Ben Murray

SaaS Metrics School

Business EN ↓ 380 episodes

Ben Murray brings you actionable SaaS metrics lessons that he has learned through years of being in the SaaS CFO trenches. Whether you are new to SaaS or a SaaS veteran, learn the latest SaaS and AI metrics, finance, and accounting tactics that drive financial transparency and improved decision-making. Ben’s SaaS metrics blog consistently rates a 70+ NPS, and his templates have been downloaded over 100,000 times. There is always something to learn about SaaS and AI metrics.

Author

Ben Murray

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Business

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www.thesaasacademy.com

Latest episode

Jul 2, 2026

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Episodes

Founders You Must Be Profitable on Your Services Revenue 01.03.2024

In episode #180, I address professional services revenue. PS revenue required to set up, configure, onboard, and train your customers. And essential department when selling mid-market and enterprise software. - What is professional services? - What are standard margins on services revenue? - The battle between Sales and PS - You must make margin! Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS metrics newsletter: https:/...

How Do I Calculate Retention if I Have Consumption Revenue? 29.02.2024

In episode #179, I address revenue retention and variable revenue streams. This can be tricky if our variable revenue offers no consistency. Period of measurement is key. - Variable revenue streams - Period of measurement - Cohort analysis - Month 13 Grab my retention template in this free course:  https://www.thesaasacademy.com/pl/2148292708

How I Use the Rule of 40 When You Are Less Than 10M ARR 27.02.2024

In episode #178, I address the proper time to use the Rule of 40. There are a lot of opinions here on when to implement this metric. Some say above 25M in ARR. Some say 50M ARR. - What is the Rule of 40? - Your funding environment matters - When to use this metric - When is it a red flag Rule of 40 post:  https://www.thesaascfo.com/rule-of-40-saas/

Pass 90% of Your SaaS Peers with These 4 Finance Steps 23.02.2024

In episode #177, I address the 4 things you can do to pass 90% of SaaS peers in financial maturity. - Your Chart of Accounts - The Proper SaaS P&L - Department Coding - Revenue Recognition Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS monthly newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/df1db6bf8bca/the-saas-cfo-sign-up-landing-page SaaS...

How I Assess the Setup of Your SaaS P&L 21.02.2024

In episode #176, I address the structure of your SaaS P&L. This is my top requested coaching session from founders and finance teams. You must get this right. - Your chart of accounts - Your revenue section - Your COGS section - Your OpEx section - Department coding - Rev rec SaaS P&L template:  https://www.thesaascfo.com/saas-pl-explained/

Where Does Customer Success Expense Belong on Your SaaS P&L 20.02.2024

In episode #175, I address the hotly debated topic of customer success expense. Where do we code wages and bonuses? To get this right, we must first define the role of CS in your SaaS company. - What is the role of CS? - Code in COGS, OpEx, or potentially both Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS monthly newsletter: htt...

Does Expansion MRR or ARR Include Renewals? 19.02.2024

In episode #174, I address bookings, renewals, and expansion. These data points can get confusing if we don’t define them correctly. - When is a renewal a booking? - When is a renewal NOT a booking? - Does renewal impact expansion MRR? Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS monthly newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/df1db6bf8...

What is the Impact of Gross Revenue Retention on Valuation? 18.02.2024

In episode #173, I address a student question this week in my SaaS Metrics Foundation course. We must understand our GRR, benchmarks, and how third parties will judge our SaaS business. Check out episode #59 on gross revenue retention for more details. - What is GRR? - Valuation impact - Benchmark data sources Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscr...

What Revenue Streams Should Be Included in Our MRR Schedule? 16.02.2024

In episode #172, I address revenue streams and MRR schedules. This is no joking matter. Our metrics and valuation depend on clean data. - Common SaaS revenue streams - MRR schedules - Combining MRR schedules Grab my template to create your MRR schedule in this free course: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/offers/gmbMDsYN/checkout

What is the Source of Truth for Bookings Data? 14.02.2024

In episode #171, I address the number one SaaS data mistake. Poor or no tracking of bookings data. Check out episode #25 for a bookings breakdown. - What is the source of truth? - Tips and tricks - ACV, TCV, revenue categories - New vs. expansion Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS monthly newsletter: https://mailchi.m...

Can We Treat One-time Purchases as Variable Revenue? 13.02.2024

In episode #170, I address revenue classifications on our SaaS P&L. We must keep clear and distinct revenue categories. - SaaS revenue categories - One-time versus recurring - Subscription services Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS monthly newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/df1db6bf8bca/the-saas-cfo-sign-up-landing-p...

If You Can’t Close Your Books Timely This is What Happens 08.02.2024

In episode #169, I address the financial close process. AKA, closing your books. This must be done timely and accurately every month. If not, you lose financial transparency and decision-making ability. - The slow close - The impact of taking forever to close your books Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS monthly newsl...

