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After the Trump administration launched a massive Immigrations and Customs Enforcement operation in Minnesota, protesters gathered to defend immigrant neighbors. Renee Nicole Good, a mother of a six year old, showed up with her wife and dog to film altercations between officers and community members. What happened next changed everything.  Guest: Jon Collins, senior reporter on the Minnesota Public Radio News race, class and communities team. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subsc...

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What Next - Congress Wants to Know: Do Aliens Exist? | 2023 In Review 27.12.2023

While the What Next team spends some time with their families this week, we revisit some of 2023’s biggest, strangest, and best stories. Regularly scheduled programming resumes Jan. 2. In a recent public hearing, three government officials told Congress that not only are “unidentified anomalous phenomena” real, they’re a major national security concern. But one witness took his testimony even furt...

What Next - Wait, China’s Taking Our Pandas Back? | 2023 In Review 26.12.2023

While the What Next team spends some time with their families this week, we revisit some of 2023’s biggest, strangest, and best stories. Regularly scheduled programming resumes Jan. 2. Everybody loves pandas—and China knows it. As we say goodbye to the National Zoo’s pandas, we look back at 50 years of “panda diplomacy” and consider its uncertain future. Guest: E. Elena Songster, author of Panda N...

What Next - The Plot Against Pope Francis | 2023 In Review 25.12.2023

While the What Next team spends some time with their families this week, we revisit some of 2023’s biggest, strangest, and best stories. Regularly scheduled programming resumes Jan. 2. Not all of the Cardinals who elected Pope Francis are pleased with the changes he’s made, or his vision for where the Catholic Church goes next. Both the 86-year-old Francis and his detractors are preparing for his...

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - Stephen King Is Just as Confused About Blue Checks as You Are | 2023 In Review 24.12.2023

While the What Next: TBD team spends some time with their families during the holidays, we revisit some of 2023’s biggest, strangest, and best stories. Regularly scheduled programming resumes in January. Twitter’s “blue check” verification went from something you applied for, to something you could pay for, to something you had to pay for…to something that many celebrities wouldn’t even accept for...

Political Gabfest - Gabfest Reads: A Woman’s Life in Museum Wall Labels 23.12.2023

John Dickerson talks with author Christine Coulson about her new book, “One Woman Show.” They discuss the moment that inspired Coulson to tell a story in museum wall labels, her 25-years working at the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York, and why restraint can be an artist’s best friend.  Tweet us your questions  @SlateGabfest  or email us at  gabfest@slate.com . (Messages could be quoted by na...

Slate Money - Our Surprisingly Great Year 23.12.2023

This week, Felix Salmon , Emily Peck , and guest host Edmund Lee , media reporter for the New York Times, recap the 2023 economic year, which saw strong growth, reduced inflation, and soaring stocks. Also: What a potential Warner Bros.-Paramount merger means for the entertainment business, and why a growing number of pedestrians are being killed by cars at night. In the Plus segment: Can the news...

What Next - FT News Briefing: Markets, Elections, and A.I. in 2024 23.12.2023

From our friends at Financial Times's FT News Briefing: The FT’s Peter Spiegel, Katie Martin and Elaine Moore preview what could happen in geopolitics, markets and artificial intelligence in 2024.  Listen to the FT News Briefing podcast every Monday through Friday here:   https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ft-news-briefing/id1438449989 The FT News Briefing is produced by Fiona Symon, Sonja Huts...

Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts - The Many Trials of Donald J. Trump 23.12.2023

This week, the Colorado Supreme Court determined in a pivotal decision that Donald J Trump should not appear on the ballot in the state's Republican primary. Meanwhile the high court is already involved in the possible briefing of another Trump case (about presidential immunity) and has agreed to docket another involving the obstruction of the vote certification on Jan 6 2021. And we haven’t even...

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - Can Hybrid Cars Save Us? 22.12.2023

Without infrastructure to support all-electric vehicles, consumers have increasingly embraced the hybrid. The lower emissions are good—but are they slowing down our transition into an electric future?  Guest: Patrick George, editor-in-chief of InsideEVs.com, contributor to The Atlantic and The Verge. If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits...

Political Gabfest - Trump versus Colorado 21.12.2023

This week, Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz discuss the Colorado Supreme Court’s decision to block Donald Trump from the ballot, the new Texas law to allow state and local authorities to arrest immigrants, and guest  Amanda Ripley ’s suggestions to survive 2024.    Here are some notes and references from this week’s show: Colorado Supreme Court’s opinion in Anderson, et al. v. Griswo...

What Next - Marvel’s Disastrous Year 21.12.2023

After his character, Kang the Conqueror, was set up to be the big villain of the next phase of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, Jonathan Majors was dismissed from the franchise after being found guilty of reckless assault and harassment.  Guest: Michael Schulman , staff writer for the New Yorker . If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like...

What Next - When a Miscarriage Becomes a Crime 20.12.2023

In September, Brittany Watts had a miscarriage at her home in Ohio. Prosecutors are now charging her with “abuse of a corpse,” a felony that could result in up to a year in prison.  When does a miscarriage become a felony? And could the anti-abortion movement be using this case as a step towards achieving “fetal personhood”? Guest: Mary Ziegler , law professor at UC Davis and author of Roe: The Hi...

