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After the Trump administration launched a massive Immigrations and Customs Enforcement operation in Minnesota, protesters gathered to defend immigrant neighbors. Renee Nicole Good, a mother of a six year old, showed up with her wife and dog to film altercations between officers and community members. What happened next changed everything.  Guest: Jon Collins, senior reporter on the Minnesota Public Radio News race, class and communities team. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subsc...

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What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - Cracking the Egg Crisis 02.03.2025

Everyone’s talking about the price of eggs—so why are they so expensive? And when can we expect—if ever—the price to come back down? Guests:  Dr. Jada Thompson, associate professor at the University of Arkansas Want more What Next TBD? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clickin...

Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts - When the Lawyers are Lawless 01.03.2025

This past week has seen firings at the Pentagon, an Executive Order targeting a private law firm, the installation of a podcaster and January 6 denialist as #2 at the FBI, and an incident in which an audience member at an Idaho townhall was wrestled to the ground and led away in zip ties by private security that answer to no lawful police entity. Is this what happens when the lawyers, police offic...

Slate Money - Trump Math & Techno-Fascism 01.03.2025

This week: Trump has proposed a $5 million “gold card” for US citizenship, suggesting that the US could sell 10 million of them to pay off the national debt.  Felix Salmon , Emily Peck , and Elizabeth Spiers discuss the logic behind this considering the similar programs that already exist and the possible pool of candidates. Then, they discuss guest Kyle Chayka ’s recent piece in the New Yorker co...

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - The DOGE Resistance 28.02.2025

Federal workers in the U.S. Digital Service resigned in protest over what they viewed as indiscriminate, irresponsible firings coming from the DOGE office. While lawsuits are entering the courts and protests are taking to the streets, will any of this make a difference to the chainsaw-minded leaders of DOGE?  Guest: Ryan Mac, tech reporter at the New York Times and co-author of “ Character Limit:...

Political Gabfest - So Europe is Our Enemy Now? 27.02.2025

This week, Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz discuss the future of the transatlantic alliance and Ukraine in the wake of the UN resolution votes with  Zanny Minton Beddoes,  editor-in-chief of  The Economist ; the House GOP’s budget resolution and the reconciliation process; and the Trump administration’s increasingly aggressive moves against the press.  For this week’s Slate Plus bon...

What Next - Will Gaza’s Ceasefire Last? 27.02.2025

The ceasefire between Hamas and Israel has held since January 19. Now, the second phase—negotiating Gaza’s future—is supposed to begin. But anger over the deaths of hostages and intrusions into the West Bank aren’t going to make it easy. Guest: Yair Rosenberg , staff writer at The Atlantic and author of Deep Shtetl , a newsletter about the intersection of politics, culture, and religion.  Want mor...

What Next - The DOGE Backlash Begins 26.02.2025

In town halls from Oregon to Georgia, people are letting Republicans know just how angry they are about the dramatic cuts to the federal government. And their displeasure is starting to sink Trump’s approval rating. Guest: Greg Bluestein, political reporter for the Atlanta Journal-Constitution .  Ben Mathis-Lilley, senior writer for Slate . Want more What Next? Join Slate Plus to unlock full, ad-f...

What Next - Barron Mania 25.02.2025

Barron Trump, the president’s youngest son, isn’t on the public speaking circuit and has no social media presence. But he’s nevertheless become a Gen-Z-aged avatar of Trump masculinity for the MAGA faithful. Where does reality end and speculation begin? Guest: Dan Adler , staff writer for Vanity Fair . Want more What Next? Join Slate Plus to unlock full, ad-free access to What Next and all your ot...

What Next - What If America Went on Strike? 24.02.2025

In 2011, a Republican majority in the Wisconsin State House faced massive protests to their plans to strip power from public sector workers. State Democrats fled across the border and the possibility of a general strike loomed.  But the strike fizzled out and the legislation ultimately passed.  And now the situation in the federal government is shaping up in a similar way. Do the workers need to b...

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - $Trump 23.02.2025

The crypto industry threw its weight and money behind Donald Trump, in hopes of legitimizing the industry. Before his Inauguration Day was over, Donald Trump was already enriching himself via a memecoin, one of the scammier, least legitimate-looking uses of crypto. Guest: David Yaffe-Bellany, reporter covering cryptocurrency for the New York Times. Want more What Next TBD? Subscribe to Slate Plus...

Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts - Long Live The King? 22.02.2025

President Donald J Trump’s administration has been invoking a conservative legal theory as justification for his claim to possess king-like presidential powers. This new supercharged version of the “unitary executive theory” may just be extreme enough to stick in the craw of some conservative judges, but will it find a warm welcome when it inevitably lands at the Supreme Court, and should we brace...

Slate Money - The Consequences of Getting on Europe’s Bad Side 22.02.2025

This week: The US is weakening ties with its biggest ally while embracing an old enemy. Felix Salmon , Emily Peck , and Elizabeth Spiers explain how the Trump administration’s antagonization of Europe – and further alignment with Russia – could mean major economic blowback if it goes far enough. Then, rumor has it that Intel is looking to sell parts of its business off to foreign firms Broadcom an...

