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After the Trump administration launched a massive Immigrations and Customs Enforcement operation in Minnesota, protesters gathered to defend immigrant neighbors. Renee Nicole Good, a mother of a six year old, showed up with her wife and dog to film altercations between officers and community members. What happened next changed everything.  Guest: Jon Collins, senior reporter on the Minnesota Public Radio News race, class and communities team. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subsc...

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Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts - “Is This How We Do Law Now?” 17.12.2022

The highest court in the land has ignored the need for standing, the trial record, and of course precedent this past year––and it matters.  Host Dahlia Lithwick is joined by Sherrilyn Ifill, former president and director-counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund, and a senior fellow at the Ford Foundation. They discuss Sherrilyn’s thought-provoking piece this month in the New York Re...

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - SBF's Worst Week Yet 16.12.2022

Even in a crazy year for crypto, Sam Bankman-Fried’s story is undeniably the most bananas. And even in the context of the implosion of FTX, getting arrested has got to make this week his worst yet. What charges does SBF face? Guest: Stacy-Marie Ishmael , managing editor on crypto for Bloomberg News Host: Lizzie O’Leary Sponsored by Saks.com. Check out the Holiday Gift Guide on  saks.com Hosted on...

Political Gabfest - Is Kyrsten Sinema Toast? 15.12.2022

This week, David Plotz, Emily Bazelon, and John Dickerson discuss Krysten Sinema leaving the Democratic party; Republicans’ good turnout, poor performance midterms; and the new documentary, Pelosi in The House .   Here are some notes and references from this week’s show:   Pelosi in the House Here are this week’s chatters: John: Watch Richard Nixon’s Watergate speeches at the Miller Center’s websi...

What Next - Germany Cribs From the QAnon Playbook 15.12.2022

The Reichsbürger movement is the group behind the plot to overthrow the German government that was disrupted last week. Their grievances are both specific to their country—that the German government is illegitimate and the Reich needs to be reestablished—and familiar to right-wing extremist watchers in the U.S.. They have been radicalized by lockdowns, vaccine requirements, and Qanon. How is this...

What Next - Inside the Right-Wing Judicial Machine 14.12.2022

Since its founding in the 1980s, the Federalist Society has been advancing right-wing judges through the American judicial system. One of their most ardent critics called up a member to talk about how. Guest: Mark Joseph Stern , Slate senior writer. If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes...

What Next - The Magic of Messi 13.12.2022

Argentina and Croatia face off in the World Cup semifinals today, and all eyes are on Lionel Messi. At 35, Messi is trying to put a cap on a legendary career and bring a World Cup championship to his home country.  How did he get to the top of the soccer world? And what will be his legacy if Argentina loses? Guest: Jasmine Garsd Garcia , host of NPR’s soccer podcast “ The Last Cup .”  If you enjoy...

What Next - The Last Time NYC Tried to Hospitalize the Homeless 12.12.2022

In an effort to address New York’s growing problem of unhoused people living on the streets, Mayor Eric Adams announced that the city would start involuntarily hospitalizing people. It’s a strategy the city tried back in the ‘80s as well. Why didn’t it work then? Guest: Sam Tsemberis , founder and executive director of Pathways to Housing, and associate clinical professor of Psychiatry and Biobeha...

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - San Francisco’s Self-Driving Mess 11.12.2022

Self-driving cars and robotaxis are starting to appear on the streets of San Francisco. While we have a whole regulatory system in place for drivers, who’s making sure these new cars are safe? Guest: David Zipper , Visiting Fellow at the Harvard Kennedy School's Taubman Center for State and Local Government Host: Lizzie O’Leary If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Sla...

Slate Money - The NYT Strike: End of the Wordle Streak 10.12.2022

This week, Felix Salmon , Emily Peck , and Elizabeth Spiers talk about the Trump Organization’s tax fraud conviction, why workers at The New York Times went on strike and ChatGPT, a shockingly articulate AI chatbot.   In the Plus segment: How to tackle holiday gifting.   Podcast production by Anna Phillips. Thanks  Avast.com ! Learn more about Avast One at  Avast.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com...

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - Let’s Talk, Chatbots 09.12.2022

Artificial intelligence is growing in leaps and bounds, and everywhere from Big Tech companies like Google to small teams like OpenAI are developing more and more convincing chatbots. Is the world ready for convincing, talking computers?  Guest: Alex Kantrowitz , host of the Big Technology podcast. Host: Emily Peck If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus membe...

Political Gabfest - Can We Stop Talking About Georgia Now? 09.12.2022

This week, David Plotz, Emily Bazelon, and John Dickerson discuss Raphael Warnock beating Herschel Walker, and oral arguments at the Supreme Court in the anti-gay marriage website designer case and the “independent state legislature” election case.   Here are some notes and references from this week’s show: Fr. James Martin, S.J. for Outreach: “ When Is Religious Liberty A Fig Leaf For Homophobia?...

What Next - Can Iran's Protest Movement Survive? 08.12.2022

Toomaj Salehi, an Iranian rapper known for criticizing the regime with his music, has been arrested by the Iranian government. His friends and family now worry he could face the death penalty.  Guest: Nahayat Tizhoosh , Producer at the CBC. If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows...

