Science and Nonduality
Sounds of SAND
Sounds of SAND invites listeners into a contemplative journey through the infinite cycles of existence - from its raw beauty to its deepest mysteries, from its intricate complexity to its profound wonder. Through intimate conversations, thought-provoking interviews, poetic readings, and carefully curated music, we weave together ancient wisdom with lived experience, creating a tapestry of sound that honors the great questions of being
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Jul 9, 2026
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#125 Building Bridges: john a. powell 03.04.2025 54:12
From a recent SAND Community Gathering (March 2025) At a time when our world can feel increasingly divided, and many are retreating into isolation, civil rights scholar john a. powell offers a transformative approach to building connections across differences. Drawing from his groundbreaking work with the Othering & Belonging Institute and his own journey, john shows how to stop perceiving dif...
#124 War’s Long Shadow: Jungwon Kim & Linda Thai 27.03.2025 54:30
From a recent SAND Community Gathering (March 2025) Join mental health clinician Linda Thai and writer Jungwon Kim for an in-depth conversation on intergenerational trauma, historical grief, and healing in community. Together, they explored psychological, spiritual, and communal reverberations of historical violence, framed within the context of U.S. wars in Korea and Vietnam, yet deeply relevant...
#123 Listening from Silence: John J. Prendergast 20.03.2025 53:51
John J. Prendergast, PhD , is a spiritual teacher, author, retired psychotherapist, and retired adjunct professor of psychology who has taught at Esalen and Kripalu and online. He studied for many years with the sage Dr. Jean Klein as well as with the spiritual teacher Adyashanti. He is the author of the books In Touch , The Deep Heart and Your Deepest Ground: A Guide to Embodied Spirituality ( So...
#122 Deep Medicine Circle: Dr. Rupa Marya, Charlene Eigen-Vasquez & Walter Riley 13.03.2025 55:09
From a recent SAND Community Gathering (Feb 2025) hosted by SAND co-founders, Zaya and Maurizio Benazzo . Deep Medicine Circle (DMC), a collective of healers, farmers, artists, and storytellers, is challenging colonial structures by redefining health and wellbeing through practices that heal communities and restore connections to land. Led by Dr. Rupa Marya, Charlene Eigen-Vasquez, and Walter Rile...
#121 From Science to Spirit: Elisabet Sahtouris 06.03.2025 44:16
Today we present an anthology episode with SAND speaker, Dr. Elisabet Sahtouris (1936-2024) who passed in December 2024. Internationally known as a dynamic speaker, Dr. Sahtouris was an evolution biologist, futurist, professor, author and consultant on Living Systems Design. She taught the relevance of biological systems to organisational design in business, government and society. She was a Fello...
#21 A Hunger for Wholeness: Iya Affo (Encore) 27.02.2025 54:20
This is a recording from the 2022 Community Conversation between with guest Iya Affo and SAND co-founders Zaya and Maurizio Benazzo . Very few people are aware of the impact of historical trauma. Historical trauma is trauma so deeply rooted in the subconscious we may not even know it is there. It can leave us feeling anxious, irritable, sad, and hopeless… and we have no idea why. But once we begin...
#120 Depth Hypnosis: Isa Gucciardi 20.02.2025 51:06
In this episode, Isa Gucciardi discusses depth hypnosis , combining shamanic practices, Buddhist psychology, transpersonal psychology, and energy medicine to assist individuals in healing from issues such as depression, anxiety, trauma, and more. Isa Gucciardi, Ph. D. holds degrees in cultural and linguistic anthropology, comparative religion, and transpersonal psychology. She is the creator of De...
#119 Fractal Flourishing: Jeremy Lent 13.02.2025 53:41
In this episode, our guest, Jeremy Lent, discusses the profound global upheaval in early 2025. We explore themes of hope and grief amid political, cultural, and environmental crises. Lent provides deep insights into systems thinking, emphasizing the importance of interconnectedness and unpredictability in complex systems. The conversation also holds space for the impact of reductionist thinking, t...
