Sean Yocum and Michael Carrero from Hickory Learning Group

Rad N Bad Podcast

Science EN ↓ 55 episodes

The Rad N' Bad Podcast by Sean Yocum and Michael Carrero isn’t your average ABA podcast, it’s a full-blown wake-up call. These two BCBAs from Hickory Learning Group are smashing through outdated norms and calling out the BS in the field. No fluff, no sugar-coating, just raw, unfiltered truth about what ABA should be. They challenge you to think, question the “why,” and push past complacency. If you're ready to disrupt the status quo and make this field better for clients and practitioners alike, buckle up, Rad N' Bad is here to raise hell and raise standards.

Author

Sean Yocum and Michael Carrero from Hickory Learning Group

Category

Science

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Latest episode

Jul 6, 2026

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Episodes

Episode 20: Private Equity Part 2-Private Pockets & Patient Plunder: The Private Equity Takeover of ABA 21.11.2025

In this fiery, no-holds-barred episode, Sean Yocum returns to the mic to rip the mask off one of the most dangerous forces creeping through the field of Applied Behavior Analysis — private equity. What started as a clinical revolution has become a corporate gold rush, and Sean calls it exactly what it is: behavioral gentrification. From Wall Street boardrooms to therapy rooms, Sean exposes how ven...

Episode 19: The Digital Tightrope — Ethics, Ego, and the ABA Professional Online 12.11.2025

In this unapologetic solo episode, Sean Yocum walks the digital tightrope — that dangerous, dopamine-fueled space where ABA professionals try (and often fail) to balance ethical integrity with online visibility. With zero filters and full accountability, Sean dismantles the myth of the “private” professional account and calls out the ethical trainwrecks playing out across social media feeds. From...

Episode 18: The 40-Hour Lie: Fixing RBT Training (w/ Tara Zeller) 03.11.2025

When “check-the-box” courses crank out certificates, patients and frontline staff pay the price. In this Rad N Bad episode, Sean and Mike square up with guest Tara Zeller, BCBA —Chief Empowerment Officer at Apple Tree Connection and creator of the Empowered RBT program—to tear down the 40-hour myth and rebuild it around fluency, mentorship, and real accountability. We hit the quality gap between c...

Episode 18: The 40-Hour Lie: Fixing RBT Training (w/ Tara Zeller) 03.11.2025

When “check-the-box” courses crank out certificates, patients and frontline staff pay the price. In this Rad N Bad episode, Sean and Mike square up with guest Tara Zeller, BCBA—Chief Empowerment Officer at Apple Tree Connection and creator of the Empowered RBT program—to tear down the 40-hour myth and rebuild it around fluency, mentorship, and real accountability. We hit the quality gap between co...

Episode 17: The Data Wrecking Ball: De-Risking ABA with a Clinivise 24.10.2025

Episode 17: The Data Wrecking Ball: De-Risking ABA with a Clinivise Rad N Bad moves from calling out the broken system to showing you how to rebuild it. Host Sean Yocum welcomes special co-host Christopher Jones, PhD (CTO & Co-Founder of Clinivise ) to dissect the intersection of data science, entrepreneurial excellence, and clinical impact. Dr. Jones, a Caltech-educated veteran and Tillman Sc...

Episode 17: The Data Wrecking Ball: De-Risking ABA with a Clinivise 24.10.2025

Rad N Bad moves from calling out the broken system to showing you how to rebuild it. Host Sean Yocum welcomes special co-host Christopher Jones, PhD (CTO & Co-Founder of Clinivise ) to dissect the intersection of data science, entrepreneurial excellence, and clinical impact. Dr. Jones, a Caltech-educated veteran and Tillman Scholar, brings his mission-driven expertise to the chaotic world of b...

Episode 16: The Legal Chains of ABA: Non-Competes, Non-Solicits, & The Hostage Crisis of Client Care 15.10.2025

Rad N Bad drops a tactical nuke on the ABA industry's most toxic and manipulative legal tools: non-compete and non-solicitation clauses. Hosts Sean Yocum and Michael Carrero call out the corporate rulebook, arguing that these contracts are not about protecting proprietary secrets—they're instruments of aversive control used to weaponize the labor market, restrict client choice , and hold p...

