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After the Trump administration launched a massive Immigrations and Customs Enforcement operation in Minnesota, protesters gathered to defend immigrant neighbors. Renee Nicole Good, a mother of a six year old, showed up with her wife and dog to film altercations between officers and community members. What happened next changed everything. Guest: Jon Collins, senior reporter on the Minnesota Public Radio News race, class and communities team. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subsc...
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Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts - Legal Blinkers, Moral Hazards 31.01.2026 47:36
Lawyers love legal reasoning. It promises a clean, clear path through sticky, tricky territory. But legal reasoning can enable grotesque real-world outcomes, like torture, or arresting journalists, or masked government agents detaining and disappearing people. On this week’s Amicus, Dahlia Lithwick is in conversation with Joseph Margulies , Professor of Practice of Government at Cornell University...
Slate Money - Global Carry Trade Chaos 31.01.2026 45:07
This week: Volatility in the Japanese bond market is threatening the global trade house of cards. Felix Salmon , Elizabeth Spiers , and Emily Peck , unpack the changes in Japan’s economy and why they have such a big worldwide impact. Then, they discuss the weakening US dollar and what Trump's fed chair nominee says about his administration. And finally, corporate messaging around social issues has...
What Next - SchadenFriday: Greg Bovino, You’re Fired…from Minnesota 30.01.2026 6:20
In the wake of the killings of Renee Good and Alex Pretti during Trump’s immigration enforcement surge in Minnesota, the closest thing to “accountability” we’ve seen is Border Patrol’s Gregory Bovino being sent back to California. It’s not enough but it’s something. Guest: Rob Gunther, What Next senior producer. This episode is member-exclusive. Listen to it now by subscribing to Slate Plus. By jo...
What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - Can Cell Phones Stop ICE? 30.01.2026 26:07
In the immediate aftermath of the killings of Renee Good and Alex Pretti in Minnesota, federal authorities presented very different accounts of what happened from what videos from witnesses showed. Did having footage from multiple angles of each shooting make the truth clear? Guests: Jake Godin , researcher for Bellingcat. Julia Angwin , investigative journalist, founder of Proof News and co...
Political Gabfest - De-ICEing 29.01.2026 1:15:33
This week, Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz discuss how the shocking killing of Alex Pretti by federal agents could represent a real turning point for Trump’s immigration enforcement policies, the cognitive dissonance about constitutional rights and conservative principles displayed by political leaders in the wake of Pretti’s killing, and a new book by guest Jason Zengerle :...
What Next - Sure Looks Like Another Government Shutdown 29.01.2026 25:23
Just as public sentiment is turning on ICE and Border Patrol’s action in Minnesota, another spending bill is due in the U.S. Senate. Can the Democrats use the opportunity to put some restraints on Trump’s DHS? Guest: David Dayen , executive editor of The American Prospect. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all yo...
What Next - Are We Ready for the World Cup? 28.01.2026 24:26
When the US won a bid to co-host the World Cup, Trump was midway through his first term. Eight years later, he’s back in office, and giving soccer fans eager to watch the tournament this summer good reasons to squirm. Guest: Jon Arnold , sports journalist and author of the Getting CONCACAFed substack. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next f...
What Next - How Immigration Enforcement Became So Violent 27.01.2026 25:53
How ICE and Border Patrol’s mission became harassing the president’s personal enemies. Guest: Radley Balko, journalist and the author of Rise of the Warrior Cop: The Militarization of America’s Police Forces and a Substack called The Watch . Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Sub...
What Next - Everyone Saw CBP Kill Alex Pretti 26.01.2026 28:11
Once again, federal agents have shot and killed a legal observer in Minneapolis. Once again, the shooting is on video. And once again, the Trump Administration has closed ranks around the officers. But could the fallout from Alex Pretti’s death be different? And Minnesotans want to know – when will the feds finally leave? Guest: Will Stancil , lawyer and observer in Minneapolis Want more Wha...
What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - David Ellison, Eldest Boy 25.01.2026 29:36
Having already taken over Paramount, David Ellison was vying to add Warner Bros. Discovery to his portfolio. Are his dad’s politics behind his drive to run Hollywood or is there something else going on? Guest: Reeves Widemann , features writer at New York Magazine. Want more What Next TBD? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and all your favorite Slate...
Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts - Who Gave ICE Permission to Trample the Constitution? 24.01.2026 50:17
The evidence is mounting that ICE is not only unbothered by moral boundaries, but immigration and customs enforcement agents acting on behalf of President Trump believe they are not constrained by constitutional red lines, either. According to a super-secret internal memo flagged in a whistleblower complaint this week, the Fourth Amendment simply doesn’t apply to ICE. That sense of impunity is als...
Slate Money - Davos is So Back 24.01.2026 45:14
This week: World Economic Forum’s Annual Meeting in Davos is all over the news. Felix Salmon , Elizabeth Spiers , and Emily Peck , explain the moments that made headlines and why Davos feels so much more relevant this year. Then, Trump promised to address the affordability crisis at Davos but failed to say much. The hosts discuss what he did say, and how the ongoing crisis is being addressed overa...