#118 Mythic Dharma: John Tarrant 06.02.2025 58:46
Today we explore the story of the Buddha’s awakening through a mythic lens with Buddhist writer and teacher, John Tarrant. We touch into topics like Zen koan, grief, death, art, and how this timeless parable of the Buddh’s story still resonants for thousands of years. John Tarrant is a Zen teacher, writer, and poet who has studied koans for over forty years. He is director of the Pacific Zen Insti...
#117 Minds Under Siege: Gabor Maté, Naomi Klein & Cecilie Surasky 30.01.2025 1:22:23
In this SAND Community Gathering (January 2025), journalist Naomi Klein and trauma expert Dr. Gabor Maté explored the complex intersection of collective trauma, political power, and memory in a discussion moderated by Cecilie Surasky. Drawing from Naomi’s recent analysis of how trauma has been weaponized in current conflicts, and Gabor’s deep understanding of trauma’s psychological impacts, their...
#116 Echoes of Resilience: Rawan Roshni 23.01.2025 1:04:03
Rawan Roshni is in conversation to discuss the recent ceasefire announcement affecting Palestine and offers a poignant and emotional reflection on the situation. She shares stories from her displaced Palestinian heritage, detailing her family's survival and the ongoing trauma faced by Palestinians. We explore the healing modalities of sound, music, and the human voice and listen to two of her newe...
#115 Remembering Nature’s Ways: Darcia Narvaez 16.01.2025 55:21
In this live SAND Community Gathering (January 2025), SAND co-founders Maurizio and Zaya Benazzo welcome Darcia Narvaez, professor emeritus of psychology at the University of Notre Dame, to discuss her interdisciplinary research on evolved morality, child development, and human flourishing. Narvaez shares insights from her book, The Evolved Nest , and explores the impact of modern parenting practi...
#114 On Grief, Belonging & Intimacy: David Whyte & Gayle Karen Young 09.01.2025 56:11
Recorded live at a SAND Community Gathering (December 2024) hosted by Zaya and Maurizio Benazzo. In this intimate conversation with poet and philosopher David Whyte and his wife, cultural architect Gayle Karen Young, explore the tender territories of grief, belonging and rest. Drawing from David’s new book Consolations II , this unique dialogue offers a glimpse into how two lives intertwine in bot...
#113 Ancient Rhythms: Pat McCabe & Francis Weller 26.12.2024 1:19:14
Join us as we journey into the depths of winter’s sacred darkness with renowned wisdom keepers Pat McCabe (Woman Stands Shining) and Francis Weller . Recorded on December 21, 2024 , at SAND’s Winter Solstice gathering, this episode invites you into a virtual ceremonial space that honors the winter solstice as a powerful moment of transition and transformation. Through poetry, storytelling,...
#112 Ayurvedic Longevity: Dr. Avanti Kumar-Singh 19.12.2024 50:47
Today we are in conversation with Ayurvedic doctor Dr. Avanti Kumar-Singh where we discuss longevity through the lens of intergenerational trauma, colonization, ecological collapse, and how the ancient practice of Ayurvedic medicine might contain remidies for what ails our modern health crises. Avanti Kumar-Singh, MD , is an internationally recognized Ayurveda and integrative medicine practitioner...
#57 The Alchemy of Love: Cynthia Bourgeault and A.H. Almaas (Encore) 12.12.2024 1:03:38
Zaya and Maurizio Benazzo host this captivating conversation into divine and personal love with two modern-day mystics, held dear by SAND from a SAND Community Gaterhing from July 2023. Love, a powerful catalyst for transformation on the spiritual path, resonates at the core of our being. Through this dialogue, we will transcend the limitations of a narrow, individualized perception of love, immer...
