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If things had gone differently, right now Boston would be swarmed with athletes and spectators from around the world for the 2024 Summer Olympics. A coordinated grassroots campaign in 2015 shut down a bid to host the games. It turns out - Boston isn’t alone. Movements in cities around the world have since blocked local efforts to host the games. This week on Say More, Shirley talks to political sc...

Boston has two major NPR stations, and in recent months they’ve both slashed jobs and canceled shows. Public media is in a recession. Fewer people are listening to the radio and ad revenue is insufficient. Attacks from the right accuse the network of having a liberal bias. Can these beloved media institutions survive? Shirley discusses the future of NPR with Boston Globe media reporter Aidan Ryan...

The Karen Read case initially caught the attention of a local group of  diehards. But now it’s hard to go anywhere in Massachusetts these days without finding strong opinions about a woman accused of murdering a Boston police officer. After a grueling eight-week trial, and a deadlocked jury, the judge declared a mistrial. This week, Shirley is joined again by Boston Globe reporter Sean Cotter, and...

One solution to burnout is simple: say NO to more stuff. Our plates are too full.  It turns out, many people struggle with saying NO - especially women - especially at work. This phenomenon helped to birth the “No Club” - five women digging into the science of why we can’t just say no to stuff and what to do about it. In a special bonus episode of our BEATING BURNOUT series, Shirley talks to two m...

Sex educator Emily Nagoski didn’t set out to be an expert on stress. But it turns out, stress is affecting peoples’ sex lives, big time. After helping her sister Amelia through two life-threatening burnout episodes, the two got together to write a book about the science of stress and how it leads to burnout. For them, the journey to understanding stress became a deeper quest for sisterhood and mea...

We are living in a time of deep uncertainty, marked by global conflicts, economic anxiety, and societal divisions. No wonder we're so uneasy. Founder and host of the “On Being” podcast Krista Tippett says these uncertain times require a larger spiritual quest for meaning and stillness in modern life. We inhabit a noisy, distracting world of Slacks and texts, and we need to learn how to get quiet....

Cal Newport says we’ve been thinking about productivity all wrong. Cal is an MIT-trained computer scientist and bestselling author specializing in how to work better in our overstimulated world. In this second installment of Say More’s series, BEATING BURNOUT, Shirley talks to Cal about the ways the modern office worker is primed for professional burnout, how hybrid work makes it worse and what we...

Harvard Medical School Dr. Aditi Nerurkar says “COVID accelerated everything,” and now 7 in 10 Americans are facing burnout and stress. While many of us expected the post-pandemic period to be a big party, Dr. Nerurkar explains why many of us are still struggling. And why some of us feel even worse than we did before. In the first installment of Say More’s four-part series BEATING BURNOUT, Dr. Ner...

If you ever thought opera was a dead art, you have never talked to Nina Yoshida Nelsen, the new artistic director of the Boston Lyric Opera. Nina, who is Japanese-American,  spent years feeling pigeon-holed playing Asian roles in Madame Butterfly but she says those feelings were just the start of an exciting conversation about the future of the art form. This week on Say More, Shirley talks to Nin...

It’s hard to say the exact mix of mystery and intrigue that causes a true crime story to blow up. But one thing is true: the viral stories tell us something important about ourselves. Right now in Massachusetts, many people are fervently following the trial over whether Karen Read murdered her boyfriend, Boston police officer John O’Keefe. Some say she’s simply guilty, and some say she’s being ela...

Daniela Rus’s dream is to imbue the power of robotics with the wisdom of humanity. She runs MIT’s Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory. As part of his ongoing series on the promise and perils of AI, Globe Ideas Editor Brian Bergstein talks to Rus about her new book “The Heart and the Chip.” She says robots won’t just do our chores and work in our factories; they can teach us how...

Author Amy Tan doesn’t just watch birds, she “feels the life within them.” Amy’s new book, “The Backyard Bird Chronicles” takes us into her daily journal, drawing and musing on the lives of birds in her backyard in California. Shirley Leung talks to Amy about her breakthrough novel, “The Joy Luck Club,” the agony of fiction writing, and whether she considers herself an Asian-American writer or jus...