4 Mistakes When SaaSifying Your Accounting Foundation 07.02.2024

In episode #168, I address the four common mistakes with your accounting. I see this over and over in my client and coaching base. Learn from their mistakes. - Your chart of accounts - Your SaaS P&L structure - Your department coding - Your revenue recognition SaaS CFO Template Lessons:  https://www.thesaasacademy.com/offers/gmbMDsYN/checkout Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS metrics newsletter: ht...

I’m Running Financially Blind and I Don’t Know What to Do 31.01.2024

In episode #167, I address a common founder issue. Running financially blind. I’ve seen a lot of bad data and financials lately. Even after reviewing 100’s SaaS financial statements, there are financials where I couldn’t even take a guess as to how good or bad the company is performing. - Running financially blind - 4 key data sources - Where to start first to improve visibility Subscribe to Ben’s...

Who Should Track Time In Your SaaS Company 30.01.2024

In episode #166, I address a common discussion lately. Time tracking. It’s important to get your headcount roster coded correctly. However, we don’t want over allocate. - HRIS data - Wearing multiple “hats” - Time tracking Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS monthly newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/df1db6bf8bca/the-saas-...

This is the Tech Being Used in SaaS Companies 29.01.2024

In episode #165, I address the tech stack being used in SaaS companies. I just released my 5th Annual SaaS Tech Stack Report. It covers 21 software categories and debt financing - 21 software categories - debt financing - 535 participants - It’s not a market map Download the report here:  https://www.thesaascfo.com/surveys/finance-accounting-tech-stack-survey/

Don’t Comingle Your Revenue Streams 23.01.2024

In episode #164, I address an important topic that has come up a lot lately. The clarity and definition of your revenue streams. Don’t comingle them! - SaaS revenue streams - Your chart of accounts - Your revenue metrics Free templates course: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/offers/gmbMDsYN/checkout Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe Sub...

The Big Bucket of Expenses and Running Financially Blind 19.01.2024

In episode #163, I address a common financial setup mistake that prevents you from making informed financial decisions. - Big bucket of expenses - Financial structure - Cash burn Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS monthly newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/df1db6bf8bca/the-saas-cfo-sign-up-landing-page SaaS Metrics course...

The Advisors You Need When Selling Your Company 13.01.2024

In episode #162, I address the advisors you need when exiting. Don’t go it alone! Transactions are very complicated. - Investment Banker - Tax CPA - Accounting CPA - Corporate M&A Attorney - Going it alone? Contact me for my rolodex:  https://www.thesaascfo.com/contact/  

I Need at Least 3 Months to Prep Your Metrics for Due Diligence 12.01.2024

In episode #161, I address the time needed to accurately prepare your SaaS metrics. I talk to many founders who have kicked off an informal exit process. They need forecasts and metrics ASAP for due diligence. Often, it is too late to help. Ideally, we have 6 months to get your data in order. - Time needed to prep your data - Ideally, we have 6 months Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS metrics newsletter: ht...

VC Fundable Growth Rates 11.01.2024

In episode #160, I review growth rates that are considered VC fundable. I find growth rates to be very subjective based on the audience. Are we talking to VC or PE? Let’s not get caught up in the hype. I cover the growth rates posted by Jason Lemkin in a SaaStr post and Benchmarkit. AI growth rates. - Lemkin’s view of growth rates - Benchmarkit.ai growth rates - Bootstrappers, let’s not get caught...

How to Handle Unknown Churn in Your Reporting 08.01.2024

Episode 159 – How to Handle Unknown Churn in Your Reporting In episode #159, I address a reader's question. This is very common for SaaS companies that target mid-market and above customers. You send the renewal invoice but don’t hear back from the customer. Is this churn? When should I report it as churn? - Churn reporting when you don’t hear back from the customer Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS metrics...

The Ultimate SaaS CFO KPI Checklist 04.01.2024

In episode #158, I share my SaaS CFO KPI checklist. I'm holding a free training on this checklist on Jan 17. Register at the link below. - My steps to spin up SaaS metrics - SaaS metrics checklist Register here:  https://www.thesaasacademy.com/pl/2148142066 Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS metrics newsletter:   https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS mont...

You Need Bookings Alignment with Your Forecast 02.01.2024

In episode #157, I address bookings and budgets or forecasts. You really cannot create a proper forecast or budget without bookings targets. This is similar to my days in the airlines where we needed the capacity plan first. Otherwise, how do we know what resources we need to support our targets. - Bookings alignment - Revenue - Headcount planning - S&M efficiency metrics Subscribe to Ben’s Sa...

Do I Need an “Operational” CFO for My Company? 30.12.2023

In episode #155, I address an article in CFO Dive about tech companies wanting operational CFO’s. - What is an operational CFO? - How does this help? Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS metrics newsletter: https://saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS monthly newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/df1db6bf8bca/the-saas-cfo-sign-up-landing-page SaaS Metrics courses here: https://www.thesaasac...

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