Eric Jorgenson

Smart Friends

Business EN ↓ 124 episodes

Casual conversations with founders, technologists, investors, and artists about building a brighter future, together. Welcome to our digital living room.  With science, technology and entrepreneurship we can *continue* to create unfathomable leaps in quality of life. We show you how to find, apply, build, and invest in technologies to change your life and the world.  When we have smart friends, we do smart things. When we do smart things, we save the world.  No matter who, where, or when you are – now you have smart friends, too.  Outside this podcast, I’m the author of The Almanack of Naval R...

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Eric Jorgenson

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Business

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www.ejorgenson.com

Latest episode

Jun 16, 2026

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Episodes

#041 Devouring Founder’s Biographies, Self-Belief, and the Power of Podcasting with David Senra of Founders Podcast 28.06.2022

Topics:   (3:48) - David Hijacks the podcast: Eric’s Heroes, Munger as a copywriter and “Jeffisms”   (8:31) - How did you start Founders Pod and build it into a business?   (27:39) - How did you engrain this level of discipline in your craft?   (34:41) - Emulating Ed Thorpe   (43:59) - The power of podcasting   (50:43) - Eric and David discuss career goals   (57:46) - Thoughts on the ‘serial entre...

#040 Customer-Driven Products: How Brett Kopf built “Slack for Schools” and launched Omella 14.06.2022

Topics:   (7:11) - Brett’s earliest memories of his strengths   (9:58) - Understanding different skills and abilities   (13:36) - Brett’s early career   (18:08) - What was the moment of conception for Remind?   (26:03) - What were some pivotal moments early on?   (30:08) - How much did Twilio aid your growth?   (31:18) - What role did investor selection play into the success of Remind?   (35:00) -...

#039 Track Zach Marshall #3: 10x-ing your company in 4 Months 31.05.2022

(2:29) - How clear is the picture of how far you’ve come in the past 4 months? (3:27) - Recapping Track Zach #2 (10:36) - What are customers buying now and how have the service offerings changed? (20:06) - Do you know the bootstrapping process of these other industry marketplace products? (21:49) - How did you arrive at home security audit and family protection as the right first products to offer...

#038 Creative EA Delegation, the Corporation of You, and Personal Leverage with Robert Hayes and Chris Ho of Athena 17.05.2022

Topics: (4:56) - Chris’ background and work at Athena (6:53) - What does a Chief Client Officer do? (10:20) - Robert’s background and work at Athena (17:00) - Robert recruiting Chris to Athena (20:20) - What distinguishes Robert as an operator (25:02) - Robert’s first year with Athena and how the company has scaled  (33:39) - Chris’ decision to join Athena (37:28) - Creating a great experience for...

#037 Inside Buying & Selling Internet Businesses with Thomas Smale, Founder/CEO of FE International 03.05.2022

The sponsor for this week’s episode is Founders Podcast.   David Senra, the host of Founders Podcast, is a biography-reading machine. If you don’t have time to spend 40 hours reading the full-length biography of some gilded-age entrepreneur, listening to David’s high-quality recap is the next best thing. The Founders Podcast is a paid podcast that costs $99/year or $299 for lifetime access. Subscr...

#036 Rolling Fun #2: Q1 Portfolio Recap, Q2 Updates, Right Kind of Risks and more with Al Doan and Bo Fishback 26.04.2022

Topics:   (2:11) - Tech Gossip about Elon, Twitter & Fast    (9:26) - Q1 Portfolio Recap: Gently & Terran Robotics   (28:36) - Q2 Portfolio Update: Lumo, Stablegains   (43:05) - How listeners can help portfolio companies   (46:07) - Fund Updates   (51:29) - Explaining how quarterly investments work in the fund and deadlines   (53:01) - Reasons we passed on companies   Links:    Rolling. Fun   Gent...

#035 EA Delegating w/ Michelle Penczak: Founder of Squared Away - Military Spouses becoming Top Tier Virtual Assistants 19.04.2022

The sponsor for this week’s episode is Founders Podcast.   David Senra, the host of Founders Podcast, is a biography-reading machine. If you don’t have time to spend 40 hours reading the full-length biography of some gilded-age entrepreneur, listening to David’s high-quality recap is the next best thing. The Founders Podcast is a paid podcast that costs $99/year or $299 for lifetime access. Subscr...

