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After the Trump administration launched a massive Immigrations and Customs Enforcement operation in Minnesota, protesters gathered to defend immigrant neighbors. Renee Nicole Good, a mother of a six year old, showed up with her wife and dog to film altercations between officers and community members. What happened next changed everything.  Guest: Jon Collins, senior reporter on the Minnesota Public Radio News race, class and communities team. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subsc...

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Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts - Yes, Supreme Court Decisions Really Matter 28.02.2026

“Not on the level” is how Donald Verrilli Jr. describes the Trump administration’s general, current Supreme Court practices. The former United States Solicitor General joins Dahlia Lithwick to discuss the ways this radical new posture is forcing judges to confront arguments and asserted powers previously seen as far beyond presidential authority, while still trying not to shift excessive power to...

What Next - SchadenFriday: The Olympic Curler Who Called Out Trump 27.02.2026

Training for the Olympics is a Sisyphean task, but if you’re a curler, pushing a rock is kind of your thing. And who knows? Your big break might come in your 50s. Guest: Rich Ruohonen, Minnesota curler (and lawyer) who represented the US in the 2026 Winter Olympics.  This episode is member-exclusive. Listen to it now by subscribing to Slate Plus. By joining, not only will you unlock exclusive...

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - Anthropic vs. the Pentagon 27.02.2026

The Pentagon wants Anthropic to hand over its A.I. with no strings attached. Anthropic doesn’t want its products used to surveil Americans or create autonomous machines of war.  Naturally, the Pentagon is mad - so mad, they’re threatening to invoke the Defense Production Act against them. But who has more leverage here?  Guest: Sheera Frenkel, reporter for the New York Times  Want m...

Political Gabfest - The State of the Union is Endless 26.02.2026

This week, Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz discuss whether Trump’s State of the Union address effectively convinced voters to ignore the pain in their wallets because he says he’s “winning” the economy, how the Supreme Court finally stood up to the president on something he really cares about, and the Pentagon’s ominous ultimatum against AI company Anthropic. For this week’s Slate P...

What Next - How Hockey Got Drafted into the Culture Wars 26.02.2026

The gay romance show Heated Rivalry brought an influx of attention to hockey, and gold-medal winning performances from both the women’s and men’s American teams seemed to be priming the NHL for a fresh, diverse group of fans. Then Kash Patel showed up in the men’s locker room. Guest:  Frankie de la Cretaz , writer at the intersection of sports, gender, culture, and queerness, author of Hail M...

What Next - Mexico’s Cartel War 25.02.2026

With President Trump’s urging and support from CIA drones, Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum’s more confrontational approach to the drug cartels culminated in the death of “El Mencho,” the most wanted man in both Mexico and the United States.  Guest: León Krauze , Mexican journalist and author covering politics and the cartels.  Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad...

What Next - She's Skipping the State of the Union 24.02.2026

Why a number of Congressional Democrats are skipping tonight’s State of the Union address—and why some are still going. Guest:  Congresswoman Veronica Escobar , representing Texas's 16th Congressional District in El Paso. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple...

What Next - Does Legal Immigration Still Exist? 23.02.2026

Counter to claims that immigrants just need to come to America “the right way,” DHS has begun using the department that administers legal immigration to arrest, detain, and deport people—including those who are following the law. Guest: Jonathan Blitzer, staff writer at the New Yorker and author of Everyone Who Is Gone Is Here: The United States, Central America, and the Making of a Crisis . Want...

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - The Future of Retail is A.I. 22.02.2026

You might not think you need artificial intelligence added to your shopping experience. Store employees might not see the point either. So why is it there anyway? Guest: Mia Sato , reporter at The Verge who covers tech companies, platforms, and users. Want more What Next TBD? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and all your favorite Slate podcasts. Sub...

Slate Money - Planet Money In Book Form! 21.02.2026

This week: Beloved NPR podcast Planet Money is now a book too! Author and Planet Money contributor Alex Mayyasi joins Felix Salmon , Elizabeth Spiers , and Emily Peck to give us a peek into the upcoming Planet Money: A Guide to the Economic Forces That Shape Your Life . Pulling from their favorite chapters of the book, the hosts get into how Argentina’s attempt to foster manufacturing mirrors Trum...

Political Gabfest - Gabfest Reads | From Busboy to Corporate Tool to Priest 21.02.2026

John Dickerson talks with Father James Martin about his new book, Work in Progress: Confessions of a Busboy, Dishwasher, Caddy, Usher, Factory Worker, Bank Teller, Corporate Tool, and Priest . They discuss the spiritual lessons learned through eight different jobs, Martin's controversial LGBTQ ministry that made him a target of criticism within the Catholic Church, and what the Gospels demand abou...

Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts - Trump’s Tariffs Overturned 21.02.2026

The Supreme Court struck down Donald Trump’s sweeping tariffs on Friday, ruling 6–3 that they vastly exceed anything federal law allows a President to do. It was a massive loss for a signature component of Trump’s economic agenda, and a coalition of liberals and conservatives on the court agreed that the statute invoked to impose these tariffs was never intended to be wielded in this fashion. The...