What Next - What It Took for a Red State to Pause Executions 07.12.2022

Three botched lethal injections in Alabama have once again highlighted the practical complexity and possible illegality of the death penalty. Even states that are adamantly in favor of capital punishment are being stalled on a purely pragmatic level.  Guest: Elizabeth Bruenig, staff writer at The Atlantic If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get ben...

What Next - The Last Senate Race 06.12.2022

Even after a campaign awash in scandals, gaffes, and the occasional speculation on werewolves vs. vampires, Herschel Walker still can’t be counted out in the run-off election to represent Georgia in the U.S. Senate. What can the parties take away from the last race of the 2022 midterms?  Guest: Jim Newell , Senior Politics Writer for Slate . If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for S...

What Next - Out of Afghanistan 05.12.2022

The U.S. has welcomed thousands Afghan refugees since pulling out of Afghanistan in 2021. Safe from the Taliban, but without social security numbers,credit ratings, or even sometimes basic English, they have to make a new life relying on a patchwork of volunteers and their wits.   Guests: Elena MacFarlane , volunteer with the  Immigrant and Refugee Outreach Center  and assistant Professor in the J...

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - Big Tech’s Boogeymen In Washington 04.12.2022

The Biden administration’s Department of Justice and Federal Trade Commission are both staffed with accomplished progressives who are proving more aggressive than their predecessors in either the Trump or Obama eras. But can Big Tech be tamed? Guest: Leah Nylen , reporter for Bloomberg News  Host: Lizzie O’Leary If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members...

Slate Money - The Tale of Two Bobs 03.12.2022

This week, Felix Salmon , Emily Peck , and Elizabeth Spiers talk about the CEO shakeup at Disney, shrinkflation, and Sam Bankman-Fried’s unusual post-scandal media appearances.   In the Plus segment: the controversy over Balenciaga’s new ad campaign.   Podcast production by Anna Phillips. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts - The Blockbuster Case You Probably Haven’t Heard About 03.12.2022

When Christian conservatives lost in Masterpiece Cake Shop back in 2018, they regrouped and picked up the trail of breadcrumbs from Justice Clarence Thomas’ dissent that suggested a freedom of speech approach. Next week, the Supreme Court will hear arguments in 303 Creative v Elenis - another case that takes aim at Colorado’s anti discrimination laws. This time, arguments about whether a website d...

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - Twitter's Vulnerabilities, Exposed 02.12.2022

Dating back to the Arab Spring, Twitter’s potential for real-time organizing has been a selling point. But trying to find information on China’s “Zero COVID” protests reveals just how vulnerable the now-understaffed platform is to manipulation. Guest: Joseph Menn , cybersecurity reporter for the Washington Post .  Host: Lizzie O’Leary If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Pl...

Political Gabfest - Is Antisemitism Back? 01.12.2022

This week, David Plotz, Emily Bazelon, and John Dickerson discuss Trump hosting prominent antisemites Ye (f/k/a Kanye West) and Nick Fuentes; Chinese protestors challenging their authoritarian government–with Sheena Chestnut Greitens; and Congress legislating to protect marriage equality through the Respect For Marriage Act.   Here are some notes and references from this week’s show: Sheena Chestn...

What Next - China’s Revolt Against “Zero COVID” 01.12.2022

For nearly three years, people in China have endured their government’s “Zero COVID” policies to prevent cases from overwhelming their hospital system. But after a fire in Urumqi broke out and videos spread of fire rescue having trouble reaching the building, people have taken to the streets in defiance of orders and even gone as far as demanding President Xi Jinping’s resignation.  Guest: Matthew...

What Next - It Isn't Time to Negotiate in Ukraine...Yet 30.11.2022

With no clear path to advance and winter settling in, what would it take for Russia to negotiate an exit from Ukraine? Guest: Fred Kaplan . Slate’s war stories correspondent If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Amicus—and you’ll be supporting the work we do h...

What Next - Is This the End of College Rankings? 29.11.2022

With Yale and Harvard law schools withdrawing from U.S. News & World Report’s annual law school rankings, others have followed suit. With the rating system for all colleges taking criticism, being “gamed,” and beset by scandal, is this the beginning of the end of the influential college-ranking system? Guest: Colin Diver, the Charles A. Heimbold, Jr., Professor of Law and Economics Emeritus at...

What Next - Hakeem Jeffries’ House 28.11.2022

Hakeem Jeffries appears set to take over as Nancy Pelosi steps down as the head of the House Democrats. As a member of the Progressive Caucus who has often sided against progressives with party leadership, what will the House Democrats look like with Jefferies at the helm?  Guest: Alex Sammon , politics writer at Slate. If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus...

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - The Trap of Buy Now, Pay Later 27.11.2022

The option to “buy now and pay later” over installments exploded over the past two years, thanks to people being flush with stimulus cash and shopping online during the pandemic. But is this new, underregulated industry a useful line of credit or another path into debt? Guest: Paulina Cachero , personal finance reporter for Bloomberg . Host: Lizzie O’Leary If you enjoy this show, please consider s...

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