Curt Jackson
SCamp Life: The Other Side
A bi-weekly look at big picture questions, concerns, and sometimes unpopular opinions in the summer camp industry in hopes of stimulating well rounded conversations among camp teams.
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Curt Jackson
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Apr 1, 2026
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Episodes
Ep 23: Staff Training Ideas and Thoughts 02.11.2023 39:00
This episode was recorded before the 2023 summer season. Shauna and Kelie share their plans for staff training and share some great resources. Take a listen and get some cool ideas for your 2024 staff training. Links: Gamestorming: A Playbook for Innovators, Rulebreakers, and Changemakers (book) How Long To Visiting Day?: Creative Role-Playing for Training Camp Counselors (book) AhaSlides.com (ad...
Ep 22: Sticking Points- A Book Review and Discussion of Generations in the Workplace 19.10.2023 46:26
Shauna and Kelie discuss a recent book they read, Sticking Points by Haydn Shaw about the 4-5 generations that are in the workplace and how it relates to camp!
Ep 21: Our 2023 Summer Recap 04.10.2023 57:09
Shauna and Kelie ARE BACK! In this episode, they recap their VERY different summers. Shauna had her best summer EVER, while Kelie had her hardest. Also, find out why we included a photo of a cactus in the show notes.
Ep 20: Consequences of Actions 02.06.2023 29:14
Kelie and Shauna discuss what constitutes acceptable reasons when to bring a staff member back after they’ve been fired.
Ep 19: Let’s Talk Weed 19.05.2023 34:46
Marijuana! Let’s start the conversation that is soon to be a reality in many camps across the country.
Ep 18: Define CAMP! 26.04.2023 37:35
Shauna and Kelie talk discuss what the definition of camp should be, and who should be able to call themselves a camp. Want to add to our conversation? Have a question you want us to discuss? Email Us: exploringcampsides@gmail.com
Ep 17: Should Pronouns be Mandatory on a Job Application? 11.04.2023 46:45
Kelie and Shauna talk with CJ Greco about if pronouns should be something employers should ask on job applications. Links: CJ Greco's Instagram - @cj.greco TheBirdyBunchPodcast.com Want to add to our conversation? Have a question you want us to discuss? Email Us: exploringcampsides@gmail.com
Ep 16: Should We Be Asking Silly Interview Questions? 09.03.2023 32:43
Kelie and Shauna talk about brain teasers and fun questions during the interview process. Do you ask silly questions when interviewing staff? Want to add to our conversation? Have a question you want us to discuss? Email Us: exploringcampsides@gmail.com
Ep 15: DEI - Bringing it to your Seasonal Staff 20.01.2023 43:51
This week Kelie & Natalie sit down with Carmella Montenegro to discuss the best ways to help support our summer staff through real life DEI conversations. Want to add to our conversation? Have a question you want us to discuss? Email Us: exploringcampsides@gmail.com Links: Here are Carmella Montenegro’s links Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carmela-montenegro/ Twitter: https://twitter.com...
Ep 14: Recapping with First Year Directors 04.01.2023 42:33
In this episode, Kelie and Natalie reconnect with Jonathan and Sami to recount how their first summer as full time Directors went! Want to add to our conversation? Have a question you want us to discuss? Email Us: exploringcampsides@gmail.com Links: Jon’s email: jon@campkadesh Sami’s email: seron@mdausa.org
Ep 13: Camper Choice vs. Group Rotation 20.10.2022 37:27
Natalie is away. So, Kelie brought in some friends, Curt Jackson and Chris Kallal from the SCamp Life: The Programming Side podcast. In this episode they discuss which is better, camper choice where the kids get to choose their activities, or group rotation where the kids are forced to go to each activity.
Ep 12: Quiet Quitting and Summer Camp 29.09.2022 39:53
The new “Quiet Quitting” trend is all over social media. Have you thought about how it will affect your hiring process this summer? Natalie and Kelie start the conversation that you should start thinking about with your team.
