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Recovery Room
Recovery Room: For Fame, F*Ups & Fixing itJennis Williamson and JC Snooke explore through candid conversations: success, failure, lessons learned, and the realities behind public-facing careers. It’s honest, reflective, and story-driven. Focusing less on polished success stories and more on the experiences that actually shape people. Guests within the entertainment industry and other public facing careers talk about their journey, the moments that didn’t go to plan, and what they've learned along the way.
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Episodes
Rejected Again? You're Looking at It All Wrong 01.11.2026 21:37
Why aren't you booking acting jobs? What do agents and producers really look for in a self-tape audition? In this episode of Recovery Room, Jennis Williamson and JC Snooke take you behind the scenes of the South African acting industry to unpack auditions, casting decisions, self-tapes and the realities of trying to land your next role. Whether you're an aspiring actor, a working performer or simp...
Makeup Artist to the Rich & Famous on Rude Influencers & Quiet Luxury 25.10.2026 35:58
Francois “Fafa” de Klerk, the celebrity makeup artist and stylist from kykNET's Stralend, joins Recovery Room to talk about losing 79kg, overcoming personal struggles and the reality of working with South Africa's rich and famous. Known for his work transforming appearances on Stralend, Fafa reveals how the experience also became a turning point in his own life. After losing his mother and sister,...
She Started Acting at 52... Now She’s on Binnelanders 18.10.2026 32:33
Matie van Graan, better known to many South Africans as Boerboeltannie, joins Recovery Room to talk about starting her acting career at 52, becoming a familiar face on Binnelanders and discovering an unexpected talent for comedy. From working in nature conservation to becoming a social media personality, stand-up comedian and actress, Matie's journey into entertainment was anything but conventiona...
From Functioning Alcoholic to 8 years Sober 11.10.2026 45:07
Natasja Jacobs opens up about alcoholism, eight years of sobriety, mental health, heartbreak and the reality behind her career on South African television. Known for her roles in 7de Laan, Song vir Katryn, Egoli and Diepe Waters, Natasja has spent decades entertaining audiences. But behind the familiar characters is a deeply personal story of addiction, recovery and finding herself again. In this...
Why Every Actor Needs a Side Hustle to Survive! 04.10.2026 21:30
One job isn't enough anymore. But when does your side hustle start costing you more than it's giving you? In this episode of Recovery Room, Jennis and JC unpack moonlighting, multiple income streams and the reality of trying to juggle work, passion projects, parenting and everything else life expects from you. From actors taking second jobs just to survive between gigs, to Jennis and JC confrontin...
Every Label Said No... Then His Song Blew Up 27.09.2026 40:20
Armand Joubert opens up about The Voice SA, rejection from record labels, breaking into Afrikaans music and the hate that comes with refusing to hide who you are. Before becoming one of Afrikaans pop's most unapologetic performers, Armand was rejected by Idols, reached the Top 32 of The Voice SA and spent years chasing an international music career. Then, after playing a show to around 15 people,...
From Rejection to Award-Winning Binnelanders Star 20.09.2026 33:22
Izette Blignaut joins Jennis and JC to talk about her journey from writing and working behind the scenes to becoming an award-winning Binnelanders actress as Petro. Her career hasn't followed the plan she expected. An audition she didn't book led to her first acting role being written around her. She pitched again and again before writing a Showmax film at just 24. She auditioned for Binnelanders...
Why South Africans Stopped Talking to Their Neighbours 13.09.2026 22:39
Why don’t we know our neighbours anymore? In this solo episode, Jennis and JC unpack community, loneliness, neighbourhood connection and why so many of us have become disconnected from the people living right beside us. From growing up in close-knit small towns to navigating modern life in Johannesburg, they explore how crime, technology, survival mode and constant online noise have changed the wa...
From Musician to Viral Creator - The Hospital Wake-Up Call That Changed Everything 06.09.2026 40:33
Mitchell Godwin is a South African musician and content creator whose journey from Benoni to Hollywood took an unexpected turn when he woke up in hospital and made the decision to stop drinking. In this episode of Recovery Room, Mitchell opens up about feeling like he never fit in, chasing a career in music, performing internationally, navigating mental-health struggles, and building a new life th...
Fame, F@ck-Ups & Going Viral: We’re Telling Our Story 30.08.2026 27:44
This time, it’s just us. No guest. No expert. No one else to hide behind. In this episode of The Recovery Room, Jennis & JC get brutally honest about the stuff that usually stays off-camera: our own secrets, the highs that come with fame, the pressure behind the success, the choices we got wrong, the mistakes we’d rather forget, and, most importantly, the f@ck-ups that taught us the most. Bec...
When A Child Star Decides She's Done With Fame? 23.08.2026 43:40
Annie Malan has been famous for most of her life. But fame is only one chapter of the story. Long before she became a successful entrepreneur and businesswoman, Annie was a child actor, appearing in iconic South African productions including Fiela se Kind, Saartjie, That Englishwoman and ’n Pot Vol Winter. In this episode of Fame, F@ck Ups & Fixing It, Jennis and JC sit down with Annie to unp...
From Imposter Syndrome to Owning Your Story with Blyde Smit 16.08.2026 43:32
What happens when the career, relationship, and identity you thought you had suddenly change? In this episode of The Recovery Room, Jennis and JC sit down with actress, photographer and creative storyteller Blyde Smit for a deeply honest conversation about the realities of building a creative career — and rebuilding yourself when life doesn’t go according to plan. Blyde opens up about starting her...
