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After the Trump administration launched a massive Immigrations and Customs Enforcement operation in Minnesota, protesters gathered to defend immigrant neighbors. Renee Nicole Good, a mother of a six year old, showed up with her wife and dog to film altercations between officers and community members. What happened next changed everything.  Guest: Jon Collins, senior reporter on the Minnesota Public Radio News race, class and communities team. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subsc...

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Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts - Race, Police, and The Law 06.06.2020

Dahlia Lithwick is joined by Dean Angela Onwuachi-Willig of Boston University School of Law to share the feelings and thinking behind her letter to her students reflecting on recent protests and killings. (Also mentioned, the letter from the Washington State Supreme Court and the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court .) Next, Vanita Gupta of the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights and f...

Slate Money - Systemic Interventions 06.06.2020

This week, Stacy-Marie Ishmael, the editorial director of the Texas Tribune, joins Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Anna Szymanski to talk about the May jobs report, the Black Lives Matter protests, and the economic history of African Americans, and what reparations might look like. In the Slate Plus segment: A longer conversation on corporate donations.  “ Kicked Off the Land ,” by Lizzie Presser fo...

What Next - TBD | Your Delivery Habit Isn't Helping 05.06.2020

In the midst of the pandemic, protests and police lockdowns, restaurants are turning increasingly to delivery apps like DoorDash and Grubhub to stay afloat. But with shady tactics, soaring fees, and deep-seated flaws with the business model of the entire industry, delivery startups may do more harm than good. Guest: Ranjan Roy , CEO at the Edge Group and writer of Margins newsletter Slate Plus mem...

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - Your Delivery Habit Isn't Helping 05.06.2020

In the midst of the pandemic, protests and police lockdowns, restaurants are turning increasingly to delivery apps like DoorDash and Grubhub to stay afloat. But with shady tactics, soaring fees, and deep-seated flaws with the business model of the entire industry, delivery startups may do more harm than good. Guest: Ranjan Roy , CEO at the Edge Group and writer of Margins newsletter Slate Plus mem...

Political Gabfest - Inspecting the Bunker 04.06.2020

Emily, John and David discuss the protests against police brutality and racism, Trump’s increasingly authoritarian response, and the pandemic--with guest Jamelle Bouie. Here are this week’s cocktail chatters: John: Emily Bazelon for the New York Times Magazine: “ What Will College Be Like in the Fall? ” Emily: A River of Stars by Vanessa Hua David:  The Ballad of Songbirds And Snakes by Suzanne Co...

What Next - Larry Kramer Wouldn't Be Quiet 04.06.2020

Larry Kramer always made sure you heard him loud and clear. He was a playwright, a novelist, but he was perhaps best known for his work as an AIDS activist. In the 1980s and 1990s, Kramer sought to wake up the world to the plague that was killing millions of people through provocative demonstrations, fiery essays, and righteous anger. A world class troublemaker, Kramer died last week leaving a bod...

What Next - A History of Violent Protest 03.06.2020

The images are familiar now. The police in their face shields, armed with batons and cans of pepper spray. The protestors, sporting bruises, pouring milk on each others’ faces. What’s happening right now might make you feel uncomfortable and angry. Kellie Carter-Jackson says: that’s the point. Today on the show, why a nice, peaceful protest may not accomplish the structural change America needs. G...

What Next - Caught Between COVID and DACA 02.06.2020

Supreme Court decision days are when Dalia Larios is most nervous. Now a doctor in residency at a hospital in Boston, she spends her time largely thinking about her work, reading the endless amounts of research being published about COVID-19 and studying how her hospital is responding to the pandemic. But it’s those decision days where she finds herself checking her phone a bit more, adding more t...

What Next - Minneapolis Was a Powder Keg 01.06.2020

The Minneapolis police lost the faith of their community long before the death of George Floyd. How did things get so bad?  Guest: Jon Collins , reporter for Minnesota Public Radio and host of 74 Seconds .  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Slate Money - Financial Therapy 30.05.2020

This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Anna Szymanski talk to Amanda Clayman, a therapist who specializes in money issues. Amanda answers listener questions and discusses topics like student loan guilt and pandemic money hoarding. In the Slate Plus segment: Family history and money.    Email:  slatemoney@slate.com Podcast production by Jessamine Molli. Twitter: @felixsalmon , @Three_Guineas , @...

What Next - TBD | Trump and Twitter Go to War 29.05.2020

On Tuesday, after years of inaction, Twitter fact checked President Trump’s tweets for the first time. Six words were added below the original text, directing readers to outside articles refuting his claims. Two days later, the president signed an executive order that aims to change the nature of online speech, and the platforms that host it. Guest: Casey Newton , Silicon Valley editor at the Verg...

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - Trump and Twitter Go to War 29.05.2020

On Tuesday, after years of inaction, Twitter fact checked President Trump’s tweets for the first time. Six words were added below the original text, directing readers to outside articles refuting his claims. Two days later, the president signed an executive order that aims to change the nature of online speech, and the platforms that host it. Guest: Casey Newton , Silicon Valley editor at the Verg...

