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After the Trump administration launched a massive Immigrations and Customs Enforcement operation in Minnesota, protesters gathered to defend immigrant neighbors. Renee Nicole Good, a mother of a six year old, showed up with her wife and dog to film altercations between officers and community members. What happened next changed everything. Guest: Jon Collins, senior reporter on the Minnesota Public Radio News race, class and communities team. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subsc...
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Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts - The Two Tracks of Justice 24.05.2025 1:09:36
This week’s episode attempts to understand the ways in which the law of Trump unfolds along two tracks at the same time. First, Mark Joseph Stern joins us to talk about the Supreme Court’s decision to let Trump fire the heads of independent agencies, undermining a 90-year-old precedent in an unsigned, two-page decision on the shadow docket. This is a case in which Donald Trump’s agenda perfectly a...
Slate Money - Elon Backs Off 24.05.2025 50:48
This week: The bond vigilantes are being summoned by Trump’s take bill. Felix Salmon , Emily Peck , and Elizabeth Spiers discuss the contents of the controversial bill and how the bond markets are reacting. Then, Julian Sanchez of the WatchCats podcast joins to discuss Elon Musk’s announcement that he’s stepping back from the government and break down what he did with DOGE. Then, has the rise of G...
What Next - Bonus: Main Character: The One Big Beautiful Bill 23.05.2025 5:41
Trump’s “one big beautiful bill” cleared the House this week and heads off to the Senate where…actually let’s bring in an expert to explain what happens next. Guest: Jim Newell , Slate’s senior political writer. This episode is member-exclusive. Listen to it now by subscribing to Slate Plus. By joining, not only will you unlock exclusive episodes of What Next —you’ll also access ad-free listening...
What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - Inside OpenAI's Empire 23.05.2025 34:30
OpenAI started as a non-profit dedicated to building safe A.I. Now, they’re obsessed with building artificial general intelligence by any means necessary - even if they don’t quite know what that is. Guest: Karen Hao , reporter and author of “ Empire of AI: Dreams and Nightmares in Sam Altman's OpenAI ” Want more What Next TBD? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What...
Political Gabfest - Big and Beautiful or Huge and Horrendous 22.05.2025 1:02:47
This week, Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz discuss the huge House tax bill and its broad economic implications with Harvard economist Jason Furman , the DOJ’s selective investigation and prosecution of officials as a method of intimidation, and the Heritage Foundation’s “Project Esther” as the Trump administration’s blueprint for shutting down dissent with accusations of antisemiti...
What Next - Can A “Morality Coalition” Succeed Against Trump? 22.05.2025 22:52
Rev. Dr. Barber II is objecting to Republicans’ budget bill on the grounds of morality as much as politics—which is why he’s been praying, protesting, and getting arrested to stick up for those who will be affected by it. Guest: Reverend Doctor William J. Barber II , pastor of Greenleaf Christian Church, Disciples of Christ in Goldsboro, North Carolina, professor at Yale Divinity School, and foun...
What Next - If Trump Guts FEMA, Are Tornado Victims On Their Own? 21.05.2025 26:22
One of the more surprising targets of Project 2025—and now, therefore, the Trump administration—is FEMA. How will proposed changes affect what FEMA can do, as hurricane season begins, and as a changing climate makes weather more unpredictable? Guest: Thomas Frank , editor for E&E News’ climate finance team. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole W...
What Next - Here’s How the GOP Cuts Medicaid 20.05.2025 24:04
In a return to a classic party policy goal, Republicans want to add “work requirements” to Medicaid to offset costs in Trump’s “one big beautiful bill.” Work requirements for health insurance have been tried before, on the state level, and the end result is a lot of people—including working people—losing their health insurance. Guest: Leo Cuello, research professor at the Georgetown University Mc...
What Next - Is Immigration Still Trump’s Strongest Issue? 19.05.2025 25:10
As Donald Trump strives to deliver on his harsh immigration enforcement campaign promises, the president’s approval rating on the issue has dropped. But very public mistakes—with very real consequences—and dipping polls don’t seem to be slowing the administration down yet. Guests: Adrian Carrasquillo , author of the Huddled Masses newsletter from The Bulwark Primitiva Hernandez , executive directo...
Slate Money - A Disneyland Guide 19.05.2025 26:02
In this special episode of Slate Money, Felix Salmon and Emily Peck are joined by Slate editor in chief, Hillary Frey . They talk all things Disneyland, including why Disneyland is better than Disney World, the need to let go of the inevitable costs ahead of your trip, why it makes for a great vacation with teenagers, and more. Podcast production by Cheyna Roth. Hosted on Acast. See acast.co...
What Next - TBD | You’ve Been Deepfaked 18.05.2025 24:37
What do you do when your likeness has been turned into A.I.-generated pornography?—it’s a problem people are already facing. But legislation moving through Congress may cause more problems than it would solve. Guests: Joanne Chew, actress and visual artist based in LA. Samantha Cole , cofounder of 404 media and author of “ How Sex Changed the Internet and How the Internet Changed Sex .” Want more...
What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - You’ve Been Deepfaked 18.05.2025 24:37
What do you do when your likeness has been turned into A.I.-generated pornography?—it’s a problem people are already facing. But legislation moving through Congress may cause more problems than it would solve. Guests: Joanne Chew, actress and visual artist based in LA. Samantha Cole , cofounder of 404 media and author of “ How Sex Changed the Internet and How the Internet Changed Sex .” Want more...
Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts - SCOTUS Is About to Suffer Buyers Remorse, Again 17.05.2025 56:40
Our eyes this week were trained on the arguments over birthright citizenship at the Supreme Court on Thursday. While Solicitor General John Sauer advanced wild arguments on behalf of the Trump administration, four of the justices (hint: the women) seemed extremely suspicious of his motives. The five men? Not so much. Slate senior writer Mark Joseph Stern joins Dahlia Lithwick to break down Trump v...
Slate Money - Did You Fill Yer Boots With Stocks? 17.05.2025 41:36
This week: The stock market is coming back after its post Liberation Day fall. Felix Salmon , Emily Peck , and Elizabeth Spiers discuss what this does, and mostly doesn’t , signal about the economy under Trump. Then, one stock that is not doing well at all is the UnitedHealth Group. The hosts explain the perfect storm the company has found itself in, and examine if that’s actually the reason for i...
Political Gabfest - Gabfest Reads | How to Create an Exceptional Family 17.05.2025 32:20
Emily Bazelon talks with author Susan Dominus about her new book, The Family Dynamic: A Journey into the Mystery of Sibling Success . They discuss the commonalities among families that have multiple high-achieving children, what we can learn from these unique families, and more. Tweet us your questions @SlateGabfest or email us at gabfest@slate.com . (Messages could be quoted by name unles...
What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - The Newarkification of Flying 16.05.2025 26:42
Aging equipment and chronically understaffed air traffic control have made flying in and out of Newark’s Liberty International Airport a delay-snarled mess. And the problems there aren’t entirely unique. Will Congress and the Trump administration be the ones to fix it? Guest: Will Guisbond , staff reporter covering air traffic control for The Air Current Want more What Next TBD? Subscribe to Slat...
Political Gabfest - Just a Modest $400 Million Gift 15.05.2025 1:07:22
This week, Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz discuss how Trump’s trip to the Middle East is wildly off the scale of any past corruption and offensive to American tradition, the Supreme Court hearing arguments in the first case in Trump’s attempts to limit birthright citizenship, and the buzz about a new book from Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson, Original Sin: President Biden’s Decline,...
What Next - The Qatari Plane Is Just The Start 15.05.2025 22:00
Between the crypto ventures, real estate deals, and a gift-wrapped tricked-out 747, it feels like Donald Trump is more open-for-business than ever this term. And since no one seems able or willing to stop him, why wouldn’t he be? Guest: Andrea Bernstein , investigative journalist and host of Trump Inc and author of “ American Oligarchs: The Kushners, The Trumps, and the Marriage of Money and Power...
What Next - Trump’s Middle East Diplomacy 14.05.2025 24:19
Ahead of his first trip to the region, Donald Trump’s policies toward the Middle East have been full of surprises. He wants sanctions on Syria lifted; he revealed the U.S. has been negotiating directly with Hamas; and he’s considering a new nuclear deal with Iran—and without consulting with Israel. Guest: Gregg Carlstrom , Middle East correspondent for the Economist. Want more What Next? Subscrib...
What Next - David Hogg Wants Democratic Politicians to Be Afraid 13.05.2025 23:35
What if the Democratic Party’s problem isn’t just messaging—it’s the Democrats themselves, and “seniority politics” that never call incumbents to account? Is it time for a Tea Party-style cleaning-of-the-house? Guest: David Hogg, DNC Vice Chair and founder of Leaders We Deserve PAC Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across al...
Slate Money - Money Talks: An Economist Shares Her Cheat Codes 13.05.2025 34:48
In this Money Talks: Redfin’s Chief Economist Daryl Fairweather has a new book, Hate The Game, where she shares the "economic cheat codes” she’s discovered for life, love and work. She joins Emily Peck to discuss topics from the book like how to use game theory when asking for a raise and why Destiny’s Child is such a good parable for knowing your negotiating power. Want to hear that discussion an...
What Next - The War Over Pete Hegseth 12.05.2025 23:15
Despite being perhaps the least experienced person to ever hold his position, Pete Hegseth has set about dramatically reforming the Department of Defense to Donald Trump’s specifications—which seem to have less to do with creating a more effective fighting force, and more to do with window dressing. Guest: Tom Bowman , Pentagon reporter for NPR. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to acce...
What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - Online and Pregnant 11.05.2025 30:39
The intimate and extremely personal experience of bringing a child into this world? There’s an app for that…and forums…and so much advice…that contradicts other advice…and a surprising amount of eugenics. Guest: Amanda Hess, critic at the New York Times and author of the book “ Second Life: Having a Child in the Digital Age. ” Want more What Next TBD? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free list...
Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts - SCOTUS, Meet The Broligarchs 10.05.2025 1:01:52
After Silicon Valley’s yeet to the right after Donald Trump was elected in 2016, and the DOGE-ification of the federal government (read: chaos and abuse as the driving ethos of HR), it felt like high time to delve into the evolving relationship between tech billionaires like Elon Musk and Peter Thiel and the U.S. government. Their influence has massive implications for core constitutional issues s...
Slate Money - Tariff Stockholm Syndrome 10.05.2025 51:00
This week: The UK and the US agreed to the framework for a trade deal. Felix Salmon , Emily Peck , and Elizabeth Spiers discuss the details of the agreement and what it means that it includes keeping the 10% baseline tariffs staying in place. Then, Bill Gates has announced that he’s winding down the Gates Foundation and doubling the money he’s giving away. The hosts discuss how this is a reaction...
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