Katie Boysen & Katie Dufficy
Smart in Public
CEOs trust us, the media tolerates us, and our mothers think we know Oprah. The Smart in Public podcast, hosted by Katie Boysen and Katie Dufficy, shares business, career, and life experiences through the world of two Public Relations professionals just trying to keep their sh*t together.
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May 26, 2026
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Episodes
Is IR the Hardest Communications Job in Business? with John Cummings, Managing Director, CFO, and COO at Smith Point Capital 05.08.2025 52:08
Most PR professionals think investor relations is just about spreadsheets and earnings calls—but John Cummings, Managing Director, CFO, and COO at Smith Point Capital, proves that IR is actually advanced brand storytelling attached to VERY big dollar signs. In this episode of Smart in Public, John unpacks how investor relations professionals master the art of narrative control when (sometimes!!) b...
Demystifying the IPO for comms with Daniella Vallurupalli 29.07.2025 1:01:02
In today's episode of the Smart in Public podcast, the Katies welcome Daniella Vallurupalli, VP and Head of Global Communications at Cloudflare, to demystify the role of communications professionals during the IPO process. Daniella shares the importance of preparing for an IPO well in advance (with some incredibly helpful tips on how to do that), how to get a S.E.A.T. at the table throughout...
Expectations, customer service, and your CEO could be causing a comms disconnect trifecta 22.07.2025 43:48
In this week's episode of the Smart and Public podcast, the Katies dig into the crisis recently faced by Qantas, Australia's most well-known national airline, following a significant data breach earlier this month. Hot topics were the implications of the breach on customer trust and loyalty, the challenges of crisis communication in today's instant-info digital age, and the importa...
Navigate the shifting startup ecosystem with Alex Konrad, Founder & Editor of Upstarts Media 15.07.2025 48:57
In this episode of the Smart in Public podcast, the Katies welcome friend of the pod and everyone's favorite startup journalist Alex Konrad, Founder & Editor of Upstarts Media. The big topic on the table was getting a better sense of the direction startup news reporting is heading -- from industry predictions all the way down to some real tactical stuff like how to pitch Substack journal...
Bezos Spectacle, Protesticals, Big Wallets & Watching the NYC Mayoral Race 08.07.2025 38:10
It's Season 2 of the Smart in Public podcast! The Katies kick off the new season with something old and something new, because we can't stop trying to understand the world that is Bezos, even if it means we're talking about them for the third time since the inception of the podcast. The implications on celebrity culture and brand perception are just too good. We also get pretty spi...
37 - You are the brand now 17.06.2025 42:48
Moving forward, let's just assume all episodes are hot takes, ok?? Today, the Katies dissect the article 'You are the brand now' written by Kira Klaas in her On Brand Substack to unpack the evolving landscape of personal branding and its implications for corporate strategy and consumer behavior. We know that individuals are becoming brands themselves, and recognize the importance...
36 - Hot Take: The New Era of PR 10.06.2025 40:59
In Episode 36 of the Smart in Public Podcast, the Katies kick off with a shameless plug of the launch of Boysen's new business, Comms People and there was not a dry pit in the house as she talked about it for the first time publicly. The hot takes were really about the insights Boysen pulled from the Haymaker Media Summit, which mainly focused on the evolving role of AI in journalism and the...
35 - Create brand content that serves both your business and your career with Fana Yohannes 03.06.2025 54:05
In episode 35 of Smart in Public, Fana Yohannes, Founder of Flora by Fana and Here to Help (H2H), joins the Katies on the pod to chat personal and professional branding, building a future-proof network, navigating the job market, and the importance of a consistent online presence (with tips on how to actually do it without burning out). The evolution of networking is ongoing in the digital age, a...
34 - The common thread between ROI and trusted storytelling with Cristin Culver 27.05.2025 55:06
This week on Smart in Public, the Katies welcome Cristin Culver, founder of Common Thread Communications, to the pod. Cristin's approach to comms is unique -- and it has to be given she works across the Fintech, Proptech, and Legaltech industries. Her highly ROI driven comms strategies remove the safety net of saying 'comms is hard to measure' from her vocabulary, and her clients lo...
33 - Hot Take: Emma Grede's work-life balance & would you work for Elon Musk? 20.05.2025 41:34
It's another Hot Take episode and The Katies are in a mood. Hot Take #1 (2:02): Emma Grede's statements around work-life balance were not completely out of line - she was just lacking tangible examples in her messaging. Hot Take #2 (25:30): X's search for a new comms lead validates that comms is a critical role at the leadership table. Takeaways Work-life balance is often viewed d...
32 - How to run successful comms programs in Asia with Zixin Chai 13.05.2025 55:11
In episode 32 of Smart in Public, the Katies are joined by Zixin Chai, Senior Partner at RICE, a FINN Partners Company, to learn about the comms and media landscape across Asia. Zixin guides Boysen & Dufficy through the challenges of working with multinational clients in Asia, cultural nuances, and the current talent pool in Singapore (where she's based). We also explore the media landsc...
31 - Navigating Corporate Reputation, Inclusivity, and Authenticity with Abenaa Hayes 06.05.2025 53:29
In this episode of the Smart and Public Podcast, the Katies welcome Abenaa Hayes, Founder and CEO of Elysee Consulting. It won't take long in the episode for you to agree with us when we say that Abenaa AND her career are not only impressive, but incredibly interesting. Her experience in communications and brand spans across a wide range of companies - from start-ups to growth to established...