#034 The Next Industrial Revolution w/ J. Storrs Hall: Nuclear Energy, AI and Nanotechnology 12.04.2022

The sponsor for this week’s episode is Founders Podcast.   David Senra, the host of Founders Podcast, is a biography-reading machine. If you don’t have time to spend 40 hours reading the full-length biography of some gilded-age entrepreneur, listening to David’s high-quality recap is the next best thing. The Founders Podcast is a paid podcast that costs $99/year or $299 for lifetime access. Subscr...

#033 Channeling Anger to Fix the Finance Industry with Deregulation, Technology, and Crypto with Zach Pettet 22.03.2022

The sponsor for this week’s episode is Founders Podcast.   David Senra, the host of Founders Podcast, is a biography-reading machine. If you don’t have time to spend 40 hours reading the full-length biography of some gilded-age entrepreneur, listening to David’s high-quality recap is the next best thing. The Founders Podcast is a paid podcast that costs $99/year or $299 for lifetime access. Subscr...

#032 Solocast #3: Nuclear, Nanotech, and the next Industrial Revolution (Book Recap: “Where is my Flying Car?”) 15.03.2022

Links:  Where Is My Flying Car? By J. Storrs Hall WTF Happened in 1971?   To support this costs of producing this podcast:  >> Buy a copy of the Navalmanak: www.navalmanack.com/  >> Sign up for my online course and community about building your Personal Leverage: https://www.ejorgenson.com/leverage  >> Invest in early-stage companies alongside Eric and his partners at Rolling Fun: https://angel.co...

#031 I’m Building an Early-Stage Fund with Al Doan and Bo Fishback (Rolling Fun #1) 08.03.2022

Links:  Rolling. Fun Alan Doan Bo Fishback Airtasker Lambda   Additional Episodes If You Enjoyed: Chris Powers: Starting a Real Estate Empire at 17, Focus, Podcast Flywheels Shane Mac: Building Messaging Protocol for Web3 (XMTP), Company Culture, and Scaling Trust   To support this costs of producing this podcast:  >> Buy a copy of the Navalmanak: www.navalmanack.com/  >> Sign up for my online cou...

#030 Self-reinvention & building leverage in podcasts with Chris Williamson 01.03.2022

Links:  Modern Wisdom Podcast Chris Williamson on Twitter Eric’s leverage course Jordan Peterson & Chris Williamson Podcast Mathew Fraser on Instagram Sky King on Twitter The School of Life Sam Harris Taylor Pearson Chris Sparks Aubrey Marcus, CEO of Onnit on what he would change about his life Essentialism by Greg McKeown The Psychology of Money by Morgan Housel Chasing Excellence by Ben Bergeron...

#029 Bringing Real Estate onto the Blockchain with Natalia Karayaneva & Adam Brown of Propy 22.02.2022

Links:  Propy NAR (National Association of Realtors) Natalia on Twitter Natalia on LinkedIn Adam on LinkedIn   Additional Episodes If You Enjoyed: Sean O’Connor: How Blockchain is Changing Society with Costless Transactions Shane Mac: Building Messaging Protocol for Web3 (XMTP), Company Culture, and Scaling Trust   To support this costs of producing this podcast:  >> Buy a copy of the Navalmanak:...

#028 Finding an edge in HR & Culture for growing Startups, with Jeannine Seidl of Density 15.02.2022

 During this conversation on Jorgenson’s Soundbox, I have my beautiful and brilliant fiancé Jeannine on as my guest, and we talk about all things HR, now known as the People Function or People Team in many organizations. Currently, Jeannine is leading the People Team at the startup Density, which has grown from 40 employees to 180 in the last year and a half. To start our discussion, I ask Jeannin...

#027 Finding the 100 highest-quality public businesses in the world with Will Oliver and Will Barnes, founders of In Practise 08.02.2022

Will Barnes and Will Oliver are two fantastic individuals I met through Latticework and got to know by bonding over our fandom of Charlie Munger. They are the co-founders of In Practise, a company that conducts interviews with executives and sells them to investors looking at the companies and building conviction in their portfolio. They conduct one-to-one interviews in pursuit of finding the best...

#026 Jason Hitchcock #2 w/ Four Moons: structuring a DeFi Fund, Liquid Staking & How to get involved in Web3 01.02.2022

This episode is a conversation about investing in the DeFi space with my previous podcast guest Jason Hitchcock and his partners of Four Moons Capital, Adam and Boz. They talk about how they all got together to form Four Moons and came to partner with Kingsley Capital to create a 100-million-dollar fund to be invested in DeFi. Throughout the conversation, we chat about some of their favorite token...

