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After the Trump administration launched a massive Immigrations and Customs Enforcement operation in Minnesota, protesters gathered to defend immigrant neighbors. Renee Nicole Good, a mother of a six year old, showed up with her wife and dog to film altercations between officers and community members. What happened next changed everything.  Guest: Jon Collins, senior reporter on the Minnesota Public Radio News race, class and communities team. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subsc...

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Political Gabfest - Can We Stop Talking About Georgia Now? 09.12.2022

This week, David Plotz, Emily Bazelon, and John Dickerson discuss Raphael Warnock beating Herschel Walker, and oral arguments at the Supreme Court in the anti-gay marriage website designer case and the “independent state legislature” election case.   Here are some notes and references from this week’s show: Fr. James Martin, S.J. for Outreach: “ When Is Religious Liberty A Fig Leaf For Homophobia?...

What Next - Can Iran's Protest Movement Survive? 08.12.2022

Toomaj Salehi, an Iranian rapper known for criticizing the regime with his music, has been arrested by the Iranian government. His friends and family now worry he could face the death penalty.  Guest: Nahayat Tizhoosh , Producer at the CBC. If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows...

What Next - What It Took for a Red State to Pause Executions 07.12.2022

Three botched lethal injections in Alabama have once again highlighted the practical complexity and possible illegality of the death penalty. Even states that are adamantly in favor of capital punishment are being stalled on a purely pragmatic level.  Guest: Elizabeth Bruenig, staff writer at The Atlantic If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get ben...

What Next - The Last Senate Race 06.12.2022

Even after a campaign awash in scandals, gaffes, and the occasional speculation on werewolves vs. vampires, Herschel Walker still can’t be counted out in the run-off election to represent Georgia in the U.S. Senate. What can the parties take away from the last race of the 2022 midterms?  Guest: Jim Newell , Senior Politics Writer for Slate . If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for S...

What Next - Out of Afghanistan 05.12.2022

The U.S. has welcomed thousands Afghan refugees since pulling out of Afghanistan in 2021. Safe from the Taliban, but without social security numbers,credit ratings, or even sometimes basic English, they have to make a new life relying on a patchwork of volunteers and their wits.   Guests: Elena MacFarlane , volunteer with the  Immigrant and Refugee Outreach Center  and assistant Professor in the J...

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - Big Tech’s Boogeymen In Washington 04.12.2022

The Biden administration’s Department of Justice and Federal Trade Commission are both staffed with accomplished progressives who are proving more aggressive than their predecessors in either the Trump or Obama eras. But can Big Tech be tamed? Guest: Leah Nylen , reporter for Bloomberg News  Host: Lizzie O’Leary If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members...

Slate Money - The Tale of Two Bobs 03.12.2022

This week, Felix Salmon , Emily Peck , and Elizabeth Spiers talk about the CEO shakeup at Disney, shrinkflation, and Sam Bankman-Fried’s unusual post-scandal media appearances.   In the Plus segment: the controversy over Balenciaga’s new ad campaign.   Podcast production by Anna Phillips. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts - The Blockbuster Case You Probably Haven’t Heard About 03.12.2022

When Christian conservatives lost in Masterpiece Cake Shop back in 2018, they regrouped and picked up the trail of breadcrumbs from Justice Clarence Thomas’ dissent that suggested a freedom of speech approach. Next week, the Supreme Court will hear arguments in 303 Creative v Elenis - another case that takes aim at Colorado’s anti discrimination laws. This time, arguments about whether a website d...

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - Twitter's Vulnerabilities, Exposed 02.12.2022

Dating back to the Arab Spring, Twitter’s potential for real-time organizing has been a selling point. But trying to find information on China’s “Zero COVID” protests reveals just how vulnerable the now-understaffed platform is to manipulation. Guest: Joseph Menn , cybersecurity reporter for the Washington Post .  Host: Lizzie O’Leary If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Pl...

Political Gabfest - Is Antisemitism Back? 01.12.2022

This week, David Plotz, Emily Bazelon, and John Dickerson discuss Trump hosting prominent antisemites Ye (f/k/a Kanye West) and Nick Fuentes; Chinese protestors challenging their authoritarian government–with Sheena Chestnut Greitens; and Congress legislating to protect marriage equality through the Respect For Marriage Act.   Here are some notes and references from this week’s show: Sheena Chestn...

What Next - China’s Revolt Against “Zero COVID” 01.12.2022

For nearly three years, people in China have endured their government’s “Zero COVID” policies to prevent cases from overwhelming their hospital system. But after a fire in Urumqi broke out and videos spread of fire rescue having trouble reaching the building, people have taken to the streets in defiance of orders and even gone as far as demanding President Xi Jinping’s resignation.  Guest: Matthew...

What Next - It Isn't Time to Negotiate in Ukraine...Yet 30.11.2022

With no clear path to advance and winter settling in, what would it take for Russia to negotiate an exit from Ukraine? Guest: Fred Kaplan . Slate’s war stories correspondent If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Amicus—and you’ll be supporting the work we do h...

What Next - Is This the End of College Rankings? 29.11.2022

With Yale and Harvard law schools withdrawing from U.S. News & World Report’s annual law school rankings, others have followed suit. With the rating system for all colleges taking criticism, being “gamed,” and beset by scandal, is this the beginning of the end of the influential college-ranking system? Guest: Colin Diver, the Charles A. Heimbold, Jr., Professor of Law and Economics Emeritus at...