What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - The Right’s Minneapolis Outrage Machine 23.01.2026 24:46
The administration’s justification for their actions in Minneapolis owe a lot to the right-wing influencers—and they seem happy to keep this vicious cycle rolling onto California next. Guest: Will Sommer, journalist for the Bulwark . Want more What Next TBD? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today...
Political Gabfest - Greenland War Averted 22.01.2026 1:09:19
This week, Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz discuss whether Trump’s lust for Greenland will break the world (or indeed, whether it already has), what this week’s arguments at the Supreme Court suggest about the future of Fed independence, and how FBI sources say the Bureau is being turned into a weapon of the president. For this week’s Slate Plus bonus episode, Emily, John, and David...
What Next - President TACO’s Greenland Gambit 22.01.2026 25:54
Donald Trump isn’t one for clear policy objectives, but one of his top priorities, apparently, is making Greenland part of the United States–even at the expense of alienating our allies. Guest: Joshua Keating, senior correspondent at Vox covering foreign policy. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite...
Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts - Preview: Fed Up 21.01.2026 9:20
In this member-exclusive episode, co-hosts Dahlia Lithwick and Mark Joseph Stern discuss the Supreme Court’s fact-free foray into Trump v. Cook , a case that economists warn could crater the economy. President Donald Trump spent the first weeks of his second stint in the White House firing a lot of people from government agencies. For the most part, the High Court’s conservative justices let it sl...
What Next - SCOTUS Might Actually Let Trans Kids on the Field 21.01.2026 27:05
The Supreme Court heard arguments over state-level bans on trans athletes competing in public schools last week. Though it’s hard to imagine the conservative-majority court calling the bans “discriminatory,” trans athletes and allies have reason to hope for a narrow ruling, rather than an expansion of the existing laws. Guest: Kate Sosin, LGBTQ+ reporter for The 19th. Want more What Next? Subscrib...
What Next - Care and Feeding | The World Is On Fire. How Do We Tell the Kids? 20.01.2026 30:30
While the What Next team takes the holiday, enjoy this episode from our colleagues at Care and Feeding, featuring a familiar voice. What Next will be back with a new episode tomorrow. On this episode: Lucy Lopez, Elizabeth Newcamp, and Zak Rosen have been trying to stay on top of the news…but they’re getting bogged down and worried about it impacting their kids. Luckily What Next host Mary Harris’...
Slate Money - Money Talks: Modern Money Laundering 20.01.2026 34:36
In this Money Talks: Joe Salama, Chief Compliance Officer at Coinbase and anti-money laundering expert, joins Felix Salmon to give us a rundown on the current state of money laundering around the world. They’ll get into the ongoing battle between criminals and AML to stay one step ahead of the other, why money laundry is thriving in China right now, and how the rise of cryptocurrency factors into...
What Next - Minnesota’s AG Will See ICE in Court 19.01.2026 29:08
Attorney General Keith Ellison is one of the few top Minnesota officials not being investigated by the DOJ… yet. We ask him why, talk about charges for Jonathan Ross, and ask what it’ll take to get ICE out of Minneapolis. Guest: Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your f...
What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - ChatGPT, MD 18.01.2026 22:47
Doctors are already using artificial intelligence to take notes while with patients—but are large language models ready to consult? Guest: Brittany Trang , health tech reporter for Stat News. Want more What Next TBD? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free”...
Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts - Invoking the Insurrection Act 17.01.2026 1:06:41
President Trump REALLY wants to invoke the Insurrection Act. He’s fallen hard for this 200-year-old law that would allow him to deploy active duty military to enforce civilian law on American streets. On this week’s Amicus podcast, co-host Mark Joseph Stern is joined by Professor Steve Vladeck , a nationally recognized expert on the Supreme Court, federal courts, national security law, and militar...
Political Gabfest - Gabfest Reads | When Marriage Goes Stale and Middle Age Hits Hard 17.01.2026 32:04
Emily Bazelon talks with author Curtis Sittenfeld about her short story collection, “ Show Don't Tel l.” They discuss the recurring themes of the book from troubled marriages and middle age to the passage of time, and characters who are navigating moments of racial privilege and prejudice. Tweet us your questions @SlateGabfest or email us at gabfest@slate.com. (Messages could be quoted by na...
Slate Money - Gambling on the Globes & Geopolitics 17.01.2026 46:28
This week: Polymarket teamed up with the Golden Globes, displaying a live ticker for betters on the broadcast. Felix Salmon , Elizabeth Spiers , and Emily Peck , discuss the rising popularity of prediction markets and the potential consequences of having real world events–from award shows to geopolitical actions–be the basis for gambling payouts. Then, the Trump administration began an investigati...
What Next - Bonus SchadenFriday: How a Lefty Journalist Stumbled Into an ICE Job 16.01.2026 5:48
She just wanted to report on an ICE recruiting session. She didn’t expect to get a job offer. Guest: Laura Jedeed , journalist who wrote “ You’ve Heard About Who ICE Is Recruiting. The Truth Is Far Worse. I’m the Proof ” for Slate. This episode is member-exclusive. Listen to it now by subscribing to Slate Plus. By joining, not only will you unlock exclusive episodes of What Next —you’ll also acces...
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