What Next - Oh the Humanities! 19.12.2023

West Virginia University is wrapping up its first semester following dramatic cuts to undergraduate and graduate programs. Its president calls the “restructuring” an effort to better focus on majors like medicine, nursing, and business – degrees that will lead directly to lucrative jobs. But what is a degree really for? And how do you decide when a diploma is “worth it?” Guest: Michael Powell , st...

What Next - Where Do Returned Gifts Go? 18.12.2023

“Easy returns” are an essential part of the online shopping experience. But 20-30 percent of online purchases get sent “back,” which is to say, they then enter the labyrinth of third-party return facilities, destined for re-evaluation, restocking—or possibly, the garbage. Guest: Amanda Mull, staff writer at The Atlantic . If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plu...

Slate Money - Slate Money Goes to the Movies: This Is Spinal Tap 18.12.2023

In ancient times, hundreds of years before the dawn of history, director Rob Reiner gave the world a band named Spinal Tap. No one knows who they were or what they were doing … except for legendary designer Paula Scher , the mind behind 40 years of music artwork and branding. She chats with Felix Salmon , Emily Peck , and Elizabeth Spiers about the true stories that inspired the classic mockumenta...

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - The Case Against CLEAR 17.12.2023

Going through airport security is a legal requirement. Is it fair for a private company to interject itself in that process—and cut to the front of the line? Guest: David Zipper, visiting Fellow at Harvard Kennedy School, focused on mobility, cities and technology. If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast,...

Slate Money - Is Starbucks Still a Union Buster? 16.12.2023

This week, Felix Salmon , Emily Peck , and Elizabeth Spiers speculate on the Federal Reserve’s surprising new interest rates, whether Starbucks’ store closings are anti-union, and the financial machinations of Dodgers pitcher Shohei Ohtani. In the Plus segment, Felix and Emily hash it out over the usefulness of the UN’s climate change conference.  If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up...

Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts - Texas Abortion Laws’ Cruel Outcomes 16.12.2023

Earlier this week, the Texas Supreme Court said Kate Cox couldn’t have an abortion. Cox’s doctors had diagnosed the fetus with Trisomy 18, an almost certainly fatal genetic condition. On top of that, there were concerns about whether or not Cox would be able to have children again in the future if she continued with this pregnancy. None of this was enough for nine judges in Texas to allow Cox to h...

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - Shein’s Newest Offering? An IPO 15.12.2023

Fast-fashion titan Shein is preparing for its initial public offering, even as questions of sustainability and labor practices linger.  Guest: Jordyn Holman , business reporter covering the retail industry and consumerism for The New York Times If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of sh...

Political Gabfest - Is Harvard Antisemitic? 14.12.2023

This week, Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz discuss the free-speech controversies that are roiling college campuses since the war in Gaza began; the questions related to Trump cases that the U.S. Supreme Court will answer; and the latest high-profile abortion case coming out of Texas that has real-life and political consequences.    Here are some notes and references from this week’s...

What Next - What Texas Abortion Laws Leave Unsaid 14.12.2023

Kate Cox’s fight to abort her pregnancy and save her fertility in Texas says a lot about America’s post- Roe , fractured approach to reproductive rights. Guest: Selena Simmons-Duffin , health policy correspondent at NPR. If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and D...

What Next - Some Israeli Hostages Came Home. His Son Didn't. 13.12.2023

Over 100 hostages being held by Hamas were released during the temporary ceasefire last month. But Sagui Dekel-Chen, a resident of Kibbutz Nir Oz, was not among them. With Gaza under bombardment again, all his father can do is plead with the Israeli government, and wait. Guest: Jonathan Dekel-Chen , professor at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, father of Sagui Dekel-Chen, who is presumed to be...

What Next - Pilots' Hidden Mental Health Crisis 12.12.2023

For pilots facing mental health problems of almost any kind, the cost of getting help might be too much to bear. After a crisis on an Alaska Airlines flight, the National Transportation Safety Board and the Federal Aviation Administration are examining how to make the skies safer, while allowing pilots to get help.  Guest: Pete Muntean, pilot, flight instructor and CNN correspondent covering aviat...

What Next - War in Gaza; Violence in the West Bank 11.12.2023

As war rages in Gaza, the Biden administration has begun imposing visa bans on people involved in violence in the Israeli-occupied West Bank, where assaults by Israeli settlers against Palestinians have been on the rise since October 7.  Guest: Dalia Hatuqa , multimedia journalist living in Ramallah, specializing in Israeli-Palestinian affairs. If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up fo...

Slate Money - Slate Money Travel: Hotels That Don’t Rip You Off 11.12.2023

This week, Pavia Rosati, founder of travel platform Fathom , chats with Felix Salmon and the hotel industry in the post-COVD era. They discuss why prices are so unpredictable, those exorbitant fees for coffee and yoga classes, and how the industry is recovering from a historic crash.  If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get an ad-free experience ac...

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