Anne Maxwell & Kevin Gaynor
RadioMMT
Economics for the rest of us, with Anne & Kev. Compelling conversations and lively commentary on the big economic questions of the day. Macroeconomics through the lens of Modern Monetary Theory (MMT).
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Jul 11, 2026
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#029 Andy: Inflation. Spend Less? Spend More? Stop? 26.04.2024
Central banks are sent to battle inflation, equipped only with "nuclear-interest-rate-bombs". How might the federal government take a more nuanced approach? Should it stop spending, spend less, spend more? Maybe it should take note of the three-Cs of managing inflation -- causality, capacity, & creativity -- as heard only on RadioMMT, in this conversation with Andy the data analyst. Shownotes"MMT...
#028 Andy: Battling the Inflation Bogeyman 12.04.2024
We are experiencing levels of inflation unlike any we have seen for decades. What exactly is going on here? And what is this battle over the narrative around inflation? With the help of Andy, a data analyst with a few magical measurements up his sleeve, we will spend the next two episodes wrangling the inflation bogeyman. There is a lot at stake. Keeping everyone scared of the bogeyman is useful i...
#027 Finding The Money: The Curly Questions 22.03.2024
Anne & Kev reflect on a film tour which blasted through Australia in the first half of March 2024. The film is called Finding the Money, and centres on the MMT story of money, and an honest approach to national so-called “debts”.On tour were the film’s director Maren Poitras, and the MMT economist featured in the film, Professor Stephanie Kelton, and Australian economist Dr. Steven Hail. For those...
#026 Maren Poitras: Hidden Knowledge That Will Drive You Insane 23.02.2024
Maren Poitras picks up her 'prosumer' camera, and walks into a battlefield. There she finds an underdog group of economists holding out against a storm of criticism. Why the attack? They asked the taboo question. The question which will either ostracise you, or drive you crazy! This is the question that Maren pursues in her film, Finding the Money. Her film follows this plucky group of economists,...
#025 Maren Poitras: How I Learned To Love The Government Debt 09.02.2024
While Kev is away, Anne is joined by fellow MMT-traveller, Jackson. We discuss a conversation Anne & Kev had with Maren Poitras, director of a film called "Finding the Money", the perfect antidote to "debt hysteria". Finding the Money, follows the trials and tribulations of MMT economists, notably Stephanie Kelton. Maren and Stephanie will be touring Australia with the film during February and Mar...
#024 Anne & Kev: Biff! Bam! Kapow! 26.01.2024
It is our most sensational Letter from Bill Mitchell, yet! The gloves are off, and the hand-to-hand combat is more exciting than your average manga comic -- not least because our well-being is riding on it. Shownotes How Japan escaped neoliberalism and lived happily ever afterby Alan Kohlerpublished in The New Daily, 3rd December, 2023 Should Jim Chalmers adopt MMT to offer Swedish services with S...
#023 Christian & Patricia: Once You See It, You Can't Un-see It 12.01.2024
"You can't un-see it" describes how it feels to be released from a misguided understanding about how money works. Once you understand how it is that the federal government of Australia can never run out of Australian dollars -- you can't un-see it. So many more revelations follow on from this. MMT is a paradigm shift that Christian and Patricia want to share with the world, via their podcast, The...
#022 Anne & Kev: Target Spending Not Bombs 22.12.2023
Anne and Kev discuss the good, the bad, and the ugly of 2023, including the slaughter in Palestine. The latest Letter From The Cape, by economist, Bill Mitchell, reveals a simple idea that could deliver hope and peace for the New Year. And we invite you to the movies! Show NotesThe Smith Family and their Adventures with Money (manga) Money for Beginners: An Illustrated Guide (book)By: L. Randall W...
#021 The Neoliberal Myth You Probably Believe 08.12.2023
The grandaddy of all economic lies is known as the "barter myth". It sounds so innocuous. Yet it continues to do great damage. At the core of mainstream academic economics, are economic models, known as "general equilibrium" models. At the very core of "general equilibrium" models lies the "barter myth". This misleading myth prevents us from understanding the system we all participate in every day...
#020 Anne & Kev: Impoverish Thousands In One Simple Step 24.11.2023
The RBA's operating manual comes with instructions for one lever. Raise or lower interest rates. Australia's central bank, the Reserve Bank of Australia (RBA) can raise and lower the interest rate it announces to the commercial banks, and the commercial banks pass that onto its borrowers. Most borrowers are people with mortgages. MMT economist, Professor Bill Mitchell, explains how raising interes...
#019 Jacob Andrewartha: Encounters With Eco-Socialists 10.11.2023
If eco-socialism is the bank heist, then MMT is the blueprints of the bank, showing vaults, ventilation shafts, exits, etc. Then why do some eco-socialists appear so disinterested in MMT?Maybe the blueprints don't matter when what you really want to do is blow up the bank. What does MMT have to offer radicals? Can MMT offer itself as a tool for system change, or can it only tinker around the edges...
#018 James & Kev: More Wellbeing 27.10.2023
James steps in again as Anne continues her well-being break. This episode we explain the intersection between well being and the economy, and what measurements should be used. World famous economist Simon Kuznets, who was the architect of GDP, said, whatever you do, don't use GDP as a measurement of well being. So what did the world do?! Huh? Exactly what you'd expect. James & Kev will introduce f...
