the Buddhist and personal psychology fields for which Jack and Tara are so well known. Find out more about this series “Talks on Trauma” as part of the “All Access Pass” from the film The Wisdom of Trauma : https://thewisdomoftrauma.com/store/ Tara Brach is an American psychologist, au...
#12 Indigenous Languages and Encoded Quantum Physics: Tiokasin Ghosthorse 23.11.2022 1:17:00
Tiokasin Ghosthorse is a member of the Cheyenne River Lakota Nation of South Dakota and has a long history with Indigenous activism and advocacy. Tiokasin is the Founder, Host and Executive Producer of “First Voices Radio” (formerly “First Voices Indigenous Radio”) for the last 28 years in New York City and Seattle/Olympia, Washington. In 2016, he received a Nomination for the Nobel Peace Prize fr...
#11: Quantum Listening: IONE 16.11.2022 1:02:38
In episode #11 IONE is in conversation with Sounds of SAND Producer Michael Reiley McDermott IONE is a noted author, playwright/director and poet whose works include the critically acclaimed memoir, Pride of Family Four Generations of American Women of Color , Listening in Dreams and This is a Dream!. Other works include; The Night Train to Aswan and Nile Night: Remembered Texts from the Deep and...
#10 Nonduality and Postcapitalism: Lynn Murphy and Alnoor Ladha 09.11.2022 1:07:12
Join Lynn Murphy and Alnoor Ladha in conversation with Zaya and Maurizio Benazzo about their new book, Post Capitalist Philanthropy: Healing Wealth in the Time of Collapse , as they explore the history of wealth accumulation to the current logic of late-stage capitalism — and ultimately to the lived possibilities of other ways of knowing, sensing and being that can usher i...
#9 The Universe in Ecstatic Motion: Mona Haydar 02.11.2022 27:45
In this live SAND Conference talk she offers some beautiful sacred wisdom from her Islamic tradition with that special Science and Nonduality flavor weaving her talk through the ancient and the modern, the light and dark in this talk. In this talk she leads the live audience in some breathwork, chanting, and singing, so we invite you to tone along wherever you’re listening. She touches i...
#8 Evolving with Consciousness: Peter Russell 26.10.2022 59:44
In this episode we look back on a decade of talks by Peter with a conversation hosted by Sounds of SAND producer Michael Reiley McDermott. We touch into such concepts as Peter's history and origins in meditation The Beatles and Love The Global Brain Letting go of Nothing Climate Collapse And what's next Peter Russell Originally studying mathematics and theoretical physics, became increasingly inte...
#7 Indigenous Resilience: Healing Trauma Through Tradition and Resistance 19.10.2022 1:07:50
In this talk from the Talks on Trauma series from the Wisdom of Trauma All Access Pass Course . Dr. Gabor Maté hosts this expert panel of Indigenous teachers. Intergenerational trauma: the impact of colonization and genocide Indigenous wisdom and the healing of trauma Resistance and healing With Jesse Thistle, Tiokasin Ghosthorse, Ruby Gibson, Patricia Vickers & Gabor Maté Bios Patricia Vicker...
#6 New Gods at the End of the World: Bayo Akomolafe and Sophie Strand 12.10.2022 57:04
Today, we present wild and flowering conversation between two poets, writers, philosophers, and theobiologians Bayo Akomalofe and Sophie Strand . This conversation is from a 2022 SAND Community Gathering. To hear the full conversation with Q&A from the live webinar you can view it here . In Greek Mythology, the Titan Kronos eats an indigestible stone and vomits up the new Olympic pa...
Healing Trauma and Spiritual Growth: Thomas Hübl, Peter Levine and Zaya Benazzo 04.10.2022 59:58
From SAND 18 with Peter Levine, the father of trauma therapy work, and Thomas Huebl, a spiritual teacher known for his work integrating healing of collective trauma, discussing the relationship between healing trauma and spiritual growth. One theme that repeats throughout the discussion is that we are all connected through the traumatization of the world and that the healing of trauma is a way of...
#4 Entering the Bardo: Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche 28.09.2022 58:43
Today on the podcast a profound yet light and sometimes funny conversation with Tibetan meditation master and teacher Geshe Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche . This conversation is from SAND's Dying and Living online summit. In the conversation, Tenzin and SAND's founders Zaya and Maurizio Benazzo delve into such topics as Fear of Death in our Western Culture Death as a teac...
#3 The Future of Love: Esther Perel 20.09.2022 1:18:24
In this magnificent talk from the SAND 2018 Radiant Intimacy gathering, Esther Perel offers fresh insights into Expectations Negotiations Intimacy Motherhood Turn-ons and turn-offs The coming and going of love and eroticism. She concludes with answers to a series of questions from the audience, which confirm her reputation as one of the most brilliant and original authorities in the na...
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