Black, Afrikaans and Unapologetically Thandi Stoltz 09.08.2026 34:10
Most people know Thandi Stoltz from TikTok. But very few know the story behind the videos. In this episode of Fame, F@ck Ups & Fixing It, Jennis and JC sit down with one of South Africa's fastest-growing content creators to talk about identity, adoption, belonging and growing up in an Afrikaans family as a Black woman. Thandi shares what it was like constantly being questioned because of her s...
Toks ’n Tjops to Emmy nomination - the story between 02.08.2026 36:18
What happens when the career you've built for 13 years suddenly comes to an end? For Janina Oberholzer, losing her place on Toks ’n Tjops initially felt like a disaster. But with hindsight, it became the catalyst for an entirely new chapter. In this episode of Recovery Room, Janina joins Jennis and JC for an honest conversation about growing up wanting to perform, finding her voice in radio, becom...
AI, The Economy & What's Next 25.07.2026 28:56
The world feels uncertain right now. From a struggling global economy to the rapid rise of AI, it seems like every industry is being forced to evolve—and the film, television and advertising world is no exception. In this episode, Jen and JC unpack what they've experienced firsthand during one of the toughest years in the industry. They discuss shrinking production budgets, changing consumer behav...
Binnelanders' Dr Tertius on burnout, absent dads and starting over at 40 19.07.2026 42:34
You've watched Reynardt Hugo play Dr Tertius Jonker on Binnelanders for nearly two decades. You probably don't know what was happening behind the performance. In this episode, Reynardt sits down with Jennis and JC to go back to the beginning - a military kid from Palabora who moved to the city wearing shoes to school for the first time, sat alone at breaks from primary school through to his Binnel...
Fame at 15, married at 21, widowed at 38 05.07.2026 39:01
Danny Painter has been a fixture in South African entertainment since she was a teenager - kids TV on SABC 2, a move to the UK, four years fighting her way back into the industry, and nine years at Jacaranda FM hosting Love Songs. Most people know the voice. Far fewer know what was happening behind it. In September 2023, her husband Phil died suddenly of a heart attack. She was getting ready to go...
The Whippet didn't survive 28.06.2026 38:36
Divan Botha spent seven years as head of marketing at FNB before walking away from his corporate career to open a coffee shop in Linden. That coffee shop became The Whippet - one of Johannesburg's most loved neighbourhood destinations. Then COVID hit, and the business came within five days of liquidation. In this episode, Divan talks to Jennis and JC about the full arc: the decision to quit bankin...
Why Parenting Feels Impossible Today 21.06.2026 26:56
Parenting today feels completely different. Screens. Cell phones. YouTube. Uber Eats. School WhatsApp groups. Kids wanting sushi for lunch. And somehow we’re all expected to know exactly what we’re doing. This week, it’s just Jennis and JC in The Recovery Room, having an honest conversation about modern parenting. As two dads raising boys in Johannesburg, they wear every hat: mom, dad, disciplinar...
From Bullied Kid, Raised by a Single Mom to Hulu Star 14.06.2026 41:41
He booked his first Hulu feature at 21. He's on Netflix, Amazon Prime and eTV. He's 26. And he genuinely doesn't care about any of it. Not in a dismissive way. In the way that makes you realise you've been thinking about success completely wrong. Dean Goldblum - actor, philosopher, and Jennis and JC's long-time friend - sits down for one for an unexpected conversation on The Recovery Room. They ca...
"I Don't See Colour" - SA's Most Uncomfortable Lie 07.06.2026 39:40
This week, Jennis and JC are joined by Sena and Stacey from the Colour-Full Podcast for one of the most honest conversations we’ve had yet. From race and identity to adoption, white guilt, Black Lives Matter, cultural heritage and the fear of saying the wrong thing, this episode explores why curiosity might be more important than certainty. Together they unpack: • Why difficult conversations ma...
The Accountant Who Hated Accounting - Now Runs 26 Chain Stores 31.05.2026 50:09
He was a qualified accountant who was, by his own admission, terrible at accounting. Today he manages 8 franchise locations across Steers, Debonairs, Milky Lane and Fishaways. This is how Shaun Pillay actually got there - and nobody gave him a blueprint. On his first day at one of his most formative jobs, his new boss asked him: "What are you going to do here?" Shaun said operations manager. Boss...
Angelique Gerber on Women Who Break Women, Single Motherhood & the Book She's Been Too Scared to Write 24.05.2026 35:02
She can't win. Post about her kids? Sarcastic comments. Share a vulnerable moment? "She wants attention." Show her success? "She's boasting." Post nothing? She disappears. Angelique Gerber joins JC and Jennis an honest conversation about woman who break down other woman, single motherhood and her new book! From growing up in Springs to working as a PA at Barclays Capital in London and then walking...
We made a book of all our rejected pitches! Here's what it taught us. 16.05.2026 24:20
No guests. No filters. Just Jennis Williamson and JC Snooke sitting down to talk. And it’s one of the most unhinged episodes of The Recovery Room yet. After four back-to-back guests: JP Geldenhuys, Chanley Wong, Wim Steyn and Danielle Retief. In this episode, they unpack what actually stuck: the things each guest said that kept running through their heads after the recording stopped. And in the pr...
Jackie from Binnelanders. Nikki from 7de Laan. Shakira from Poena. Danielle Retief tells her story. 10.05.2026 38:21
Jackie from Binnelanders. Nikki from 7de Laan. Danielle Retief has played them all and she almost didn't audition for her very first role. Three generations of SA showbiz royalty, two cancellations, five languages, and one of the most honest conversations about surviving the Afrikaans entertainment industry we've ever had.
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