Climate change isn’t just one thing, it’s a million things. It’s “everything everywhere all at once,” according to acclaimed author and New Yorker writer Elizabeth Kolbert. In her new book “H is for Hope,” Elizabeth goes through the letters of the alphabet explaining the complexities of climate change and musing on weather, power, hope, despair and everything in between.  She joins Shirley this Ea...

Doris Kearns Goodwin is a historian who is best known for writing about America's presidents, from Abraham Lincoln to Lyndon B. Johnson. She has a new book out, and this time it’s personal. In "An Unfinished Love Story: A Personal History of the 1960s," Doris tells the story of her late husband Dick Goodwin, who was a speechwriter for Presidents Kennedy and Johnson. Dick was supposed to write the...

Khan Academy has taught millions of students the fundamentals of math and science, as well as topics ranging from economics to art history. As part of his ongoing series on the promise and perils of AI, Globe Ideas Editor Brian Bergstein talks to Khan Academy founder Sal Khan about the ways that artificial intelligence can (and will) revolutionize education. Sal introduces Brian to “Khanmigo,” an...

If you liked our last episode with Frontline executive producer Raney Aronson-Rath, you might like this bonus episode. It’s from a new podcast called “Pulitzer on the Road” from our friends at the Pulitzer Prizes. The Boston Globe’s executive editor Nancy Barnes talks to Associated Press journalist Mstyslav Chernov about his Oscar-winning documentary “20 Days in Mariupol." The film is a stunning f...

Boston-based Frontline has been making documentaries for 40 years, and this year, they took home their first Academy Award for their documentary “20 Days in Mariupol”. The documentary is a first-hand account of the first days of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in the winter of 2022. The documentary contains gripping and heartbreaking stories of war. It also is a work of journalism, documenting the fa...

In courts across the country, a war is being waged on federal agencies that ensure clean air, safe drugs and fair banking. These agencies, such as the Environmental Protection Agency and the Food and Drug Administration, are sometimes referred to as the “administrative state.” Conservative groups are increasingly using legal action to undermine the powers of these regulators. Today on Say More, gu...

Bob Rivers, the CEO and chair of Eastern Bank, sits down with Shira Center, the general manager for editorial revenue and strategy at Boston Globe Media, to talk about the bank’s history, its work on diversity and inclusion, and its approach to community investment. Globe Opinion was not involved in the creation or execution of this episode, which was produced by Studio/B, Boston Globe Media’s spo...

Everyone’s afraid to fail, but today’s guest says we shouldn’t be. In fact, we should welcome it. Harvard Business School Professor Amy Edmondson says that “failure isn’t final” and that it’s often the first step toward great ideas and innovation. She tells Shirley that the most successful people fail more, not less, than the rest of us. Amy also shares the concept of “psychological safety,:— an e...

Men and boys are less likely to excel in high school or go to college. They are more likely to get hooked on drugs or die of suicide. More broadly, boys and men are at a crossroads. While the #MeToo movement has provided a needed global reckoning for women and girls, it left boys with a long list of “don’ts” without enough “dos.” This week on Say More, author and scholar Richard Reeves talks to Sh...

Stovetop mac-and-cheese is a simple dish, but there are many ways to get there.  Deb Perelman, founder of the Smitten Kitchen blog, and New York Times food columnist J. Kenji López-Alt could spend hours discussing the art of perfecting a recipe—in fact they often do. They are the hosts of the new podcast The Recipe with Kenji and Deb. This week on Say More, they join Shirley to talk about what the...

It’s not just you. Many Americans feel disempowered and unmotivated to participate in the political process. This week’s guests, Sarah Stewart Holland and Beth Silvers of the “Pantsuit Politics” podcast, have been called “America’s political therapists.” They talk with Shirley about this year’s “deeply weird” presidential race, voter malaise, the trickiness of talking about a candidate’s age and h...

Throughout the last half-century more of our stuff has been made somewhere else. Much of the manufacturing that formed the economic backbone of US regional economies has relocated to distant countries. Today on Say More, Shirley talks to Boston author and journalist Rachel Slade, who says it’s not only possible to bring manufacturing back to the US, but necessary. Her new book is called “Making It...