BJC
Respecting Religion
What's at stake for faith freedom for all in our world today? Join the conversation on religion and the law, including the most significant cases concerning religion and religious liberty at the U.S. Supreme Court and the continuing impact of Christian nationalism. As lawyers and people of faith, BJC Executive Director Amanda Tyler and General Counsel Holly Hollman think these topics deserve respectful conversation -- something that we don't always hear in the public square or our social media feeds.
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Episodes
S4, Ep. 25: Religion in public schools: New federal guidance and the reality on the ground 08.06.2023 31:19
It happens in pretty much every administration, but what do you know about federal guidelines on religion in public schools? Holly and Amanda discuss the new release from the Biden administration outlining the different rights of students and teachers, and they share how some are misinterpreting the Kennedy v. Bremerton decision to open the door to more government-sponsored religious exercises....
S4, Ep. 24: The myth of American 'chosenness' (part two) 02.06.2023 47:20
What does the myth of American "chosenness" mean for different communities and the rise of Christian nationalism? Episcopal Bishop and Cherokee nation member Carol Gallagher , Baptist minister Rev. Darrell Hamilton , and Dr. Michael Hoberman , a scholar of early American Jewish literature and culture, engage in a conversation moderated by the Rev. Dr. Jaimie Crumley , a minister and professor...
S4, Ep. 23: The myth of American 'chosenness' 01.06.2023 40:23
How does the myth of America being a "chosen" nation lead to the religious nationalism we see today? Harvard Divinity School's Dr. Catherine Brekus talks about how the myth is a complicated mixture of arrogance, exploitation, reform, racism and violence. She looks at the roots of this myth, how it has played out through our country's history, and the ways that the recent surge of white Christian n...
S4, Ep. 22: Inside the ReAwaken America tour 18.05.2023 30:38
Christian nationalism is on full display at stops of the ReAwaken America tour – conferences that fuse Christian language and symbols with conspiracy theories and election denials. Amanda went inside the most recent one at a Trump property in Miami, and she shares her experiences in this podcast – from assembly-line baptisms to the reaction of the crowd as speakers moved seamlessly from religious...
S4, Ep. 21: 613 Commandments: James Talarico on his defense of church-state separation as a Christian 11.05.2023 39:23
The Texas legislature meets once every two years, and they are spending a great deal of this session on bills that would advance religion. We return to our conversation on the Ten Commandments bill in Texas, as we saw a groundswell of opposition to the bill when it headed to the state House. Amanda and Holly take a look at some viral moments, and we share an exclusive conversation with Texas state...
S4, Ep. 20: The Ten Commandments 04.05.2023 39:03
Texas is taking matters into its own hands, going full-on cowboy as it leads the nation in abandoning long-held religious liberty protections. Amanda and Holly review a troubling bill in Texas that would mandate the posting of the Ten Commandments in public school classrooms, and they share how some are trying to use the Kennedy v. Bremerton decision – and removal of the Lemon test – to justif...
S4, Ep. 19: Searching for common ground: SCOTUS hears Groff v. DeJoy 20.04.2023 30:10
The Supreme Court seemed less divided by ideological lines during the Groff v. DeJoy oral arguments, as justices searched for common ground to clarify a standard from a 1977 decision that no advocate seems to be fully supporting. Amanda and Holly share their thoughts from the day, playing key moments from the courtroom in their breakdown of the legal issues and sticking points in the case. What,...
S4, Ep. 18: Understanding Christian nationalism: New polling and media 13.04.2023 42:30
Media reports about Christian nationalism are often tied to topline takeaways from research on the political ideology. Amanda and Holly review various definitions of the term "Christian nationalism," look at its connection to – and distinctiveness from – the Christian faith, and talk about why sociological research on this topic matters. SHOW NOTES: Segment 1: Definitions of Christian nationalism...
S4, Ep. 17: Is 'de minimis' enough? Previewing Groff v. DeJoy 06.04.2023 31:22
A spring Supreme Court case is bringing together some unlikely allies. Amanda and Holly preview Groff v. DeJoy , which examines the federal statutory protection against religious discrimination in the workplace. They review the facts of the case, which involves a postal worker who has a religious belief he cannot work on the Sabbath, and they share why a " de minimis standard" set in a 1977 case...
S4, Ep. 16: Biden, Trump and federal regulations 16.03.2023 42:23
Schoolhouse Rock left out a key way laws are made: The regulatory process. Amanda and Holly discuss the federal regulatory and rulemaking process and review some recent proposals and final rules from the Biden administration, including a proposed rule from nine different agencies and a final rule from the Department of Labor. They also review how these rules have changed through the Bush, Obama an...
S4, Ep. 15: Eric Adams, CPAC and Christian nationalism 09.03.2023 35:17
From New York City Mayor Eric Adams to several individuals at CPAC, we've recently heard new, troubling comments from public leaders that show – once again – the prominence of Christian nationalism and the dangers it poses to public debate. Amanda and Holly provide some "Separation of Church and State 101" in this episode to clear up confusion about the term and what it really means. They also sha...
S4, Ep. 14: Public schools and Christian nationalism 02.03.2023 30:11
From curriculum debates to the posting of "In God We Trust," we're seeing the political ideology of Christian nationalism impacting religious freedom in our public schools. During Public Schools Week, Amanda and Holly review recent controversies and discuss the important role our nation's public schools play in serving all people and educating 90% of American schoolchildren. They also discuss why...
