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Trump’s China policy? Jane Perlez says “I don’t think anybody knows.” 13.03.2025 25:24
Former New York Times Beijing bureau chief Jane Perlez will pay $1 million to whoever knows what President Trump will do when it comes to China. Ok, not really, but Jane says Trump’s plans are hugely important, and anyone’s guess. Jane is now a fellow at Harvard University’s Kennedy School, and is the host of the podcast, Face-Off: The U.S. vs China. This week on Say More, Jane talks to The Boston...
Republicans Vs. Mayor Wu. Who won? 07.03.2025 25:52
Boston Mayor Michelle Wu was called to Washington this week to answer questions about Boston’s so-called "sanctuary city” status. At a Congressional hearing, she, and 3 other blue-city mayors, were grilled by Republicans who say that Boston’s lack of collaboration with federal immigration officials puts residents in danger. Wu refuted this point, and defended her policies. On Say More this week, h...
Dr. Ashish Jha says experts made serious mistakes during the COVID pandemic 27.02.2025 33:06
The first days of the COVID pandemic feel like a movie looking back: we watched in horror as the virus ravaged China, Italy, and Iran - and wondered if we would be next. Now, five years later, we know what happened: the economy suffered from a prolonged shutdown, more than one million Americans died, and political polarization reached an all-time high. One person leading us through the chaos was p...
Murder or Suicide? Breaking the Sandra Birchmore Story 20.02.2025 28:46
The story of Sandra Birchmore may never have made headlines if it wasn’t for Laura Crimaldi, a Boston Globe reporter who spent years following the trail of Birchmore’s life and tragic death. While Birchmore’s death was originally ruled as a suicide, follow up investigations showed she was involved in an inappropriate relationship with a married Stoughton police officer, starting when she was a min...
Boston’s Mayor Had a Baby In an Election Year, Will it Help Her or Hurt Her? 12.02.2025 27:51
Michelle Wu is the first Boston Mayor to have a baby while in elected office, and while it was unprecedented, it wasn’t much of a news story. Pregnancy is increasingly normalized for powerful women, which is a sign of progress. But Wu’s decision to forgo maternity leave brings up important questions about the politics of motherhood: Can a champion of paid family leave justify not taking it herself...
Alcohol is Actually Bad for You, and other Lessons from ‘Damp January’ 06.02.2025 24:16
Surveys show that more and more Americans put down the bottle this January to try out drinking less. For some people, the goal was sobriety, and for others, moderation. Researchers are finding that alcohol consumption is going down in general across the population after spiking during the pandemic. Helping the cause are some stark recommendations from top health officials saying alcohol can cause...
Jenny Boylan on Humanizing the Trans Experience 30.01.2025 28:49
Writer Jenny Boylan is perplexed about why trans people “finding their peace” has resulted in such outrage from much of the American public. She moves forward in the only way she knows how: by continuing to write and tell stories about the humanity of the trans experience. Jenny transitioned 25 years ago and in that time she has seen the culture change dramatically when it comes to treatment of tr...
Are We Ready for Trump 2.0? A Boston Globe Roundtable 23.01.2025 28:46
It happened. Trump was sworn in as 47th president of the United States, as only the second person in history to serve non-consecutive terms. Trump laid out a detailed list of priorities during his speech, but it’s still unclear what he will actually do, and what the Trump 2.0 coalition will look like. Will he stick to his populist roots? Or continue cozying up to billionaires? Will we see a new re...
THE COMMENT SECTION: When Pets Die. Readers Shared Their Stories. 16.01.2025 32:45
You wrote in, and we read everything. Say More’s THE COMMENT SECTION is a monthly exploration of the many forms of reader engagement found within the pages of Boston Globe Opinion. This week, we talked to columnist Marcela García about her pet stories. Recently, Marcela covered a fraught court case about pet euthanasia, and hundreds of readers wrote in about their own experiences. We also checked...
How Will We Remember Biden? Transformation or Failure? 09.01.2025 28:52
In modern US politics, no one’s star has risen and fallen more times than Joe Biden’s. His life has been defined by the worst personal tragedy and the greatest professional success. After decades in politics, Biden leaves office with arguably his biggest failure, the loss of the presidency to Donald Trump. Will this final failure define the Biden presidency? Or will we think about him differently...
When Power and Diversity Clash at Harvard 02.01.2025 29:52
The last 12 months were tumultuous on Harvard’s campus: pro-Palestinian encampments took over the quad, students were suspended, and a university president lost her job. If those things weren’t enough, the story coincided with conservative activism happening throughout the country working against diversity programs - with a particular eye on Harvard. Could the events of the last year foreshadow th...
RERUN: Amy Tan is Obsessed with Birds 26.12.2024 37:28
Author Amy Tan doesn’t just watch birds, she “feels the life within them.” Amy’s new book, “The Backyard Bird Chronicles” takes us into her daily journal, drawing and musing on the lives of birds in her backyard in California. Shirley Leung talks to Amy about her breakthrough novel, “The Joy Luck Club,” the agony of fiction writing, and whether she considers herself an Asian-American writer or jus...
Health Insurance Anger is Boiling Over 19.12.2024 27:00
The murder of a healthcare CEO has led to an overdue conversation about health insurance in the US. The reaction to the news is revealing a visceral anger about the unfairness and dysfunction of how we pay for healthcare. What makes our system so frustrating for people? And what are the solutions? On Say More this week, host Shirley Leung turns to Casey Ross, an investigative reporter with Stat Ne...