What Next - Hakeem Jeffries’ House 28.11.2022

Hakeem Jeffries appears set to take over as Nancy Pelosi steps down as the head of the House Democrats. As a member of the Progressive Caucus who has often sided against progressives with party leadership, what will the House Democrats look like with Jefferies at the helm?  Guest: Alex Sammon , politics writer at Slate. If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus...

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - The Trap of Buy Now, Pay Later 27.11.2022

The option to “buy now and pay later” over installments exploded over the past two years, thanks to people being flush with stimulus cash and shopping online during the pandemic. But is this new, underregulated industry a useful line of credit or another path into debt? Guest: Paulina Cachero , personal finance reporter for Bloomberg . Host: Lizzie O’Leary If you enjoy this show, please consider s...

Slate Money - Fleishman is in Trouble 26.11.2022

 This week, Felix Salmon , Emily Peck , and Elizabeth Spiers are joined by New York Times Magazine writer and Fleishman is in Trouble author Taffy Brodesser-Akner to talk about wealth, class and the media industry, specifically through the lens of the Fleishman is in Trouble book and new limited TV series.   In the Plus segment: what is everyone thankful for this Thanksgiving?   Podcast production...

Political Gabfest - What If Twitter Dies? 24.11.2022

This week, David Plotz, Emily Bazelon, and John Dickerson discuss the future of Twitter, the ghoulish World Cup, and a minister’s allegation that Justice Alito leaked the outcome of the Hobby Lobby case. Here are some notes and references from this week’s show: Jodi Kantor and Jo Becker for The New York Times: “ Former Anti-Abortion Leader Alleges Another Supreme Court Breach ” Jodi Kantor for The...

Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts - Religious Liberty and the Right to Vacation in Jackson Hole 23.11.2022

When the New York Times built on previous reporting in Politico and Rolling Stone  about an evangelical christian ministry that sought to sell access to and influence Supreme Court Justices with fancy dinners and donations, the Hobby Lobby leak dominated the headlines. But there is so much more to this story. To discuss how the headlines fit into a larger narrative of dark money and a captured cou...

What Next - Ticketmaster's Swift Meltdown 23.11.2022

When presale tickets for Taylor Swift’s upcoming tour effectively broke the internet last week, Ticketmaster emerged as the villain…again. The media behemoth has been reviled since the ‘90s, but it has continued to grow, through a merger with Live Nation. What can a Department of Justice antitrust investigation, buoyed by Swifties, actually do?  Guest: Jason Koebler , editor-in-chief of Motherboar...

What Next - Why Outlawing Slavery Won't Outlaw Slavery—Yet 22.11.2022

During the 2022 midterms, four states voted to ban slavery, which is still legal—and practiced—in the form of forced prison labor. The ballot initiatives are designed to keep people from having to work against their will and could provide prisoners with the opportunity to sue for higher wages, and better working conditions, including medical exemptions for those who are pregnant and postpartum.  G...

What Next - The Real Danger of Fentanyl 21.11.2022

Fentanyl has been a right-wing boogeyman and ostensible reason for Republicans to rail for more security at the U.S.-Mexico border. As the opioid crisis continues, the danger fentanyl poses has become vividly clear. While stopping overdoses is important, resurfacing nasty drug war tropes isn’t helping.  Guest: Brian Mann , NPR correspondent covering addiction If you enjoy this show, please conside...

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - The End of the Tech Boom 20.11.2022

After decades as America’s booming industry, tens of thousands of tech workers have been laid off in November alone. Is the venture-capital, low-interest-rate wind leaving the sails temporary or is this the end of the hunt for “the next big thing?” Guest: Timothy B. Lee , reporter for Full Stack Economics covering labor markets, technology, and housing. Host: Lizzie O’Leary If you enjoy this show,...

Slate Money - Enron 2 19.11.2022

This week, Felix Salmon , Emily Peck , and Elizabeth Spiers discuss updates in the collapse of crypto exchange platform FTX and how the situation compares to past business downfalls. They also talk about Joan Didion’s estate sale.   In the Plus segment: the death of Twitter.   Podcast production by Anna Phillips. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Political Gabfest - Gabfest Reads: Rethinking J. Edgar Hoover 19.11.2022

Emily Bazelon talks with author Beverly Gage about her new book,  G-Man: J. Edgar Hoover and the Making of the American Century , a detailed account of the life of the first FBI Director, J. Edgar Hoover. They discuss Hoover’s hostile relationship with Martin Luther King Jr., why he should have quit at the end of the 1950s, and how Hoover’s childhood shaped his reign [MOU1] as director.  Tweet us...

Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts - When You Take Away the Kids, You Take Away the Future 19.11.2022

“A Kitchen Sink Approach to Constitutional Claims” On this week’s Amicus, - the case that threatens the Indian Child Welfare Act, but also threatens domino effects on tribal sovereignty and land rights. Dahlia Lithwick is joined by Rebecca Nagle, a Cherokee writer, advocate & language learner. Nagle is host of This Land podcast . Season 2 of the podcast was a deep and broad investigation into...

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