Episode 16: The Legal Chains of ABA: Non-Competes, Non-Solicits, & The Hostage Crisis of Client Care 15.10.2025

Rad N Bad drops a tactical nuke on the ABA industry's most toxic and manipulative legal tools: non-compete and non-solicitation clauses. Hosts Sean Yocum and Michael Carrero call out the corporate rulebook, arguing that these contracts are not about protecting proprietary secrets—they're instruments of aversive control used to weaponize the labor market, restrict client choice , and hold p...

Episode 15: Out of the Clinic and into the Chaos: Community-Based ABA 06.10.2025

Are we setting our clients up for failure? In this episode of Rad N Bad, Sean and Mike welcome the fearless Shanti Bradley, a BCBA who is challenging the biggest lie in ABA: that real therapy only happens in a sterile clinic environment. They dive into why the "tabletop simulator" approach is ineffective and unethical, teaching compliance over competence and ignoring the beautiful, messy...

Episode 14: Correlation, Not Causation: Debunking the Tylenol Autism Claim 26.09.2025

Ready to stop getting your science from bedtime stories? In this wake-up call of an episode, Sean Yocum and Mike Carrero dive headfirst into the recent, controversial claims linking Tylenol to autism. As BCBAs, they break down the fundamental flaws in this argument, starting with the first rule of behavior analysis fight club: correlation is not causation. They discuss how this narrative oversimpl...

Episode 14: Correlation, Not Causation: Debunking the Tylenol Autism Claim 26.09.2025

Ready to stop getting your science from bedtime stories? In this wake-up call of an episode, Sean Yocum and Mike Carrero dive headfirst into the recent, controversial claims linking Tylenol to autism. As BCBAs, they break down the fundamental flaws in this argument, starting with the first rule of behavior analysis fight club: correlation is not causation. They discuss how this narrative oversimpl...

Episode 13: The Elephant in the Room: RBT Burnout with Nick Klinkefus 22.09.2025

In this bold and edgy episode, your hosts Sean Yocum and Mike Carrero get into the most talked about but least solved problem in the field: RBT burnout. Joined by special guest Nick Klinkefus, a tech-savvy leader specializing in Organizational Behavior Management (OBM), they expose the hard truths behind the industry's staffing crisis. Are RBTs just billable machines? Is the high turnover rate...

Episode 13: The Elephant in the Room: RBT Burnout with Nick Klinkefus 22.09.2025

In this bold and edgy episode, your hosts Sean Yocum and Mike Carrero get into the most talked about but least solved problem in the field: RBT burnout. Joined by special guest Nick Klinkefus, a tech-savvy leader specializing in Organizational Behavior Management (OBM), they expose the hard truths behind the industry's staffing crisis. Are RBTs just billable machines? Is the high turnover rate...

Episode 12: The Behavioral Science of Going Effing Viral 12.09.2025

Welcome back, behavioral misfits! On this special episode, hosts Sean Yocum and Michael Carrero dive into a topic that bridges Sean's two worlds: music and behavior analysis. We’re breaking down the incredible, and unexpected, viral resurgence of Sean's old band, Lady Radiator, and their song, "Box Turtle." What looks like a happy accident is, in fact, a perfect storm of behavior...

Episode 11: Who The Hell Is That?-Lindsey Sneed: The Truth About Parent-Mediated Intervention 03.09.2025

On a brand-new installment of our "Who The Hell Is That?" series, Sean and Mike welcome a guest who's not afraid to challenge the status quo: the brilliant Dr. Lindsey Sneed. As the Vice President of Clinical Excellence at Catalight and a licensed psychologist, Dr. Sneed is fiercely passionate about an approach with robust evidence that is often resisted by the mainstream: Parent-Med...

Special Episode: From Bassist in Lady Radiator to BCBA: A Blast From The Past 29.08.2025

On this special episode of the Rad N Bad Podcast, host Sean Yocum takes a break from his usual bold and edgy takes on behavior analysis to dive into a wild personal story. Forgetting the textbooks and dry data, Sean reunites with his old bandmate, Adam Kobylarz, guitarist from the alternative band Lady Radiator. Join them as they reminisce about their days as loud, angry, and avant-garde musicians...

