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SaaS Therapy

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Get comfy. It's time for "SaaS Therapy," with industry veterans Todd Kirk and Casey Trujillo – the podcast for customer-facing teams in SaaS. Casey and Todd leverage their experience working between software vendors and their clients to help you master your SaaS customer relationships. They dig into the complexities of client relationships, offer expert insights, and share proven strategies for overcoming common challenges. It's not just a podcast—it's a masterclass in nurturing and enhancing your SaaS customer connections.

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Latest episode

Nov 4, 2026

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Episodes

Check-In: Overcoming the fear of AI in the workplace 07.06.2024

In this SaaS Therapy short, Casey discusses the power of AI and shares a case study of a manufacturing organization that wanted to make their employees aware of AI. Casey emphasizes the importance of setting proper expectations about AI and communicating its benefits to users. Takeaways: AI is only going to get better, so it's important to let customers know that the current use cases are just...

Using AI to enhance customer relationships with Guy Galon, VP of CS @Obrela 04.06.2024

How will AI impact customer success? Hear from Casey, Todd and guest Guy Galon, a seasoned customer success executive and strategic advisor about the role of AI in CS automation, onboarding, and support. Join the discussion on the importance of finding the right balance between human and AI capabilities. They also discuss the potential of AI in generating content and improving customer engagement....

Building confidence in customer education with Vicky Kennedy, CEO @Echtus 28.05.2024

Todd and Casey are joined by Vicky Kennedy, an expert in customer education. They discuss the shift in market and the needs of companies when it comes to customer education. They also explore the challenges faced by both customers and SaaS vendors in providing effective education. Vicky emphasizes the importance of developing an education strategy before choosing a learning management system (LMS)...

Meeting end users where they are 24.05.2024

Let's talk about the challenge of reaching the end users of a SaaS application and ensuring they are using it effectively. Casey Trujillo shares a personal experience of running a challenging race as a metaphor for the difficulty of reaching the last mile. The main takeaways include the importance of understanding end users' needs and goals, simplifying the adoption process, and leveraging...

Who owns the value in a SaaS relationship? 21.05.2024

Value ownership in a SaaS relationship is a shared responsibility between the customer and the SaaS vendor. Listen to Todd Kirk and Casey Trujillo while they discuss the challenges of customer churn and explore the concept of value ownership, including how it shifts throughout the customer journey. They identify three main challenges that SaaS vendors face in empowering customers to achieve their...

The value of coaching in the workplace with Mark Stagi, VP of CS @Avoma 15.05.2024

Todd and Casey are joined by Mark, a customer success leader with over 20 years of experience. They discuss the importance of coaching in the workplace and how it translates to supporting customers and employees. Mark shares his approach to coaching, which includes game tape playback, team meetings, and peer-to-peer coaching. Takeaways: Leaders should focus on growing other leaders and nurturing i...

The power of building a customer community with Heather Wendt, community strategist @HigherLogic 07.05.2024

Welcome to Season 2 of SaaS Therapy! Today, Todd Kirk interviews Heather Wendt, a community strategist at HigherLogic, about the importance of building a customer community. They discuss how a community can expand the reach of customer success teams, foster organic and transparent communication, and provide a space for customers to collaborate and share insights. Heather emphasizes the difference...

End of Season 1: Highlights from our favorite episodes 03.05.2024

Welcome to the last episode of Season 1! For today, Casey reviews the top five learnings from Season 1. The learnings include the importance of having meaningful conversations with customers, hiring the right people at the right time, addressing the last mile problem in customer engagement, understanding the impact of executive usage on renewal, and the difference between a coach and a champion in...

Don't settle: Solve the SaaS "last mile" problem 30.04.2024

Today, Todd and Casey delve into the current challenges in the SaaS industry, focusing on the concept of the 'last mile' and its relevance to customer success and education. They tackle issues like customer churn and software underutilization, emphasizing the importance of innovative solutions in SaaS companies. Takeaways: The last mile accounts for a significant portion of the overall cos...

The shift from reactive to proactive customer success with Greg Daines, CEO @ChurnRX 24.04.2024

Enjoy this special episode from last week's live podcast recording event hosted at Silicon Slopes! In this episode, Todd Kirk talks with our guest, Greg Daines, who shares his research and industry knowledge on the importance of shifting from a reactive to a proactive mindset in customer success. Greg emphasizes that customer results, rather than customer satisfaction, drive retention. Their c...

Surviving the SaaS startup rollercoaster with Kat Kennedy, General Partner @ Kickstart Fund 23.04.2024

Todd and Casey are joined by Kat Kennedy, a General Partner at Kickstart Fund to discuss growth, challenges, and opportunities in the SaaS industry. Kat reminds listeners of the importance of staying committed to a vision and surrounding yourself with the right people. Kat Kennedy discusses the different stages of a startup and the types of people needed at each stage. She emphasizes the importanc...

Check-in: The power of saying no 19.04.2024

Join Todd Kirk as he recaps Tuesday's episode on the importance of data in building and maintaining customer relationships. He explores the different perspectives on bad data and how it can be used to inform decision-making and drive growth. There is power in saying 'no' and value in negative feedback in both personal and professional development. Takeaways Be intentional about deliver...