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - Elon's Endgame 21.02.2025

As someone whose companies receive billions of dollars from the government, it’s worth asking why Elon Musk is so zealous about cutting government spending.  Guest: Max Chafkin , features editor and tech reporter at Bloomberg Businessweek and cohost of the Elon, Inc podcast . Want more What Next TBD? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and all your fav...

Political Gabfest - The “Justice Department is Dire“ 20.02.2025

This week, Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz discuss the apparent corrupt bargain involving NYC mayor Eric Adams and the bonfire of Justice Department resignations; what could possibly go wrong when Musk and DOGE access the IRS and Social Security; and talk to Marc Dunkelman about his new book Why Nothing Works: Who Killed Progress – and How to Bring it Back .  For this week’s Slate P...

What Next - Why This Trump Nominee Has Union Support 20.02.2025

Trump's pick for labor secretary, Lori Chavez-DeRemer, is an outlier: She has experience in federal government, where she was one of three House Republicans to support the “Protecting the Right to Organize Act” to expand employees’ rights to organize and collectively bargain and she was accompanied by the head of the Teamsters when she went to visit Mar A Lago after the election. What did her hear...

What Next - A Measles Outbreak and Wake-Up Call 19.02.2025

When enough people opt out of routine vaccinations for their children, diseases that have been all but eliminated can come roaring back, as is the case with a growing measles outbreak in West Texas.  Guest: Dr. Adam Ratner , pediatrician of infectious disease in New York City and author of Booster Shots: The Urgent Lessons of Measles and the Uncertain Future of Children’s Health . Want more What N...

What Next - How Eric Adams Got His Charges Dropped 18.02.2025

The Justice Department ordered New York federal prosecutors to drop charges against Eric Adams, claiming his indictment was preventing him from aiding in Trump’s immigration crackdown. The move has prompted multiple high level Justice Department officials to resign, and raised concerns of a quid pro quo.  Guest: Jay Willis , Editor-in-Chief of Balls & Strikes. Want more What Next? Join Slate P...

Slate Money - Money Talks: The Disappearing Databases 18.02.2025

In this Money Talks: Lizzie O’Leary , host of What Next: TBD , joins Felix Salmon to discuss her article on why government databases are crucial to our economy , and why it’s so worrisome that this kind of public data is being removed by the Trump administration. Want to hear that discussion and hear more Slate Money? Join Slate Plus to unlock weekly bonus episodes. Plus, you’ll access ad-free lis...

What Next - How To Rebuild Your Life After a Wildfire 17.02.2025

As What Next celebrates President’s Day, please enjoy this episode from our colleagues at How To . What Next will be back in your feed tomorrow. Jeff and his family lost their home last month in the L.A. wildfires. Since then, he’s been hyperfocused on insurance claims, an epic to-do list, and finding a “temporary” place to live for the next several years. But Jeff hasn’t experienced the emotional...

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - Can You Pay Attention, Please? 16.02.2025

The infinite scroll has no purpose other than keeping your attention. But that doesn’t mean it’s value-neutral. Guest: Chris Hayes, MSNBC news anchor and author of “ The Siren's Call: How Attention Became The World's Most Endangered Resource.” Want more What Next TBD? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe t...

Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts - The Gangster Presidency 15.02.2025

On Monday, President Trump’s personal lawyer and Acting Deputy Attorney General Emil Bove ordered prosecutors to drop federal corruption charges against New York City Mayor Eric Adams. Adams had been courting President Trump for weeks, including with a pre-inauguration visit to Mar A Lago, but the shape of the deal struck between the accused Mayor and the incoming administration came into clear vi...

Political Gabfest - Gabfest Reads | A Former Haitian President’s Grandson Lives the Modern Immigrant Experience 15.02.2025

Emily Bazelon talks with author  Rich Benjamin  about his new book,  Talk to Me: Lessons From a Family Forged by History . They delve into Rich’s complex family history— particularly the experiences of his grandfather, Daniel Fignolé. Fignolé was the president of Hatti in 1957 before being ousted by a coup that involved American influence. Rich and Emily discuss how the political upheaval had a la...

Slate Money - Is Bribery Back? 15.02.2025

This week: Trump has signed an order suspending the enforcement of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act. Felix Salmon , Emily Peck , and Elizabeth Spiers speculate on his motives and on how likely it actually is that this will shield anyone from the FCPA. Then, Elon Musk has taken $80 million that was sent to New York City by FEMA directly out of the city’s account. The hosts discuss the legality and...

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - Is Elon Actually Trying to Buy OpenAI? 14.02.2025

Is Elon Musk’s $97.4 billion offer to buy OpenAI genuine—or an irresistible opportunity to troll Sam Altman? Guest: David A. Fahrenthold , investigative reporter for the New York Times Want more What Next TBD? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of...

Political Gabfest - Trump vs. The Judges 13.02.2025

This week, Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz discuss the constitutional crisis developing between President Trump and the courts, the attack on NIH and overhead funding, and political sorting among American workplaces. For this week’s Slate Plus bonus episode, Emily, John, and David discuss their recent favorite TV shows, focusing on HBO’s  Somebody Somewhere  and its relevance to con...

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