Episode 10: Who the Hell is That?!-Kristyn Peterson: Slicing Through the "We're a Family" BS 25.08.2025

This episode of 'Who the Hell Is That?!' features the incredible Dr. Kristyn Peterson, who cuts through the noise of corporate culture in applied behavior analysis (ABA). She joins hosts Sean Yocum and Mike Carrero to expose the uncomfortable truths behind buzzwords like 'psychological safety' and 'client-centered care.' Dr. Peterson, an expert in organizational behavior ma...

Episode 10: Who the Hell is That?!-Kristyn Peterson: Slicing Through the "We're a Family" BS 25.08.2025

This episode of 'Who the Hell Is That?!' features the incredible Dr. Kristyn Peterson, who cuts through the noise of corporate culture in applied behavior analysis (ABA). She joins hosts Sean Yocum and Mike Carrero to expose the uncomfortable truths behind buzzwords like 'psychological safety' and 'client-centered care.' Dr. Peterson, an expert in organizational behavior ma...

Episode 9: Who The Hell Is That?! - Kristen Byra: Decoding the 51% for Clinical Excellence 15.08.2025

Get ready, Rad N' Bad fam! Sean and Mike are tearing into another unapologetically honest episode of "Who The Hell Is That?!"—our series dedicated to the fearless individuals igniting real change in ABA. This week, we welcome the brilliant and uncompromising Dr. Kristen Byra, PhD, BCBA-D , a true force in clinical excellence who's not afraid to push back against the norm. Kristen, a highly credent...

Episode 9: Who The Hell Is That?! - Kristen Byra: Decoding the 51% for Clinical Excellence 15.08.2025

Get ready, Rad N' Bad fam! Sean and Mike are tearing into another unapologetically honest episode of "Who The Hell Is That?!"—our series dedicated to the fearless individuals igniting real change in ABA. This week, we welcome the brilliant and uncompromising Dr. Kristen Byra, PhD, BCBA-D , a true force in clinical excellence who's not afraid to push back against the norm. Kristen...

Episode 8: Who The Hell Is That?! - Matt Cicoria: From Observations to School Smarts (Have You Tried ACT?) 06.08.2025

Ever wondered how Matt built his podcasting empire? We go behind the scenes to uncover the gritty origin story of Behavioral Observations, revealing the passion and drive that fueled its creation. If you've got an entrepreneurial spirit or a burning desire to make an impact, this segment is a goldmine. But it's not all business! Matt shares invaluable, real-world suggestions for navigating the com...

Episode 8: Who The Hell Is That?! - Matt Cicoria: From Observations to School Smarts (Have You Tried ACT?) 06.08.2025

Ever wondered how Matt built his podcasting empire? We go behind the scenes to uncover the gritty origin story of Behavioral Observations, revealing the passion and drive that fueled its creation. If you've got an entrepreneurial spirit or a burning desire to make an impact, this segment is a goldmine. But it's not all business! Matt shares invaluable, real-world suggestions for navigating...

Episode 7: 2000 Hours, Zero Clinical Judgment: Welcome to ABA Supervision 28.07.2025

Let’s stop pretending supervision is working just because someone hit 2,000 hours. In this episode of Rad N Bad , Sean Yocum and Michael Carrero rip into the broken culture of ABA supervision—and what we actually need to start producing real-deal BCBAs, not just test-passers with clipboards. We’re talking: Why more hours don’t equal more skill (and what to do instead), How agencies are using “supe...

Episode 7: 2000 Hours, Zero Clinical Judgment: Welcome to ABA Supervision 28.07.2025

Let’s stop pretending supervision is working just because someone hit 2,000 hours. In this episode of Rad N Bad , Sean Yocum and Michael Carrero rip into the broken culture of ABA supervision—and what we actually need to start producing real-deal BCBAs, not just test-passers with clipboards. We’re talking: Why more hours don’t equal more skill (and what to do instead), How agencies are using “supe...

Episode 6: Therapy for Sale-The Private Equity Invasion of ABA 18.07.2025

In this no-holds-barred episode, Sean Yocum and Michael Carrero crack open Cody Morris’ groundbreaking article “Private Equity in Behavior Analysis: A Reckoning.” We’re talking real talk about the corporate takeover of ABA—how private equity is reshaping the field, gutting clinical integrity, and treating therapy like a cash grab. Are we selling out science for scalability? What happens when inves...

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