Why bad client results are actually a good thing 16.04.2024

Have you heard the story of how negative feedback transformed Instagram from a gaming app to a photo-sharing platform? Todd and Casey discuss how bad data can sometimes be good. Negative feedback can be valuable in shaping successful products. They emphasize the need for honest feedback in building effective business relationships and the role of data in driving improvement. Takeaways Data, whethe...

Check-In: Start a conversation using NPS 12.04.2024

Todd Kirk reviews a conversation with Dave Blake, CEO of ClientSuccess.com, about the importance of embracing vocal customers and the value of Net Promoter Score (NPS). Todd emphasizes that NPS can be a valuable tool when used correctly to understand customer sentiment and experience. He advises against using NPS for individual performance evaluation and suggests having the survey come from someon...

Getting more from NPS than feedback with Dave Blake, CEO @Client Success 09.04.2024

What role does the Net Promoter Score (NPS) play in customer success? Join Dave Blake, the founder and CEO of Client Success, as he shares how NPS can be used as a tool to understand the customer experience, rather than the sole predictor of customer retention or churn. Dave shares best practices for implementing NPS, including the frequency of surveys, the importance of genuine feedback, and the...

Check-in: Moving up the ladder from MAU metrics 05.04.2024

In this Friday's recap, Casey Trujillo reminds us of the importance of moving beyond monthly active usage (MAU) as the sole indicator of customer success in the SaaS industry. He shares the 'watermelon theory' concept and explains how you can use the ladder framework today to progressive from simple goals like education and adoption to better aligned software use with customer's go...

SaaS Metrics: Why MAU isn't the silver bullet and where to look instead 02.04.2024

Is MAU really the best way to know if your customers are engaged? Join  Todd Kirk  and  Casey Trujillo  as they discuss the role of monthly active usage (MAU) in SaaS businesses. They explore how MAU, while important, is just one metric that tells the story of how well your customers are doing. The episode introduces the ‘ladder’ concept, linking adoption to behavior change and organizational impa...

Check-in: Rethinking the Customer Education experience 29.03.2024

Highlights of our conversation with Ashley DeKerlegand, Director of Customer Education @ Quickbase where we discuss the need for updated instructional design models and a focus on outcomes. Chapters 00:00 The Challenge of Educating Customers 01:06 Outdated Instructional Design Models 03:20 Customer Education and Adoption 04:13 Incorporating Feedback from Customers 05:11 Continuous Improvement and...

"Is it time for an LMS revolution?" with Ashley DeKerlegand, Director of Customer Education @ Quickbase 26.03.2024

Summary Do you like your LMS? In this episode of SaaS Therapy, Ashley DeKerlegand from Quickbase discusses the limitations of traditional learning and development (L&D) approaches in the SaaS industry. She highlights the challenges of using the ADDIE model and SCORM in a rapidly changing SaaS environment. Ashley emphasizes the importance of customer feedback and collaboration between L&D a...

Check-in: Practicing golden questions & golden silence with customers 22.03.2024

Sometimes what customers say they want is different than what they actually want. Today, we're re-capping how to use "the magic wand" question to uncover the real pains, challenges and goals you client has. The closer you can get to unearthing that information, the better shot you have at delivering the kind of value that really matters to your clients. Takeaways Maintaining open com...

Golden questions & golden silence: Using questions to build more focused client relationships 19.03.2024

Stop wasting the first 5-minutes of your client calls. There are better ways to personally connect with clients, show them that you see and understand them, and then get to work on defining their ideal future state. Today we're covering practical steps for asking better questions and using active listening with your clients. Takeaways Customer success managers should focus on helping customers...

Check-in: Mapping the new funnel with Justin Edwards, SVP of Revenue @ Mercato Partners 15.03.2024

Only 28% of clients report that their QBR is valuable to them. What else are we doing that just doesn't work? today, we're recapping the highights of our recent conversation about the levers in our control to re-shape the funnel, with Justin Edwards, the lead of the revenue practice with Mercato Partners. Takeaways SaaS companies are facing challenges due to changes in the economy and grow...

Taking control of the broken funnel with Justin Edwards, SVP of Revenue @ Mercato Partners 12.03.2024

Today, we're joined by Justin Edwards, SVP of Revenue @ Mercato Partners (a venture capital fund supporting early-stage technology companies). In his role, Justin works closely with revenue teams in tech startups as an expert growth advisor. In this episode, Justin discusses the biggest challenge facing startups today - the decline in growth rate, and what Customer Success teams can do to take...

Check-in: Using MEDDPICC to keep a pulse on retention health 08.03.2024

Our Friday re-cap of MEDDPICC, the framework for understanding and predicting the likelihood of a sale or renewal. Today, Casey reminds listeners of the key parts of MEDDPICC and how to start putting the framework into action. Takeaways MEDDPICC is a methodology to help customer success managers and sales reps understand the likelihood of customer renewal. Champions within customer organizations a...

Why clients buy vs. why they renew - using MEDDPICC to keep up with clients' evolving needs 05.03.2024

The first year of a new customer's contract is key to how long they'll stay a customer. But account teams often find themselves in reactive mode as clients' priorities, key points of contact, and budgets shift. In this episode, Todd and Casey discuss MEDDPICC - a framework for account teams to use as they move a customer from purchase to renewal in a shifting landscape. Did your produc...

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