S4, Ep. 13: White supremacy and Christian nationalism: A conversation with the Rev. Dr. Jay Augustine 23.02.2023 37:18
How can we best understand the overlap of white supremacy and Christian nationalism? The Rev. Dr. Jonathan C. "Jay" Augustine joins Amanda and Holly for a wide-ranging conversation during Black History Month as we explore the way Christian nationalism devalues Blackness in our country. A pastor, preacher, lawyer and author, Dr. Augustine shares the differences between racial discrimination and eth...
S4, Ep. 12: Accusations of religious bias on campus and in Congress 09.02.2023 37:58
Accusations of antisemitism and Islamophobia tend to spark and exacerbate divisions in our world. Amanda and Holly discuss two recent controversies that featured accusations of religious bias: The removal of Rep. Ilhan Omar from a congressional committee and a depiction of the Prophet Muhammad shown in an art history class. They look at the under-discussed parts of these controversies, implication...
S4, Ep. 11: The National Prayer Breakfast and religious freedom 26.01.2023 41:30
On February 2, we'll see the 71st installment of an event that always raises eyebrows and makes news. The National Prayer Breakfast has been around since 1953, but what is it? Does it promote religious freedom, or is it yet another example of Christian nationalism? Amanda and Holly explore the legitimate questions it raises about faith in public life and the relationship between the institutions o...
S4, Ep. 10: A report, a prayer vigil, and a somber anniversary: Two years after January 6 12.01.2023 34:59
Last week, our country marked the second anniversary of the January 6 insurrection. On today's podcast, Amanda and Holly share their reactions to the report released by the January 6 Select Committee at the end of 2022, including the lack of any mention of Christian nationalism and why that matters. Amanda and Holly also discuss the importance of Christian leaders providing an alternative witness...
S4, Ep. 09: Addressing Christian nationalism before Congress 15.12.2022 37:18
Why hasn't Congress addressed the dangers of Christian nationalism before now? Amanda and Holly talk about a crucial hearing this week, which included testimony from Amanda on how Christian nationalism overlaps with and provides cover for white supremacy and racial subjugation. They look at the challenges facing Congress in addressing the rise in violence in our country, and they share some bipart...
S4, Ep. 08: Hypotheticals, reeducation, and a preemptive claim: SCOTUS hears 303 Creative v. Elenis 08.12.2022 42:53
Amanda and Holly review this week's Supreme Court arguments in 303 Creative v. Elenis , a free speech challenge to a Colorado law that prohibits discrimination in the commercial marketplace. They look at how this case came to be, how it relates to 2018's Masterpiece Cakeshop case, and the difficulty in deciding weighty matters of free speech and nondiscrimination for a wedding website design bu...
S4, Ep. 07: Does the Respect for Marriage Act protect religious liberty? 01.12.2022 33:30
Can marriage equality and religious liberty co-exist? Amanda and Holly discuss the Respect for Marriage Act, including what led to this bill's creation, the legislative wrangling to get it passed in an election year, and the bevy of amendments full of political posturing. They also discuss the important distinctions between marriage as a civil institution and marriage as a religious institution. L...
S4, Ep. 06: Evaluating Christian nationalism as a political strategy 23.11.2022 32:40
Where did we see religion and religious liberty have an impact during the midterm elections? Amanda and Holly break down election results in this podcast, including a look at how extremism fared at the ballot box. Plus, they review the implications of former president Donald Trump's return as a candidate when it comes to Christian nationalism. SHOW NOTES: Segment 1 (starting at 00:51): A quick ove...
S4, Ep. 05: Christian nationalism and the midterm elections 03.11.2022 38:18
Christian nationalism's influence continues to permeate so many facets of our world, particularly as we approach the midterm elections. Holly and Amanda look at the headline-grabbing ReAwaken America tour events happening across the country, including how Michael Flynn and others are exploiting Christian nationalism in those arenas for political gain. Plus, they review new research about Americans...
S4, Ep. 04: A religious freedom right to an abortion? 27.10.2022 38:59
Debates about access to abortion are often intertwined with religion, and the conversation is changing in light of the Supreme Court's decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization , which overturned Roe v. Wade and the federal constitutional right to an abortion. Amanda and Holly review some of the public and academic commentaries on the intersection of abortion and religion, and t...
S4, Ep.03: Lessons learned in 3 years of the Christians Against Christian Nationalism campaign 20.10.2022 40:44
It's been three years since the launch of the Christians Against Christian Nationalism initiative. In this episode, Amanda and Holly discuss what we've learned since convening that project and how the conversation is changing today. They share about accusations we've heard over the project's lifetime, why we are seeing this topic in the media more often, and the odd ways the public discourse is sh...
S4, Ep. 02: Justice Alito and religion at the Supreme Court: Previewing the new SCOTUS term 13.10.2022 37:14
What are Amanda and Holly watching in the new Supreme Court term? They preview 303 v. Elenis , a case involving a woman who says she doesn't want to design wedding websites for same-sex couples, and compare it to the Masterpiece Cakeshop case, in which the Court avoided the main question. Amanda and Holly also discuss an order from the Court's "shadow docket" involving Yeshiva University's refu...
S4, Ep. 01: Still more to say: Review and updates on last term's religious freedom cases from SCOTUS 06.10.2022 32:22
The Supreme Court opened its new term this week, and Amanda and Holly look at where its last decisions are leading us. They provide updates on high-profile decisions, including the praying coach in Washington state who hasn't returned to work yet and the dilemmas facing religious schools in Maine. Amanda and Holly lament how this Court ignores the distinctiveness of religion, despite religion's sp...
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