#025 Shane Mac: Building Messaging Protocol for Web3 (XMTP), Company Culture, and Scaling Trust 25.01.2022

In this episode of Jorgenson’s Soundbox, I continue exploring the world of web3 with my friend and former coworker Shane Mac. Shane is now the cofounder of XMTP, a decentralized and economic messaging protocol being built for web3. During our conversation, we talk about XMTP as a new protocol for building communication tools. We can spam-proof the next generation of the web! How Shane builds compa...

#024 SquidDAO: Web3 Project Deep-Dive: Part Crypto Hedge Fund, Part NFT DAO. An Anonymous Conspiracy for Mutual Enrichment 18.01.2022

SquidDAO is an “Economic Flywheel denominated in Ethereum.” What does that mean? Good question, I wondered too. It’s basically a conspiracy amongst anonymous people on the internet to make money together. And anyone can join! I dug in with a few members to see what it’s all about.  They sell NFTs, they issue tokens, they invest a treasury… they earn money! And they share it with token and NFT hold...

#023 Tim Hwang: Trade Journal Cooperative, Robot Lawyers, Bubble in Digital Ads, Zuck Being Quantitatively Weird, and Misinformation as Warfare 11.01.2022

Tim Hwang is the most interesting man on the internet. He runs a project called the Trade Journal Cooperative, which I've subscribed to for years. We talk about how the Trade Journal Cooperative got started it, how Tim *secretly* went to law school, and several other projects Tim is working on including an academic journal dedicated to bizarre images of Mark Zuckerberg. Thought that was all? That’...

#022 Solocast #2 - Web3 by a Winter Fire 04.01.2022

This week’s podcast is my second SoloCast, and during the episode, I share my thoughts and some predictions on the potential impacts and implementations of web3. The blockchain can be basically defined as a cryptographic breakthrough that allows for openness but with very careful editing permissions. While web1 resulted in costless publication and web2 in costless communication, web3 allows for co...

#021 Track Zach Marshall #2: Focusing on customers, building MVPs, and creating trust as a new startup. 28.12.2021

Welcome to the second episode of Track Zach, a series of quarterly podcast episodes in which we will be following Zach’s journey as he starts and scales his private security marketplace, Conterra. We will check in on how the previous goals Zach set are going, hear about what he’s learned and how he’s pivoted, and see what he is looking to accomplish in the next quarter in the huge, fragmented, and...

#020 Chris Powers: Starting A Real Estate Empire at 17, Focus, Podcast Flywheels 21.12.2021

In the last episode, we discussed alternative assets, and in this episode, we take a deep dive into the career of Chris Powers, the master of one specific alternative asset: real estate. Chris began his real estate career when he was just 17 years old and has spent the last 17 years building Fort Capital, a real estate firm in Fort Worth, Texas. Chris was a hungry 17-year-old, just showed up at co...

#019 Phil Huber: Crazy Alternative Assets, Crypto for Financial Advisors & the Book Writing 14.12.2021

In this week’s episode, I talk with Phil Huber, the Chief Investment Officer at Savant Wealth Management and author of the new book The Allocator’s Edge. This episode does not include financial advice.* Rather, we talk about the advice Phil gives other people about their finances and the book he wrote about financial advice. We begin the episode with a discussion about financial advising and what...

#018 Bram Kanstein: Effing around on the internet - MicroStartups, Crypto/NFT’s & Course Building. 07.12.2021

Bram Kanstein has become a professional at fucking around on the internet. He has built dozens of products, three of which he successfully sold, and he previously spent time working for a VC and Product Hunt. We dive right into talking about Startup Stash, which is listed as the number one product on Product Hunt. Startup Stash is described as a curated directory of resources and tools for startup...

#017 Chris Sparks: High-stakes Poker, the training regimen of a world-class mental athlete, and coaching the top 0.01% 30.11.2021

Chris says he isn’t the best poker player in the world, but he may be the most profitable.  Pro poker player Chris Sparks is training for the highest-stakes tournament he has ever played in after a long sabbatical. He says he has already decided he is going to win, and now he is doing the necessary things to create that outcome. What is the dynamic amongst poker friends? Chris says “frenemies” – a...

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