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - The A.I. Disruption Is Here 20.02.2026

Tech companies proudly touting that the imminent artificial intelligence revolution are pushing the stock market to ever higher heights, even as workers wonder what their role will be in this brave new world. But outside of the big A.I. players, the rest of the market seems to be wondering the same thing. Guest: Emily Peck, co-host of Slate Money and national correspondent at Axios. Want more What...

Political Gabfest - Prince-No-More Andrew Pays His Epstein Price 19.02.2026

This week, Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz discuss the public figures being shamed and punished for their associations with Jeffrey Epstein while others remain unscathed, the insights and lessons revealed by a new oral history archive and interview with former President Obama, and the meaning of the Trump administration’s efforts to whitewash history. For this week’s Slate Plus bonu...

What Next - Preview: Epstein, the Ex-Prince, and Consequences 19.02.2026

Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor, formerly Prince Andrew, was arrested after a release of Epstein files revealed he had allegedly shared confidential trade reports with the financier.  Guest: Imogen West-Knights , Slate contributing writer. This episode is member-exclusive. Listen to it now by subscribing to Slate Plus. By joining, not only will you unlock exclusive episodes of What Next —you’ll al...

What Next - Stephen Colbert Vs. CBS 19.02.2026

From the hundreds of Washington Post staffers fired, to Anderson Cooper leaving 60 Minutes, to Stephen Colbert and his own network fighting in public, Trump’s return to the White House is transforming legacy media into something less antagonistic to power—but also less capable of fulfilling its own self-described mission. Guest: Oliver Darcy, journalist behind the Status substack . Want more What...

What Next - What Even Is Trump’s “Board of Peace”? 18.02.2026

Trump’s “Board of Peace” emerged from last year’s ceasefire negotiations to govern Gaza after the war. But since then, the board has evolved into a motley group of countries that are willing to pay a billion dollars to join a body that has Donald Trump as its chairman for life. They also have mostly stopped talking about Gaza. Guest:  Gregg Carlstom , Middle East Correspondent at The Economis...

What Next - Is She New Jersey’s AOC? 17.02.2026

An activist and former political director for Bernie Sander’s presidential campaign shocked the field by winning a primary for a special congressional election. Now the favorite to win the solidly blue district, she’s actually excited to work with congressional moderates—and to keep pushing them. Guest: Analilia Mejía , Democratic nominee for New Jersey's 11th congressional district special electi...

Slate Money - Money Talks: The Business of Black Markets 17.02.2026

In this Money Talks: Felix Salmon is joined by journalist Mariana van Zeller , who has spent years reporting on black and gray markets around the world and has a new podcast, The Hidden Third , that delves into these powerful underground economies. They’ll get into what Mariana has seen embedded with criminal operators, from the surprisingly mundane to the darker side of working outside the system...

What Next - Kids Sports Are Now Adult Driven—And Incredibly Expensive 16.02.2026

Youth sports have grown into a $40-billion dollar per year industry, where eager parents shell out for private coaches, off-season practice, and travel leagues, in the hopes of giving their child a competitive edge.  Guest:  Anna North, senior correspondent at Vox. She writes Kids Today, a newsletter about kids. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to...

What Next - Trump Can’t Ruin These Olympics 15.02.2026

The Olympics are touted as a moment for the world to come together and celebrate sport and achievement and check their politics at the door—yeah right. Guest:  Justin Peters , Slate correspondent currently covering the 2026 Milano-Cortina Winter Olympics and author of The Idealist: Aaron Swartz and the Rise of Free Culture on the Internet .  Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus t...

Slate Money - 100 More Years of Google 14.02.2026

This week: Alphabet announced a rare 100-year bond issuance.  Felix Salmon , Elizabeth Spiers , and Emily Peck , explain the calculation the tech giant is making here and how the market responded to the move. Then, an analysis from the NY Fed has concluded that most of the burden of Trump’s tariff hikes is on US households and the hosts debate the possible pros – and obvious cons – of this sn...

Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts - The Concentration Camp Next Door 14.02.2026

The machinery to enable Stephen Miller’s darkest deportation dreams is both tangible and legal. In this week’s show, Dahlia Lithwick explores the statutory and regulatory foundations of the Trump administration’s expanding network of detention camps, plus the historical background of the vast warehouse system they are using to imprison tens of thousands of migrants. First, she speaks with Linus Ch...

What Next - SchadenFriday: The Week MAGA Turned Cringe 13.02.2026

There was a moment, when the tech CEOs and media moguls were lining up to kiss Trump’s ring, when it looked like almost all the demographic arrows were pointing right, where it looked like Trumpism was, if not widely embraced, at least too big to be written off. After a year of Trump back in office, the culture cries out for Woke 2.0. Guest: Brian Beutler, founder of Off-Message . This episode is...

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - The Senator Going After Data Centers 13.02.2026

Data centers are a hot issue - tech companies say they need them, but communities don’t want to be anywhere near them. Senator Van Hollen stops by the show to share his plan to address the rising costs of energy for consumers that data centers create, as well as his thoughts on ICE and the future of the Democratic Party.  Guest: Senator Chris Van Hollen of Maryland Want more What Next TBD? Su...

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