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After the Trump administration launched a massive Immigrations and Customs Enforcement operation in Minnesota, protesters gathered to defend immigrant neighbors. Renee Nicole Good, a mother of a six year old, showed up with her wife and dog to film altercations between officers and community members. What happened next changed everything.  Guest: Jon Collins, senior reporter on the Minnesota Public Radio News race, class and communities team. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subsc...

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Slate Money - Wood-Pulp-Based Media 17.04.2021

This week, legendary graphic designer Michael Bierut joins Felix Salmon and Emily Peck to discuss the late Bernie Madoff and his relation to the Coinbase direct listing, the concept of vaccine passports, and print media versus digital media.  In the Plus segment: Logos. Email: slatemoney@slate.com Podcast production by Jessamine Molli. Twitter: @felixsalmon , @EmilyRPeck Hosted on Acast. See acast...

What Next - TBD | Seduced by Substack 16.04.2021

Like countless venture-funded start-ups before it, Substack is “disrupting” the media industry. The newsletter service is siphoning off high-profile talent with a promise of independence and bigger paychecks. But the platform’s influence might reach far beyond the media. Will Substack change the way we think about online creators and their audiences? Can it create a new kind of relationship betwee...

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - Seduced by Substack 16.04.2021

Like countless venture-funded start-ups before it, Substack is “disrupting” the media industry. The newsletter service is siphoning off high-profile talent with a promise of independence and bigger paychecks. But the platform’s influence might reach far beyond the media. Will Substack change the way we think about online creators and their audiences? Can it create a new kind of relationship betwee...

Political Gabfest - Blood Clot 15.04.2021

Emily, John and David discuss the vaccine “pause,” the death of Daunte Wright, and Biden’s commission on the U.S. Supreme Court. Here are some notes and references from this week’s show: Ronald Brownstein for The Atlantic: “ The Decision That Will Define Democrats for a Decade ” Ryan D. Doerfler and Samuel Moyn for The Atlantic: “ Reform the Court, but Don’t Pack It ” Emily Bazelon for The New Yor...

What Next - The Confusion Over Johnson & Johnson 15.04.2021

Federal officials have recommended halting distribution of the Johnson & Johnson coronavirus vaccine, citing rare but potentially severe blood clots. Now, health officials are trying to find out whether or not the clots are connected to the vaccine, creating confusion and sometimes panic for recipients. While the process may seem backwards for some, others say it’s science working the way it’s...

What Next - How Republicans Weaponized Cancel Culture 14.04.2021

Republicans are smart to lean in on “cancel culture” as a campaign issue to unite voters. Dan Pfeiffer of Pod Save America says Democrats have the power to make that a losing strategy for the GOP. Guest: Dan Pfeiffer, co-host of Pod Save America. Slate Plus members get bonus segments and ad-free podcast feeds. Sign up now. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

What Next - The Lab Leak Theory 13.04.2021

How one theory about COVID-19’s origins went from the fringes to the mainstream -- and why it just might be plausible. Guest: Alina Chan , postdoctoral fellow at the Broad Institute of MIT and Harvard. Slate Plus members get bonus segments and ad-free podcast feeds. Sign up now. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Slate Money - Slate Money: Movies: Working Girl 13.04.2021

Welcome to Slate Money Goes to the Movies, a miniseries in which Felix Salmon, Anna Szymanski, and a different guest each week discuss popular business-themed movies.  For the season finale, Jolie Hunt, CEO of Hunt & Gather, joins Felix Salmon and Anna Szymanski to talk about the 80s classic Working Girl . They discuss the class dynamics at play, the actual business taking place in the film, a...

What Next - What's Different About the Chauvin Trial 12.04.2021

As Derek Chauvin stands trial for the murder of George Floyd, prosecutors are determined to show the justice system is going to work in this case. Beyond the courtroom, the future of Minneapolis’s relationship with its police department is an open question. Guest: Jon Collins , class and criminal justice reporter at Minnesota Public Radio. Slate Plus members get bonus segments and ad-free podcast...

Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts - Why Are Republicans Upset About Corporate Free Speech All of a Sudden? 10.04.2021

Dahlia Lithwick is joined by Professor Ciara Torres-Spelliscy , a Brennan Center fellow and professor at Stetson University, to discuss how, when it comes to corporate influence over politics, money talks - but should it actually speak? From Georgia boycotts to campaign finance, and Mitch McConnell’s apparent new take on Citizens United.  In our Slate Plus segment, Mark Joseph Stern joins Dahlia t...

Slate Money - Corporations are People Too 10.04.2021

Yinka Adegoke of Rest of World joins Felix Salmon and Emily Peck to talk about President Joe Biden’s plan to raise corporate taxes, the U.S. housing bubble, and the rise of fintech in emerging markets. In the Plus segment: Is child care infrastructure? Don’t pick up! The Rise and Fall of a Massive Industry Based on Missed Calls by By Atul Bhattarai for Rest of World Email: slatemoney@slate.com Pod...

