37signals

REWORK

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A podcast by 37signals about the better way to work and run your business. The REWORK podcast features the co-founders of 37signals (the makers of Basecamp and HEY), Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson sharing their unique perspective on business and entrepreneurship along with host Kimberly Rhodes.

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37signals

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Business

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37signals.com

Latest episode

Jul 1, 2026

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Episodes

Readying for Launch 31.01.2024

Product launches can be a delicate dance between anticipation and anxiety. Today on " Rework ", Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson sit down with host Kimberly Rhodes to explore the intricacies of knowing when a product is ready for launch.  Listen in to learn the art of patience with the "Give It Five Minutes" principle and the necessity of building a "bucket of arro...

REWORK Live! 24.01.2024

In this special YouTube live episode, co-founders of 37signals, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, join host Kimberly Rhodes to field live questions from listeners. Listen in as Jason and David answer questions about topics such as the recent launch of the HEY Calendar . They also share updates on the release of Campfire , the first ONCE product, with behind-the-scenes details about this si...

User Testing, Stoic Philosophy, and Other Listener Questions 17.01.2024

In this episode of Rework, the spotlight is on listener questions. Listen in as Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson share their insights on a range of topics — from 37signals' approach to user testing and the impact of Stoic philosophy on their business principles, to discussions on profits and expenses, and the crucial decision of when to hire.  Tune in to hear their unique perspectives...

This again, Apple? 09.01.2024

Getting an app into Apple's app store without giving up 30% of profits is something the team at 37signals battled back in 2020 when it launched the HEY email service. What they didn't expect would be to have some of the same challenges in 2024 with the HEY Calendar app. Listen in as David Heinemeier Hansson shares the history of the 2020 challenge along with the most recent app store rej...

How We Work: Fewer Meetings, More Check-Ins 03.01.2024

Today, we're diving into a question that has piqued the curiosity of many of our listeners and clients: How exactly does 37signals keep track of all the moving pieces in a fully remote company with team members spread throughout the world? The answer lies in our use of Automatic Check-ins , a tool embedded in Basecamp 3.0 that has revolutionized how we stay connected with what everyone is wor...

Working with a Business Partner 27.12.2023

In this week's episode of Rework, host Kimberly Rhodes sits down with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson to share the essential elements that foster a thriving partnership. Witness firsthand the enduring stability of their collaboration as Jason and David explore how explicit power-sharing agreements and trust enable each partner to take the lead in their own domain. Tune in for a vibra...

Look Back Less 20.12.2023

"If you're going to look back at all, you should glance back but not stare." – Jason Fried In this episode of the Rework podcast, host, Kimberly Rhodes sits down with Jason Fried, and David Heinemeier Hansson, to dive into a compelling question: How much attention should businesses really give to the past? Jason introduced this concept in his recent HEY World post called "Look...

Narrow As You Go 13.12.2023

In their book, It Doesn’t Have to Be Crazy at Work , Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson stress the importance of narrowing the scope as a project unfolds, emphasizing, "After the initial dust settles, the work required to finish a project should be dwindling over time, not expanding." But navigating this challenge is not always easy.  In this week's episode of Rework, Kimberly...

Calendar Tetris 06.12.2023

Ever find yourself trapped in a game of "Calendar Tetris," where each meeting block interrupts the natural flow of your day, leaving you little room for meaningful work? Today on Rework, host Kimberly Rhodes sits down with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson to discuss the pitfalls of modern scheduling tools and their impact on productivity from their book, It Doesn’t Have to Be Cra...

The Outwork Myth 29.11.2023

In today's hustle-centric work environment, there's a prevailing pressure to showcase constant busyness, sometimes at the expense of genuine productivity. However, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson present a refreshing perspective in their book "It Doesn't Have To Be Crazy Work," where the emphasis is on the quality of your time rather than the quantity.  Join Jason...

What are you REALLY buying? 22.11.2023

Every time you make a purchase, whether it's a tangible product or a service, you're casting a vote with your dollars for the type of company you want to support and the choices they make.  So, what are you REALLY buying?  Join host Kimberly Rhodes as she sits down with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson to explore the concept of "buying the company" as they dive into the...

Underdo the Competition 15.11.2023

In business, the idea that more is better often leads companies to engage in an endless race to add more features while losing sight of what truly matters to their users. Consider the iconic success of the iPod. By excelling at one thing, done exceptionally well, it attracted legions of unwaveringly loyal fans.  This same philosophy is why the team at 37signals consistently aims for simplicity, re...