30 - PR-omance: How to build your dream PR agency / client relationship 29.04.2025 55:44
In this episode of the Smart in Public podcast, The Katies discuss the ins-and-outs of working with PR agencies, including the pros and cons of different agency types, best practices for finding the right agency, and how to build successful partnerships. We also delve into the RFP process, emphasizing the importance of communication and transparency in agency-client relationships. We have a tonne...
29 - Hot Take: Blue Origin 17.04.2025 35:45
It's a HOT TAKE BAY BEE! In this bonus episode of the Smart in Public podcast, the Katies slightly unravel talking about Blue Origin's recent space mission featuring an all-female crew. They unpacked the publicity leading up to the launch, how it aligned to Blue Origin's company mission, the media's reaction, the public backlash, and the implications of celebrity involvement in...
28 - Pitching with proof: how data storytelling gets audiences to listen 15.04.2025 48:35
In this episode of the Smart in Public podcast, the Katies discuss the significance of data storytelling across executive messaging, narrative creation, cross-functional campaign development, industry positioning, and public relations. They explore various types of data research, the importance of sample size, and how to effectively leverage data for storytelling and media engagement. The conversa...
27 - Turn storytelling programs into bottom line drivers with Cath Anderson 25.03.2025 44:51
In this episode of the Smart in Public podcast, the Katies welcome Cath Anderson to the pod to talk about narrative development, messaging, her board seat on Planned Parenthood, career breaks, and A LOT MORE. For those that don't know Cath, she's a comms powerhouse with two decades of experience working in corporate communications and marketing roles. She specializes in shaping company n...
26 - Enter your communications consultant era w/ Roberto Munoz, CEO Munoz Communications 18.03.2025 1:04:30
In episode 26, the Katie's welcome Roberto Munoz, CEO of Munoz Communications, to give our listeners a crash course in comms consulting. This episode comes at a time when we're seeing a flood of top communications talent leave the corporate world to become consultants, and Roberto is the perfect guest to help set anyone -- from the seasoned consultant to the consultant curious -- on the...
25 - Craft audience-first brand stories w/ Alexandra Whiting, Head of Content at The Memo 04.03.2025 1:01:08
In episode 25 of the Smart in Public Podcast, the Katies welcome Alexandra Whiting, Head of Content at The Memo, to chat through the world of content creators; brand messaging; and telling stories that will actually build a community. Of course, it wouldn't be like us to not get side tracked into the importance of other areas like the challenges of PR / media relationships and the unique appr...
24 - Navigating Corporate DEI Communications in 2025 18.02.2025 34:58
In episode 24 of Smart in Public, the Katies deliver an in-depth analysis of corporate Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) in today's business environment. This timely episode explores how companies are adapting their DEI strategies, the crucial role of communications teams in driving meaningful change, and strategies for maintaining authentic corporate values during shifting market dynami...
23 - From finance to tech: how Cheryl Sanclemente, CCO at Lattice, took her career from strength to strength 12.02.2025 56:09
In episode 23 of Smart in Public, the Katies sit down with Cheryl Sanclemente, Chief Communications Officer at Lattice, for a real-talk conversation about career development, mentorship, comms leaders on boards, the sentiment in HR tech during a time of massive layoffs across the industry, and age old question of work-life balance. Key Discussion Highlights: Career Transformation: Cheryl&apos...
22 - Unlock the Secrets of VC Communications with Allie Cefalo, Marketing Partner at Kleiner Perkins 04.02.2025 48:18
This week, the Katies are joined by Allie Cefalo, Marketing Partner at Kleiner Perkins, who shares her journey from leading global communications teams to running marketing for one of the world's best known Venture Capital firms. In this episode, you'll get a peek into the world of VC comms and the insider communications strategies. Discover how top VC firms support founders, craft compe...
21 - Master the message, the messenger, and the platform with Burson CEO Corey duBrowa 28.01.2025 54:14
In episode 21 of the Smart in Public podcast, Burson CEO Corey duBrowa shares insights as to how world of communications has transformed over the years and his predictions on where it's headed. Whether you're a comms leader (or any leader, really) that's building a team, working with an executive or founder, interested in transitioning from agency to in-house (or visa versa), trying...
20 - Land your dream job with Brooke Kruger, Founder of KC Partners 22.01.2025 37:14
Looking for a job in comms? Well it's your lucky day. This week, the Katies welcome Brooke Kruger, founder of KC Partners, to discuss the current hiring landscape in the communications field through the eyes of one of the industry's best comms recruiters. The conversation covers a broad range of job hunting, hiring, and interview tips including the importance of skills and education, car...
19 - Hot Take Episode: Meta & Meghan Markle 14.01.2025 43:30
In episode 19 of the Smart Public Podcast, the Katies discuss Meta's announcement led by Mark Zuckerberg and the implications of his messages on the company's reputation. They also debate on Meghan Markle's new show on Netflix and the challenges she faces in rebuilding her brand. The conversation highlights the complexities of communication strategies in today's media landscape...
18 - Build and lead a highly functioning team with Jane Hynes, VP of Communications for Google Cloud 08.01.2025 37:27
In episode 18, the Katies welcome special guest Jane Hynes, VP of Global Communications for Google Cloud for a masterclass in how to effectively build and lead highly functioning communication teams. If you're currently building a team or managing people managers for the first time, this episode is for you. Jane also shares candid insights about: Developing quotable, impactful messaging t...
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