The Reporter Behind the Shelby Hewitt Story 12.12.2024 28:18
Usually it’s easy to tell a con artist’s motivations. Some do it for money, power or access. Some, however, do it for reasons hard to understand. The Boston Globe recently exposed an incomprehensible con: a 33-year old-woman who posed as a destitute teenage high school student. Her name is Shelby Hewitt. She enrolled in public high school under different names and created the identities of two soc...
Josh Foer Wants Us to be Curious about Everything 05.12.2024 22:44
If there is one thing to know about writer and entrepreneur Josh Foer: he wants to learn EVERYTHING. Tying his projects together is an endless curiosity about our world. On this episode of Say More, editorial page editor Jim Dao journeys to Somerville to visit one of Josh’s projects: Lehrhaus, the world’s first Jewish tavern and house of learning. They discuss modern Jewish life and one of Josh’s...
BONUS: WBUR's The Common: A vibe check on Boston nightlife 02.12.2024 30:03
This week on Say More, we share a podcast episode from our friends at Boston’s NPR station WBUR. Find new episodes of The Common here, hosted by Darryl C. Murphy Last spring, the City of Boston welcomed its inaugural Director of Nightlife Economy, Corean Reynolds. You might have heard some people refer to her as the “night czar,” though that’s not her official title. Now that she’s been in her pos...
Connie Chung Has More to Say 21.11.2024 30:40
Until recently, Connie Chung didn’t realize what her TV career meant to millions of Asian Americans who saw her on the nightly news. While they watched her breaking barriers, she was focused on being the best possible journalist she could be: camping out for high-profile interviews and delivering scoops. Now, Connie is coming to terms with her legacy. She talks to Shirley about her new memoir “Con...
Should Democrats be Freaking Out? A Boston Globe roundtable. 14.11.2024 26:33
After a big election, it’s easy to point to all the things the winners did right and the losers did wrong. But where does the Democratic Party go from here? Globe writers James Pindell and Adrian Walker say there’s hope for Democrats in the future, but they need to find a way to reconnect with their voters. Shirley asks why more Black voters were drawn to Trump, whether a woman can ever be elected...
What The Election Was About. Globe Opinion Has Thoughts. 07.11.2024 23:47
Whether you like it or not, America made a clear choice in the 2024 presidential election. Donald Trump won decisively, and Kamala Harris fell short. What exactly happened? On Say More, Shirley Leung talks to Globe Opinion writers Joan Vennochi and Carine Hajjar about national results. They also discuss how New England is shifting right like the rest of the country. Email us at saymore@globe.com. ...
He Bought the Celtics to Win a Championship or Die Trying 31.10.2024 25:27
If you ask Celtics lead owner Wyc Grousbeck why he wanted to buy a sports team, he has a hard time explaining why. Isn’t it just obvious? If you love your hometown team and you love to compete, what could be better? When he and his family engineered the purchase of the Celtics in 2002, Wyc vowed to “win Banner 17 or I will die trying.” The Celtics recently raised Banner 18, and he and his family a...
Dan Shaughnessy on the Best Sports Story Ever Told 24.10.2024 29:22
If you ask Globe sports columnist Dan Shaughnessy the best story he’s ever covered, the answer is easy: the 2004 Red Sox. After 86 years of losing, the team finally won the World Series - with a dramatic comeback over their rivals the New York Yankees. Dan was there for every game, and even played a role in reversing the curse when he wrote a scathing column that fired up the team. On the 20th ann...
Protests, Arrests, and a Free Speech Crisis on Campus 17.10.2024 31:27
Campus newspapers are not just a way to train a next generation of reporters and editors; they also provide great real time reporting about what’s going on in the hearts and minds of young people. The most controversial story on campus this past year has been protests against the Israel-Hamas war in the Middle East. On Say More, Shirley talks to three student journalists from Northeastern, Emerson...
Phil Eng Says the MBTA is the “Best in the World.” Is he Crazy? 09.10.2024 29:51
MBTA General Manager Phil Eng says our train system in Boston is the “best in the world.” That might seem laughable, but he makes the case that the city’s transit system might not be the fastest or biggest, but what it lacks in modern amenities, it makes up for in “character.” This week on Say More, Phil talks to Shirley about his childhood working at his parents’ Chinese laundromat, where he lear...
How to be a Better Boymom 03.10.2024 26:22
We’ve all heard of the girldad, but what about the boymom? Parenting boys has always been a challenge, but in the age of #metoo, incels and the manosphere, navigating boyhood feels especially hard. Shirley has two sons and worries about raising them right. This week on Say More, she talks to fellow boymom, Ruth Whippman, who just wrote the book, “Boymom: Reimagining Boyhood in the Age of Impossibl...
THE COMMENT SECTION: You Wrote In, We Listened 26.09.2024 28:54
You wrote in, and we read everything. Say More’s THE COMMENT SECTION will be a monthly exploration of the many forms of reader engagement found within the pages of Boston Globe Opinion. The spectrum begins with the lively, often passionate, and usually anonymous online comments on viral essays, and ends with the thoughtful signed letters to the editor, printed daily in the paper. Today’s guests ar...
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