What Next - TBD | The Rise of the Therapy Apps 09.04.2021

Since the start of the pandemic, usage of apps like BetterHelp and Talkspace has skyrocketed. These apps might make mental health care more accessible, but are the products they sell really the same as therapy? Guest:    Molly Fischer , features writer for the Cut at New York Magazine Host Lizzie O’Leary   Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - The Rise of the Therapy Apps 09.04.2021

Since the start of the pandemic, usage of apps like BetterHelp and Talkspace has skyrocketed. These apps might make mental health care more accessible, but are the products they sell really the same as therapy? Guest:    Molly Fischer , features writer for the Cut at New York Magazine Host Lizzie O’Leary   Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Political Gabfest - Midnight Train From Georgia 08.04.2021

Emily, John and David discuss the corporate backlash to Georgia’s voting restrictions, Matt Gaetz and shamelessness in government, and they are joined by Amanda Ripley to talk about her new book High Conflict. Here are some notes and references from this week’s show: Jonathan Rauch for the Atlantic: “ How American Politics Went Insane ” Insecure Majorities: Congress and the Perpetual Campaign by F...

What Next - One Man’s Mission to Protect Chinatown 08.04.2021

In February 2020, Karlin Chan began a group called the Chinatown Block Watch to patrol his New York City neighborhood and act as a “visual deterrent” to anti-Asian attacks. One year and one pandemic later, Chan’s Block Watch is still patrolling the streets, and taking an expansive view of what it means to keep the community safe. Guest: Karlin Chan, founder of the Chinatown Block Watch. Hosted on...

What Next - How Worried to Be About Michigan 07.04.2021

Michigan is currently home to 13 of the worst performing metro areas when it comes to the coronavirus. They recently surpassed 10,000 new cases and their curve has “gone vertical”. With vaccine distribution ramping up across the country, is the Michigan surge a warning for the rest of the country?  Guest: Abdul El-Sayed, host of America Dissected Slate Plus members get bonus segments and ad-free p...

What Next - Biden’s Big Swing 06.04.2021

Last week, President Biden rolled out an ambitious infrastructure plan that relies on increased taxes on corporations to fund big changes to America’s infrastructure. His plan goes beyond putting pavement on the ground, and lays out a different vision for what "infrastructure" really means. Guest: Jordan Weissmann , Slate’s senior business and economics correspondent.  Slate Plus members get bonus...

Slate Money - Slate Money: Movies: Margin Call 06.04.2021

Welcome to Slate Money Goes to the Movies, a miniseries in which Felix Salmon, Anna Szymanski, and a different guest each week discuss popular business-themed movies.  Lizzie O'Leary, host of Slate’s What Next TBD , joins to talk about Margin Call, the 2011 drama about the financial crisis. They’ll talk about how realistic the film is, the nuanced depiction of the people behind the crisis, and Liz...

What Next - The Bizarre Origin Story of the Gaetz Scandal 05.04.2021

Last week, The New York Times reported that Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz was under investigation by the Justice Department over his relationships with women recruited online for sex, and whether he had sex with a 17-year-old girl. Gaetz gained national attention for his trollish, Trumpian antics and fiery loyalty to the then-president. What happens if the Trump playbook doesn’t work for the 38-year-old...

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - Introducing: ICYMI 04.04.2021

ICYMI is Slate’s new podcast about internet culture. It’s a show for people who have a healthy relationship with the internet, made by people who really, really don’t. It’s hosted by Slate’s Madison Malone Kircher and Rachelle Hampton. Twice a week they’ll explore what’s trending at the top of your feeds, investigate the ghosts of internet past, and help you sound like the smartest person in your...

Slate Money - It’s Finally Infrastructure Week 03.04.2021

Writer and former host of Studio 360, Kurt Andersen, joins Felix Salmon and Emily Peck to talk about Biden’s long awaited and much needed infrastructure plan, the Archegos dustup on Wall Street and the union vote at the Amazon warehouse in Bessemer, Alabama.  In the Plus segment: Post-pandemic Broadway. Email: slatemoney@slate.com Podcast production by Jessamine Molli. Twitter: @felixsalmon , @Emi...

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - The Fight Over Vaccine Passports 02.04.2021

There are at least 17 different “vaccine passport” initiatives underway in the United States. And leaked documents reveal that the Biden administration fears that “a chaotic and ineffective vaccine credential approach could hamper our pandemic response by undercutting health safety measures, slowing economic recovery, and undermining public trust and confidence.”  Without coordination, a chaotic a...

What Next - TBD | The Fight Over Vaccine Passports 02.04.2021

There are at least 17 different “vaccine passport” initiatives underway in the United States. And leaked documents reveal that the Biden administration fears that “a chaotic and ineffective vaccine credential approach could hamper our pandemic response by undercutting health safety measures, slowing economic recovery, and undermining public trust and confidence.”  Without coordination, a chaotic a...

Political Gabfest - Impending Doom 01.04.2021

Emily, David and guest host Andrea Valdez discuss the fourth wave of the virus, Derek Chauvin’s murder trial, and fixing the U.S.’s caregiving infrastructure. Here are some notes and references from this week’s show: How to Be a Texan: The Manual , by Andrea Valdez Ko Bragg for the 19th: “ Four Girls Testified in the Derek Chauvin Trial. Here’s What They Told the Jury. ” The University Will Requir...

What Next - LA’s Housing Crisis Hits A Boiling Point 01.04.2021

Los Angeles’s Echo Park Lake is home to swan boats, running trails and space for members of it’s rapidly gentrifying community to gather during the pandemic. Up until last week, it was also home to over 100 people living in tents on the west side of the park. The encampment became the focal point of LA’s housing affordability crisis when the housed members of the Echo Park neighborhood called for...

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