#017 James & Kev: Wellbeing 13.10.2023
Anne is taking a break to look after her well being. What is well being? What's it got to do with the economy? James joins Kevin in Anne's place to discuss, because it just so happens he's studying this topic right now. We also give Joni Mitchell a listen. If you have any feedback on the show please email us on: radiommt@gmail.comTheme MusicPleading Ignorance, by Ed Kuepper, from the album Starstr...
#016 Anne & Kev: Economic Entitlement & Economic Pain 22.09.2023
Anne and Kev open not one, but two, Letters From The Cape, from economist Bill Mitchell. Bill reveals the double standards of those who run our economy, and how economic assumptions seep into cultural biases. Meanwhile, Tim Gurner lets slip the real reason governments are raising interest rates. Theme MusicPleading Ignorance, by Ed Kuepper, from the album Starstruck. Additional AudioToo Many Thing...
#015 Alan Kohler: Living In The Real World 08.09.2023
While the federal government's "2023 Intergenerational Report" might contain some useful data, economist Bill Mitchell helps us to understand what all the hand-waving is about. We then return to the second half of our conversation with Alan Kohler, and range over topics from government surpluses to climate change. This was our chance to discover how much we might have in common with a mainstream c...
#014 Alan Kohler: Who Should Control the Public Purse? 25.08.2023
Anne & Kev speak with Alan Kohler who is one of the few financial commentators to give due consideration to Modern Monetary Theory (MMT). We reminisce about the 1970s, a time of Kombi vans and major shifts in macroeconomic policy. We consider the causes of the current inflation, and whether to trust politicians with the public purse. This is the first of two parts of our conversation with financia...
#013 Lachlan Kerwood-McCall: Defending Our Right To Work 11.08.2023
Whenever an MMT-friendly economist speaks about the Job Guarantee (JG), it always sounds like a win-win-win. A win for the disadvantaged, a win for low-income workers, a win for our standard of living, a win for the environment. So why isn't a job guarantee at the forefront of workers' struggles? We ponder this with former chief economist of the Australian Council of Trade Unions (ACTU), Lachlan K...
#012 Lachlan Kerwood-McCall: Peer Pressure in Economics 28.07.2023
What must the peer pressure be like, within a profession that keeps everyone in line with set of ideas, models, policies and practices known to be based on false assumptions, and to have detrimental effects on millions of lives? Economist Lachlan Kerwood-McCall has a great take on this. Using the example of the recent review of the Reserve Bank of Australia (RBA, Australia's central bank), Lachlan...
#011 Anne & Kev: We Are All Targets of Robodebt 14.07.2023
Think you had to get a debt notice to be a victim of Robodebt? Think again. The troubling implications of Robodebt are manifold. Robodebt might be the least of our calamities, if the political obsession with budget surpluses continues. Robodebt probably wont be the last systemic injustice, if we don't reflect on its political dimensions. Oppression of unemployed and employed workers will continue...
#010 Anne & Kev: Fifth Friday Show 30.06.2023
In his eighth "Letter From the Cape", economist Bill Mitchell, co-founder of Modern Monetary Theory (MMT) answers one of the great economic mysteries, if the Australian federal government can never run out of Australian dollars, why does it tax us? The rest of the show is a dog's breakfast. But then, it is the fifth Friday. Show NotesExcerpts from a panel session: Do we need ‘big’ government?held...
#009 Randall Wray: The Dirty War Waged By Central Bankers 23.06.2023
Professor L. Randall Wray, co-founder of Modern Monetary Theory (MMT) walks us through the topsy-turvy world as revealed by MMT. An American Congress that doesn't want the people to know who they really represent. The pandemic spending that saved us from a surplus. Central bankers who ruthlessly destroy parts of their own financial system. Along the way we also learn of some surprising ingredients...
#008 Anne & Kev: Radiothon 2023 09.06.2023
Raw. Unedited. Live. Anne and Kev cut loose for 3CR's 2023 Radiothon. Alas, Anne and Kev made it to only half their $ target by the end of their Radiothon hour. But you still have time to make a difference! If you are listening to this podcast during the month of June 2023, please consider donating some of that dollar-denominated, sovereign fiat currency at https://www.3cr.org.au/donate. Meanwhile...
#007 The Economic Ideas That Destroy Lives 26.05.2023
The ideas that come out of the mouths of past and present federal treasurers. The ideas that saturate the media, and hinder our ability to demand positive change. Anne & Kev deconstruct some typical mainstream conversations, so you too can recognise dangerous misinformation when you hear it. The ideas that perpetuate a dysfunctional economy. An economy that deliberately keeps hundreds of thousands...
#006 Andy & Lily: Reclaiming the Federal Government Budget Starts Here 12.05.2023
Federal budgets could offer us much more than you might think. Yet 99% of the talk surrounding the Australian Labor government's 2023 federal budget misses these opportunities. For a budget commentary that is both realistic and inspiring, Anne and Kev are joined by Andy and Lily, two bright, young advocates of progressive, heterodox economics. They provide the fresh perspective we desperately need...
#005 Anne & Kev: Death, Taxes, and Profits 28.04.2023
If the taxes we pay to the federal government don't fund federal government spending, then why do we need to pay taxes? If the government's "debt" is actually the government's fiscal injection into the economy, then what would happen if we "paid back the debt"? And where do private sector profits come from? Kev puts it all together in his "economic theory of everything". Only to discover someone e...
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