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After the Trump administration launched a massive Immigrations and Customs Enforcement operation in Minnesota, protesters gathered to defend immigrant neighbors. Renee Nicole Good, a mother of a six year old, showed up with her wife and dog to film altercations between officers and community members. What happened next changed everything.  Guest: Jon Collins, senior reporter on the Minnesota Public Radio News race, class and communities team. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subsc...

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What Next - Why Did Big Law Fold So Easily? 21.04.2025

Some of the nation’s biggest law firms have found themselves in Trump’s crosshairs and have pledged pro-bono legal service to maintain their security clearances and access to government buildings. Others, however, are trying to fight back. Guest: Ankush Khardori, attorney and former federal prosecutor in the US Justice Department. Want more What Next? Join Slate Plus to unlock full, ad-free access...

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - The Baby Monitor Trap 20.04.2025

If setting up a baby monitor in the room with your sleeping kids doesn’t allow you to pop out and enjoy the cruise ship, what are they actually good for? Guest: Stephanie Murray, writer for The Atlantic, the newsletter Family Stuff , who wrote “ You’re on Vacation. You Leave Your Kid in Your Hotel Room With a Baby Monitor. What Could Go Wrong? ” for Slate. Want more What Next TBD? Subscribe to Sla...

Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts - Playing Chicken With the Constitution 19.04.2025

Ever since March 15, when three flights carrying hundreds of men who had been afforded zero due process left United States airspace and landed in El Salvador, American democracy has been hurtling toward an internal conflict that the federal judiciary would very much prefer to avoid, but just keeps getting more unavoidable. On this week’s Amicus podcast, Mark Joseph Stern is joined by Leah Litman f...

Political Gabfest - Gabfest Reads | How to Turn the Creative Process Into “Good Trouble” 19.04.2025

John Dickerson talks with author Maggie Smith about her new book,  Dear Writer: Pep Talks & Practical Advice for the Creative Life .  They talk about the essential elements of all creative projects, when you know a project is “done”, how to stay “porous” in the world, and more.  Tweet us your questions  @SlateGabfest  or email us at  gabfest@slate.com . (Messages could be quoted by name unless...

Slate Money - Jay Powell’s Tough Call 19.04.2025

This week: Trump isn’t happy with Fed chair Jay Powell’s take on his tariffs. Felix Salmon , Elizabeth Spiers and guest host Cardiff Garcia discuss the economic reasoning for why Powell is resisting the president’s demands to lower rates and what would happen if Trump finds a legal way to fire him. Then, the Trump administration is both gutting the IRS and potentially weaponizing it against Harvar...

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - The U.S. vs Meta 18.04.2025

This week, the FTC and Meta began a trial to determine if—by adding Instagram and WhatsApp to its portfolio with Facebook over a decade ago—the company became a monopoly in social media. If Meta loses, it could be forced to split up, losing Instagram—and its substantial ad revenue. Guest: Paresh Dave , senior writer at WIRED. Want more What Next TBD? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free liste...

Political Gabfest - Trump vs. Harvard 17.04.2025

This week, Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz discuss the Trump administration’s ramped up attacks on Harvard and international students, the courts flirting with findings of contempt after the administration ignores and mocks court orders, and the ways the Trump tariffs and exemptions invite corruption and “swampiness.” For this week’s Slate Plus bonus episode, Emily, John, and David...

What Next - Should Hospitals Drug Test New Moms? 17.04.2025

In an ongoing opioid epidemic, hospitals drug testing new mothers and their babies has an intuitive logic. But applied unequally, rife with false positives, and prone to disrupting those important early weeks, is it a best practice? Guest: Shoshana Walter , investigative reporter for The Marshall Project Want more What Next? Join Slate Plus to unlock full, ad-free access to What Next and all your ...

What Next - When a State Tells Trump 'No' 16.04.2025

In February, Donald Trump and Maine Governor Janet Mills got into a spat over Trump’s executive order on trans athletes, that ended with both parties tersely agreeing to meet in court. Since then, the Trump administration seems to be trying to make an example of the state—cutting off federal funding where it can.  Guest: Callie Ferguson, investigative reporter for the Bangor Daily News. Want more...

What Next - Trump’s Weaponized IRS 15.04.2025

On April 7, the Treasury Department and Department of Homeland Security reached an agreement to allow ICE to use confidential tax information to locate undocumented immigrants. Though this group generally pays taxes at a higher rate than comparable U.S. citizens, advocates warn that the IRS-ICE team-up could have a chilling effect. They say it’s likely to endanger the $66 billion in federal tax re...

Slate Money - Money Talks: The Student Loan Paradox 15.04.2025

In this Money Talks: The federal student loan program was meant to help students seeking a route to a better life – so why is it putting so many of them into crippling debt instead? Journalist Jillian Berman , author of Sunk Cost: Who’s to Blame for the Nation’s Broken Student Loan System and How to Fix , joins Emily Peck to unpack the fraught history of the national student debt system and discus...

What Next - Project 2025’s Plan for Your Family 14.04.2025

Despite what Trump said on the campaign trail, his administration seems to be working right out of Project 2025, where the first goal is to “Restore the family as the centerpiece of American life—and protect our children.” What does this mean in action? It starts with a very specific type of “family.” Guest: David Graham, Atlantic staff writer and author of the forthcoming book, The Project: How P...