Speaking Gigs, Attending Conferences, and the Importance of Gathering 08.11.2023

In a world dominated by virtual interactions, coming together in person offers an opportunity to foster deeper human connections that are impossible to achieve through any other means. Jason Fried recently took the stage in Vancouver and David Heinemeier Hansson did the same at Rails World in Amsterdam. Today, they join Kimberly Rhodes to share their unique perspectives on life beyond the digital...

The F*#k No Feature 01.11.2023

Have you ever wanted to bid farewell to bothersome emails without the hassle of unsubscribing or composing polite "please stop emailing me" requests? Today 37signals' co-founders, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, join host Kimberly Rhodes to walk listeners through HEY's newest addition that allows users to express their email frustrations unconventionally. Introducing...

Build an Audience 25.10.2023

This episode kicks off with the Underdog Challenge winner sharing the unconventional strategies that enable his small business to take on their larger competitors. Then, 37signals' co-founders, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, sit down with host Kimberly Rhodes to delve into the power of building an audience through authentic content. Jason and David share the secret of building a ge...

Inspiration is Perishable 18.10.2023

"Ideas are immortal. They last forever. What doesn't last forever is inspiration. Inspiration is like fresh fruit or milk: it has an expiration date,” - from Rework , by Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson On this episode, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, the Co-founders of 37signals, sit down with host Kimberly Rhodes to share their perspective on the fleeting nature of in...

You Don't Create a Culture 11.10.2023

Company culture is more than just a buzzword or a section in your employee handbook.  It's not something you can just write down and expect to manifest. It creates itself organically, through the attitudes and actions of your team that define how you work and more importantly how you work together.  Today, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, the Co-founders of 37signals, sit down with h...

Hiring Senior Leaders, Getting Started with Six-Week Cycles, and Other Listener Questions 04.10.2023

In this episode of Rework we're turning the spotlight onto you, our listeners, with another episode of listener questions.  Today, Kimberly Rhodes sits down with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, the co-founders of 37signals, to pull back the curtain on the intricacies they faced when hiring a COO for their team, and the intuition-driven decision making they used to ensure their new h...

37signals Introduces ONCE 27.09.2023

In a world where subscriptions have become the norm for everything from streaming services to heated car seats, the team at 37signals recently unveiled a new venture that's poised to reintroduce the notion of software ownership with a pay-once model called ONCE.  Today, Kimberly Rhodes sits down with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, the co-founders of 37signals to introduce ONCE to l...

Shape Up Principle: Decide When to Stop 20.09.2023

In our recent episodes, we've been talking about the principles of Shape Up – the cornerstone of 37signals' product development philosophy. We've explored the art of crafting a pitch and the decision-making process that takes place at the betting table .  Shape Up acknowledges that there's always more work than time allows, and on today’s episode, we’re zeroing in on a critical...

TypeScript Drama and Open Source Opinions 13.09.2023

Recently 37signals co-founders David Heinemeier Hansson and Jason Fried found themselves at the center of an unexpected internet storm. It all began when David made a significant announcement: Turbo 8 would no longer be using TypeScript.  What followed was a whirlwind of controversy and social media fireworks.   In today's discussion, Kimberly Rhodes sits down with Jason and David to unpack t...

Shape Up Principle: The Betting Table 06.09.2023

Picture this: a dimly lit room where velvet-robed figures gather in secret to make decisions of paramount importance as the fate of the pitches for the next product development cycle hangs in the balance.  The "betting table” – where the formalized pitches for each six-week work cycle are selected – might seem mysterious but we're about to unravel its secrets.  Listen in as host Kimberly...

Shape Up Principle: Writing a Pitch 30.08.2023

If you've been following the Rework podcast, you're undoubtedly acquainted with the concept of Shape Up, a cornerstone of 37signals' approach to product development. In this episode, we delve into a core component of Shape Up: the delicate art of crafting a pitch. Join Rework host Kimberly Rhodes as she sits down with 37signals founders, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson for...

Are You an Underdog? We want to hear from you! 23.08.2023

In this episode of Rework, host Kimberly Rhodes sits down with 37signals founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson to hear about the company's fondness for underdogs – small businesses that are scrappy, do more with less, and use creativity over big budgets.  If this sounds like you, we'd love to hear from you and just might have you on an episode of Rework to share your story. P...

Software Has Bugs 09.08.2023

Bugs are an inevitable part of complex software and aiming for complete bug-free perfection is not only unrealistic, but it hinders progress and product delivery. In this episode of Rework, host Kimberly Rhodes sits down with 37signals founders, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson to discuss why you need to be realistic about bugs in software development.  Listen in as David and Jason offer a...

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