Political Gabfest - It's Not a Lie, It's a Tweet 28.05.2020

Emily, John and David discuss the Trump vs. Twitter battle, the realities of this partisan pandemic, and U.S.-China relations with guest Sheena Chestnut Greitens. Here are this week’s cocktail chatters: John: Lori Dorn for Laughing Squid: “ A Timeline of the Most Popular TV Shows (1951-2019) ” Emily: Willa Paskin for Slate: “ Mrs. America’s Showrunner on the Show’s Lessons and Its Detractors ” Dav...

What Next - Are We Headed for a Cold War With China? 28.05.2020

On Wednesday, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo announced that Hong Kong was no longer considered autonomous from China by the US government. Tensions were already high between the two global superpowers but with this new escalation, where do they go from here?  Guest: Joshua Keating , staff writer at Slate Slate Plus members get bonus segments and ad-free podcast feeds. Sign up now. Hosted on Acast....

What Next - How the US Can Dodge A Depression 27.05.2020

At 14.7%, US unemployment is at its highest rate since the Great Depression. In the coming months, Washington has a narrow window to avert an even bigger economic disaster. Guest: Jordan Weissmann , Slate’s senior business and economics correspondent. Slate Plus members get bonus segments and ad-free podcast feeds. Sign up now. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

What Next - When Coronavirus Came to Navajo Nation 26.05.2020

No one was ready for this coronavirus. But what’s happening on native lands is the result of generations of neglect.  Guest: Wahleah Johns, co-founder of Native Renewables . Read more from Wahleah here . Read about the history of underfunded health care in native communities here .  Slate Plus members get bonus segments and ad-free podcast feeds. Sign up now. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy...

Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts - Immunity, Impunity, and Justice by the Numbers 23.05.2020

A big show for the long weekend. First, Dahlia Lithwick is joined by Leah Litman of the University of Michigan Law School to discuss oral arguments in the Trump financial records cases, and to get granular with the question of who gets interrupted most in oral arguments over the phone . (Guess what? It’s gendered.) Next, a big picture conversation about the rule of law and global justice before, d...

Slate Money - The Facebook Pandemic 23.05.2020

This week, Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Anna Szymanski talk about the economic of vaccines, how Facebook is totally (unfortunately) winning this pandemic and the question of work from home pay based on where you live. In the Slate Plus segment: The Weight Watchers layoffs .    Email:  slatemoney@slate.com Podcast production by Jessamine Molli. Twitter: @felixsalmon , @Three_Guineas , @ EmilyRPeck...

What Next - TBD | What Is Elon Musk Thinking? 22.05.2020

As the coronavirus shut down manufacturing across California in March and April, Elon Musk only wanted one thing: to start making cars again. So when local government officials in Alameda County got in his way, Musk took the fight public, and won. Guest : Kara Swisher , co-host of the Pivot podcast . Host Lizzie O’Leary Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - What Is Elon Musk Thinking? 22.05.2020

As the coronavirus shut down manufacturing across California in March and April, Elon Musk only wanted one thing: to start making cars again. So when local government officials in Alameda County got in his way, Musk took the fight public, and won. Guest : Kara Swisher , co-host of the Pivot podcast . Host Lizzie O’Leary Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Political Gabfest - L-Shaped Recovery 21.05.2020

Emily, John and David discuss the state of the pandemic; insider trading allegations in the Senate; and Trump’s firing of the watchdog investigating Mike Pompeo. For this week’s Slate Plus bonus segment David, Emily, and John discuss the online videos that have educated and entertained them during social isolation. Slate Plus members get a bonus segment on the Gabfest each week, and access to spec...

What Next - A Summer Without Camp 21.05.2020

In a normal year, the next couple of weeks would be when excited campers returned to summer camp. Now, because of the coronavirus, summer camps are having to make tough calls about how and if they’ll open this year. Guest: Lisa Handelman, camp director at Capital Camps .  Slate Plus members get bonus segments and ad-free podcast feeds. Sign up now. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more i...

What Next - On A Wild Goose Chase for Masks 20.05.2020

The global scarcity of masks has shown us the federal government’s desperate side. Procurement rules have been loosened. Prices have soared. And a shadowy market has emerged where deals fall through all the time -- leaving people without the gear they need to protect themselves and save lives.  Guest: J. David McSwane , reporter for ProPublica.  Slate Plus members get bonus segments and ad-free po...

What Next - Can We Even Trust the Testing Data? 19.05.2020

We closed down the country because we didn’t have enough COVID-19 tests. Now that testing capacity is improving, there’s another problem: figuring out what all this new data means , and who’s reporting accurate figures.  Guest: Robinson Meyer , staff writer at the Atlantic , and part of the team working on the COVID Tracking Project .  Slate Plus members get bonus segments and ad-free podcast feed...

What Next - How Much Trouble Is Senator Richard Burr In? 18.05.2020

A lot happened in February for Senator Ricard Burr (R-NC). He told his constituents that the country was “ready to face the coronavirus.” He told a members-only club that they should expect school closures, canceled travel, and overwhelmed hospitals. And he sold a bunch of his stock. Now, Burr is under a federal investigation for possible insider trading.  Guest: Tim Mak , Washington investigative...

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