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - TikTok: Somehow Also Affected by the Tariffs 13.04.2025

TikTok was on the verge of being sold to a non-Chinese company when Trump rolled out his new tariff plans. Now everything is thrown into uncertainty and the company has until mid-June to find another buyer—or be banned in the United States. Guest: Sapna Maheshwari , New York Times reporter covering TikTok, technology and emerging media companies. Want more What Next TBD? Subscribe to Slate Plus to...

Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts - A Lawyer’s Guide to Not Caving to the President 12.04.2025

On this week’s Amicus, autocratic creep in high and low gear. In high gear: The Supreme Court finally issued its order in Kilmar Abrego Garcia’s case, requiring that the government “facilitates” Abrego Garcia’s return from the El Salvadoran prison to which he was illegally and accidentally reditioned, but also recognizing the limits on its authority to direct the executive branch. Dahlia Lithwick...

Slate Money - The Economy’s ‘One Guy Problem’ 12.04.2025

This week: Trump’s erratic tariff policies are creating a lot of volatility in the markets. Felix Salmon , Emily Peck , and Elizabeth Spiers are joined by investments expert Barry Ritholtz to unpack the week’s wild tariff news and this uniquely unpredictable situation where one person’s decisions are having a huge effect on the markets. Then, Barry helps the hosts understand investing in this envi...

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - Trump Tariffs Hit Mushroom Kingdom 11.04.2025

The same day  Nintendo was officially introducing its latest console, Donald Trump was announcing his new global tariff plan. As a result, gamers were treated to an early preview of what a world bound up in tariffs would look like. Spoiler: It’ll probably cost you a lot more. Guest: Jason Koebler, a co-founder of 404 Media Want more What Next TBD? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listenin...

Political Gabfest - The Bond Market Shrieks 10.04.2025

This week, Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz discuss the self-inflicted chaos of Trump’s tariffs and an escalating trade war with China; the Supreme Court’s careful responses to deportations without due process which leave key questions unanswered; and the brazen attempted heist of a North Carolina Supreme Court seat by Republicans. Emily: Adam Cancryn and Maggie Miller for Politico:...

What Next - Impeachment From the Bottom Up 10.04.2025

Thousands of “Hands Off!” protestors took to the street over the weekend. While it’s clear they were marching against the actions of Elon Musk and President Donald Trump, what would “hands off” look like? If it’s removing these guys from office, why not tell the people with the power to do it? Guest: Gabe Garbowit , former Senate staffer, current organizer at citizensimpeachment.com Want more What...

What Next - A Cancelled Actor Scripts His Comeback 09.04.2025

Jonathan Majors was an actor on the rise—indie credits, prestige television, a Spike Lee joint, a superhero film. But all of that looked like it was over when Majors was found guilty of assault and harassment in 2023.   Now Majors is back on the promotional circuit for the film “Magazine Dreams.” Is this evidence of the #MeToo movement’s waning power, or is it more of the same from an industry tha...

Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts - Sneak Preview: The Supreme Court Just Gave The Trump Administration Everything It Wanted—Almost 08.04.2025

Here’s a question for you. If you are scooped up by ICE (masked, covering badge numbers), then moved from one detention center to another in quick succession, before being hastily forced onto a flight to El Salvador where you are imprisoned in a “terrorism confinement center” beyond the jurisdiction of the United States –– at what point in that process could you access some kind of adjudicatory re...

What Next - The Mass Grave in Gaza 08.04.2025

While Egypt and the Gulf States submit proposals to rebuild Gaza, Israel is moving forward with President Trump’s plan to displace Palestinians from the Gaza Strip. Meanwhile, the war rages on, and Gazans have been struggling to access essentials like food and medical supplies. Guest: Aya Batrawy , NPR international correspondent based in Dubai.  Want more What Next? Join Slate Plus to unlock full...

What Next - The Upside Of Tariffs 07.04.2025

Maybe Trump doesn’t care if the economy tanks—maybe he believes he can play it all to his advantage. And maybe, through a lot of pain, this is the only way America’s going to learn its lesson. Guest: Jonathan Last , editor of The Bulwark Want more What Next? Join Slate Plus to unlock full, ad-free access to What Next and all your  other favorite Slate podcasts. You can subscribe directly from the...

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - Why Wall Street Can’t Quit Elon 06.04.2025

Elon Musk’s polarizing persona and antics have created a toxic cloud around his companies, particularly Tesla. But despite that, Wall Street can’t seem to quit him. Why?  Guest: Felix Salmon, host of Slate Money and chief financial correspondent for Axios. Want more What Next TBD? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and all your favorite Slate podcasts...

Slate Money - That Wack-Ass Tariff Formula 05.04.2025

This week: Trump unveiled his extensive list of tariffs. Felix Salmon , Emily Peck , and Elizabeth Spiers discuss the questionable math that went into calculating these hefty tariffs and the stock market’s extremely negative reaction to the announcement. Then, Trump has picked a fight with the country's biggest law firms, threatening the integrity of the US legal system. Slate’s Mark Joseph Stern...

Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts - He Was Deported by Administrative Error. We Talked to His Lawyer. 05.04.2025

The US government’s use of a prison in El Salvador as an extra-judicial due-process free black site has been rendered starkly visible by the story of one man they tried to disappear. On this week’s Amicus ,  Dahlia Lithwick interviews Simon Sandoval-Moshenberg, lawyer for Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia, a Maryland resident, husband and father, who was illegally deported to El Salvador in March due t...

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