#111 When Truth Becomes the Enemy: Mariam Barghouti, Ashira Darwish & Rawand Arqawi 05.12.2024 50:45
In this important conversation examining the vital role of journalists and documentarians in conflict zones, Palestinian journalist, Mariam Barghouti and Jenin resident, Rawand Arqawi share their firsthand experiences with Palestinian trauma healer, Ashira Darwish, cutting through the fog of misinformation to reveal the human realities often obscured in Western mainstream narratives. Our guests sh...
#34 Conversations on Complexity Podcast: Neil Theise (Encore) 28.11.2024 52:32
“We are not walking through the world; we are interwoven with it. In everything we do, we participate in complexity.” –Neil Theise Neil Theise is a professor of pathology at the NYU Grossman School of Medicine. Through his scientific research, he has been a pioneer of adult stem cell plasticity and the anatomy of the human interstitium. Dr. Theise’s studies in complexity theory have led to inter...
#110 Mosaics of Myth: Michael Meade 21.11.2024 56:00
Michael Meade is a renowned storyteller and scholar of mythology, anthropology, and psychology, who draws from his study of archetypal myths, ancestral wisdom and cross-cultural rituals to interpret our remarkable moment in human history. While many of us are attempting to recognize our own self-terminating patterns and inhabit new ways of being human, Michael helps us to see the stories we are li...
#109 Salt of the Earth: Osama lliwat & Rotem Levin 14.11.2024 1:10:10
Standing for Collective Liberation “No one will be free if the others live under occupation. No one will be safe unless everyone is safe.” In this live SAND Community Gathering (November 2024) Zaya and Maurizio were in discussion with Palestinian and Israeli peace activists Osama lliwat & Rotem Levin who share their personal stories, describe the reality on the ground, and explain their vision...
#108 Thrutopian Dreams: Manda Scott 07.11.2024 51:24
Manda Scott is an award-winning novelist and host of the acclaimed Accidental Gods podcast. Best known for the Boudica: Dreaming series, her previous novels have been short-listed for the Orange Prize, the Edgar, Wilbur Smith and Saltire Awards and won the McIllvanney Prize. Her latest novel ANY HUMAN POWER is a Mytho-Political thriller which lays out a Thrutopian road map to a flourishing future...
#107 Not In Our Name: Rabbi Cat Zavis 31.10.2024 56:18
Disentangling Judaism from the Violence of Occupation “The way to manifest your sacredness is to embody sacredness – to treat all life as sacred.” – Rabbi Cat Zavis In this live SAND Community Gathering (October 2024) Zaya and Maurizio Benazzo were in discussion with Rabbi Cat Zavis, a renowned Jewsish teacher, writer, and social justice activist. They discussed the misuse of Judaism to justify th...
#106 Black Palestinian Solidarity: Faith Gay, Rev. Naomi Washington-Leapheart & Imam Adeyinka Mendes 24.10.2024 1:00:41
In this episode we present excerpts from the recent conversation (June 2024) as part of SAND’s “Conversations on Palestine” around the premiere of the film Where Olive Trees Weep hosted by the directors of the film and co-founders of SAND, Zaya and Maurizio Benazzo. You can watch this full conversation and 22 others at Where Olive Trees Weep: 23 Conversations on Palestine . SAND has created a prog...
#105 From Grief to Liberation: Ash Canty 17.10.2024 50:07
Ash Canty (he/him) is a trans masc, afro-indigenous, non-binary Psychic Medium & Death Guide. He support's and walks others in the threshold of their own unique death and dying process. He is led by spirit and his West African Benin, Eastern Band Cherokee, Northern Haudenosaunee and Blackfeet ancestors as well as the natural world in all that he does. In his mediumship gifts he offers powerful...
#104 Turning Toward the Heart: Pir Zia Inayat Khan 10.10.2024 58:58
In this Community Gathering (October 2024) Zaya and Maurizio were in discussion with Pir Zia Inayat Khan, a renowned spiritual teacher in the Sufi tradition, and explored the practice of turning toward the heart — a fundamental concept in Sufism and many other spiritual paths. Can we see the heart not just as a physical organ, but as a center of consciousness, wisdom, and divine connection?...
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