Rhythms of Grace

Is hell a burning lake of fire or a lifetime of existential angst? Does it exist at all? In this episode, Sung and Nate have an uncomfortable conversation and try to explain why hell is such a polarizing discussion topic.

Discussion of the 'unpardonable' sin from Matthew encompasses sex, blasphemy, and if you can lose salvation. It's a doozy.

In this week's episode, Sung dives into Mark 5:39. Jesus us to turn the other cheek - but what does that mean? Should Christians not protect ourselves from danger or evil? What starts as a somewhat clear answer gets increasingly muddled as the episode progresses.

In today's episode, Sung quotes Jesus saying, "I didn't come to bring peace, but the sword." Was Jesus promoting violence as an a means to an end? Nate gets put on the spot trying to answer that question. Then they both take a spin through the world of parenting reflecting on Jesus's command to hate your father and mother.

In this brand new season, Sung and Nate tackle the confusing, upsetting, or downright alarming verses in the Bible. For this episode, they look at Jesus's command to cut off your hand or pluck out your eye if it causes you to sin. Should we really do that?

This episode is a master class in Enneagram understanding. Sung talks about what unites three triads of the Enneagram. Eights, Nines, and Ones have a root motivation in common as the gut triad, as do Twos, Threes, and Fours as the heart triad, and Fives, Sixes, and Sevens as the thinking triad.

Of the three subtypes Sung from episode 15, one of them is so different from the others that it's called a "counter-type". It makes a 7 look like a 2 and a 4 look like a 3. In this episode, Sung makes Nate guess which of the three subtypes is the oddball. They go through every single number in the enneagram so you can find your subtype and try to do better than Nate, who got 8 out of 9 guesses cor...

How is it that two people who are both the same Enneagram number can look and act so different? Sung explains how the three subtypes impact behavior and account for the differences between people with the same "core" type.

In this episode, Nate and Sung discuss another feature of the Enneagram, numbers that aren't adjacent (wings) but still have something to offer in terms of growth, discipleship, and maturity.

In past episodes, Sung and Nate referred to the "wings" of an enneagram number. In this episode they dive deep into what wings are, and how they can help us become healthier versions of our core number.

Enneagram nines are the peacemakers. They get along and go along with almost everyone. But sometimes their commitment to external peace comes at the expense of their sense of self. This episode's special guest, Alice, describes what prayers are hard for her pray, and how to tell when she's upset. Spoiler alert: if you know a nine is upset, it's often already too late.

Sung is an Enneagram 8, through and through. In this episode, he talks about the inner and outer life of an eight. Nate and a surprise special guest keep him honest and share what it's like to work and live with someone as intense as Sung.

Sevens are the people you want at your dinner party. They love to laugh, joke, and try new things. But taken too far, sevens can run from experience to experience in order to avoid pain or look too deeply inside themselves. Nate's two favorite sevens are the guests for this exciting episode.

Enneagram sixes are loyal and collaborative. They are incredible team players and friends. But, they can struggle with anxiety, especially when feeling unprepared. Like when they are shooting from the hip on a podcast. Thankfully our special guest, Jake, stays with us for the whole podcast while Sung and Nate pepper him with questions. You won't want to miss his story about having to give a speech...

If you need accurate information or deep research, Enneagram fives are who you need. They are focused, introspective, and deeply knowledgeable on a whole host of topics. They are the experts and the researchers. But introspection carried too far becomes anti-social. Expertise becomes pride. Hear our guest, missionary and PhD Aaron Mininger, talk about embracing his inner five, while staying balanc...

In this week's episode, Sung and Nate look at the artists, musicians, and creatives of the world - Enneagram 4s. Fours feel strongly, look for meaning, and strive to create something unique and beautiful in their life and in the world around them. They are also prone to melancholy and despair. Our special guest, Tyler, shares some of his personal valleys and where he finds meaning and purpose in h...

In this episode, our special guest is an Enneagram 3. Threes are driven, adaptable, and usually high achievers. They are valedictorians and successful saleswomen. But they are also prone to vanity and deceit. Sung and Nate talk with Alex about how he moves towards health and wholeness, and what he's learned about faith and relationships as a compulsive achiever.

In this episode, we have our first guest appearance on the ROG podcast. Christine, a staff member at Grace Church and an enneagram 2, tells us what it's like to be a two. She has advice on how to stay healthy as a two, and how to relate to the twos in your life.

Maybe they aren't the loneliest number, but enneagram ones at their worst can be critical, judgmental, and hard to satisfy. That's a pretty lonely place to be. At their best, healthy ones are passionate, hardworking, objective, and wise. In this episode, Nate talks about being a one, and Sung explains what it's like to observe and relate to him.

In this episode, Sung reads a couple emails he's received that are highly critical of the enneagram and its usefulness to people of faith. Sung and Nate talk about those criticisms and the divide many see between what is sacred and what is secular.

Self knowledge is a critical part of maturing, growing in faith, and building healthy relationships. In this episode, Sung and Nate talk about the Enneagram as A tool (not THE tool) for increased self awareness.

In this episode, we launch Season 2, a deep dive into self discovery. Using the enneagram as a framework for understanding ourselves, Sung and Nate talk about how knowing yourself leads to a deeper knowledge of God, and how a deeper understanding of God leads to self knowledge. Find out why Nate was called the invisible child, and where Sung's strong independent streak came from.

Religion Sucks is an episode originally recorded along with "To Hell with Balance" as a pre-season intro. It was put up then pulled back down, but here it is in it's entirety. While episode zero focused on the Rhythm in "Rhythms of Grace" this episode talks about grace.

The "gift of disillusionment" sounds like a paradox. How could being disillusioned be a good thing? Sung talks about marriage conflict. Nate talks about seeing a lion up close. And somehow it all ties back to our image of God.

Sung and Nate describe some surprising half truths that we believe, and discuss the traps those beliefs can create. It's a deeper dive into the conversation between Job and his three friends, as they try to find an explanation for his suffering.