Ep 11: We’re Back! 16.09.2022 33:43
Natalie interviews Kelie on her post camp “vacation”. Kelie went back to her home camp to help out, and you’ll never guess what she offered to do! Want to add to our conversation? Have a question you want us to discuss? Email Us: exploringcampsides@gmail.com
Ep 10: The New Director Interview: Overnight Edition 17.06.2022 43:50
Last episode was Day Camp, this week Overnight. Natalie and Kelie speak with Jonathan DuHamel and Sami Eron as they prepare for their first summer as Camp Directors for overnight camps. Want to add to our conversation? Have a question you want us to discuss? Email Us: exploringcampsides@gmail.com Links: Jon’s email: jon@campkadesh Sami's email: seron@mdausa.org
Ep 9: The New Director Interview: Day Camp Edition 31.05.2022 37:35
Kelie and Natalie interview a brand new Day Camp Director, Emily Suggs, as she prepares for her first summer as Camp Director. Want to add to our conversation? Have a question you want us to discuss? Email Us: exploringcampsides@gmail.com Links: Emily’s Email: esuggs@shiawasseeymca.org Camp Shiawassee
Ep 8: Getting to Know Gen Z with Adam Baranker 13.05.2022 45:00
Kelie & Natalie interview Adam Baranker from Jeff Lake Camp about his Gen Z panel he hosted during the ACA Tri-State Conference. Find out what Gen Z needs are when working at camp. Want to add to our conversation? Have a question you want us to discuss? Email Us: exploringcampsides@gmail.com Links: Adam's email: adam@jefflakecamp.com Jeff Lake Camp Adam's Instagram
Ep 7: Why Can’t We Find Staff? Here’s Some Data! 16.04.2022 38:10
Natalie came up with a great survey for high school students in Alabama. In this episode Kelie and Natalie go over their results as to high school student’s perspectives on seasonal employment. We then ask you to share the following survey with any high schools you know. We will share the data via ScampLife in early May. Want to add to our conversation? Have a question you want us to discuss? E...
Ep 6: How has COVID Trauma Effected our Campers with Dr. G 31.03.2022 37:48
Dr. Deborah Gilboa joins Natalie and Kelie to discuss how the 2020’s have affected our adults and the ripple effect to our youth. This is one episode you don’t want to miss!! Want to add to our conversation? Have a question you want us to discuss? Email Us: exploringcampsides@gmail.com Links: Dr. G’s website: askdoctorg.com StressedtoResilient.com
Ep 5: The UnComfy Safety Restrictions – Height, Weight, and Age 17.03.2022 43:34
Natalie talks horse world restrictions of height, weight, and age, and Kelie talks about all the other specialized program areas. The two then go into how to empower your staff to stick to your policies. Want to add to our conversation? Have a question you want us to discuss? Email Us: exploringcampsides@gmail.com
Ep 4: Are we Preparing our Staff for the Real World? 05.03.2022 36:29
In this episode Natalie and Kelie discuss if how we treat our staff is truly preparing them for work in the “real world”. From the start of the interview process through holding them accountable… are we doing enough? Want to add to our conversation? Have a question you want us to discuss? Email Us: exploringcampsides@gmail.com
Ep 3: Seasonal Leadership, Why Pay Them More? 17.02.2022 31:25
Looking for ways to increase your staff salaries? Aren’t we all! Can you take it from leadership salaries? See how the team feels about the positions of General Counselor vs. Unit Lead. Is it something you can do? Want to add to our conversation? Have a question you want us to discuss? Email Us: exploringcampsides@gmail.com
Ep 2: Are We Asking Too Much of Our Staff? 07.02.2022 34:38
This week Kelie and Natalie debate about if we as Directors are asking too much of our seasonal staff. Both reflect on their time as seasonal staff comparing to their expectations now in Director roles and how they train staff. Want to add to our conversation? Have a question you want us to discuss? Email Us: exploringcampsides@gmail.com
Ep 1: Exploring the Other Side of Camp Uniqueness 01.02.2022 28:25
Kelie Cook and Natalie Hamilton introduce the world to ScampLife: The Other Side, the podcast where they explore questions and topics that may not be the norm. In this first episode Kelie and Natalie discuss if they feel camps are losing their uniqueness.
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