Sean Yocum and Michael Carrero from Hickory Learning Group
Rad N Bad Podcast
The Rad N' Bad Podcast by Sean Yocum and Michael Carrero isn’t your average ABA podcast, it’s a full-blown wake-up call. These two BCBAs from Hickory Learning Group are smashing through outdated norms and calling out the BS in the field. No fluff, no sugar-coating, just raw, unfiltered truth about what ABA should be. They challenge you to think, question the “why,” and push past complacency. If you're ready to disrupt the status quo and make this field better for clients and practitioners alike, buckle up, Rad N' Bad is here to raise hell and raise standards.
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Sean Yocum and Michael Carrero from Hickory Learning Group
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Oct 16, 2026
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Episodes
Episode 28: "Self-Care Cosplay" & the Tote Bag Hunger Games: Why Conferences Fail to Change Practice 23.02.2026 54:31
Live from NCABA 2026 in Winston-Salem, NC, Sean Yocum and Mike Carrero take the stage for the first-ever live recording of the Rad n Bad podcast. In an industry that prides itself on data and behavior change, the guys ask the uncomfortable question: Why do we spend millions of dollars on conferences and return to the clinic on Monday without changing a single thing? Sean and Mike strip away the &q...
Episode 27: Who the Hell is That? Cutting Through the Clinical Sludge with Rebecca Urbano Powell 06.02.2026 1:06:21
In this episode of the Rad n’ Bad Podcast, Sean and Mike scrape off the "clinical veneer" to expose the "metallic stench" of a field currently governed by the path of least resistance. They are joined by a true industry heavy hitter, Rebecca Urbano Powell, CEO of Seven Dimensions Behavioral Health and a veteran with 25 years in the trenches. The trio dives headfirst into the me...
Episode 26: No-Man’s Land — The Stereotypy Standoff 28.01.2026 31:59
The box of conversation is officially open. In this second installment of No-Man’s Land , Sean Yocum and Mike Carrero take on one of the most taboo subjects in ABA: Addressing and Treating Stereotypy . As always, the rules are rigid—no "it depends" and no using "nuance" as a shield. The coin flip decides their fate, and this week, Mike is forced to argue for the treatment of st...
Episode 25: No-Man’s Land — The Battle of the Skittles 19.01.2026 30:30
Welcome to the front lines of Season 2. Comfort has killed curiosity in this field, and Sean Yocum and Mike Carrero are officially done applauding mediocrity. In this high-stakes season premiere, the guys introduce their newest segment: No-Man’s Land . The rules are simple but brutal—the flip of a coin decides which side of a toxic topic you have to defend, and "it depends" is a forfeit....
Rad N Bad: Season 2 Trailer-The Escalation 12.01.2026 8:51
Season 2 Trailer of what is to come on the Rad N Bad podcast....get ready for the escalation! www.radnbadpodcast.com
Episode 24: The Spark, the Systems, and the Fire for Season 2 29.12.2025 8:31
In this Season 1 finale, host Sean Yocum strips away the "conference scripts" and polished professionalism to reflect on why Rad and Bad was created. This episode is a raw manifesto for the podcast’s mission: providing a voice for the "whispers in the hallways" of Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA). Yocum acknowledges the community—from RBTs and clinicians to students and families...
Episode 23: Do As I Say, Not As I Do: The BACB’s Punishment Problem 19.12.2025 18:02
In this episode of Rad N' Bad, Sean Yocum critically analyzes the Behavior Analyst Certification Board's (BACB) disciplinary process, highlighting its hypocrisy and emotional toll on behavior analysts. He cites "Ethical and Regulatory Investigations in ABA: A Qualitative Analysis of Practitioner Responses and Outcomes (Voulgarakis, 2025)He discusses the profound impact on early career...
Episode 22: The Evolution of ABA: Traditional vs. New, Social Validity, and the Cultural Debate 10.12.2025 42:22
In this impromptu episode recorded live from the Underground Conference, hosts Sean Yocum and Michael Carrero tackle the controversial and nuanced debate surrounding "Traditional" versus "New" Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA). They explore whether the shift in terminology represents a genuine change in practice or just a rebranding effort. The conversation delves deep into the h...
Episode 21: Medicaid Hunger Games: Rate Cuts, Caseload Collapse & the Fight for ABA Survival 01.12.2025 21:32
In this episode of the Rad and Bad Podcast, Sean Yocum discusses the critical issues facing clinicians in ABA therapy, particularly the impact of Medicaid funding cuts. He emphasizes the need for clinicians to speak out against systemic failures and to advocate for better practices and policies. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the Medicaid system, the consequences of si...
Episode 21: Medicaid Hunger Games: Rate Cuts, Caseload Collapse & the Fight for ABA Survival 01.12.2025 21:32
In this episode of the Rad and Bad Podcast, Sean Yocum discusses the critical issues facing clinicians in ABA therapy, particularly the impact of Medicaid funding cuts. He emphasizes the need for clinicians to speak out against systemic failures and to advocate for better practices and policies. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the Medicaid system, the consequences of si...
Episode 20: Private Equity Part 2-Private Pockets & Patient Plunder: The Private Equity Takeover of ABA 21.11.2025 20:07
In this fiery, no-holds-barred episode, Sean Yocum returns to the mic to rip the mask off one of the most dangerous forces creeping through the field of Applied Behavior Analysis — private equity. What started as a clinical revolution has become a corporate gold rush, and Sean calls it exactly what it is: behavioral gentrification. From Wall Street boardrooms to therapy rooms, Sean exposes how ven...
Episode 20: Private Equity Part 2-Private Pockets & Patient Plunder: The Private Equity Takeover of ABA 21.11.2025 20:07
In this fiery, no-holds-barred episode, Sean Yocum returns to the mic to rip the mask off one of the most dangerous forces creeping through the field of Applied Behavior Analysis — private equity. What started as a clinical revolution has become a corporate gold rush, and Sean calls it exactly what it is: behavioral gentrification. From Wall Street boardrooms to therapy rooms, Sean exposes how ven...
Episode 19: The Digital Tightrope — Ethics, Ego, and the ABA Professional Online 12.11.2025 32:16
In this unapologetic solo episode, Sean Yocum walks the digital tightrope — that dangerous, dopamine-fueled space where ABA professionals try (and often fail) to balance ethical integrity with online visibility. With zero filters and full accountability, Sean dismantles the myth of the “private” professional account and calls out the ethical trainwrecks playing out across social media feeds. From...
Episode 18: The 40-Hour Lie: Fixing RBT Training (w/ Tara Zeller) 03.11.2025 1:20:08
When “check-the-box” courses crank out certificates, patients and frontline staff pay the price. In this Rad N Bad episode, Sean and Mike square up with guest Tara Zeller, BCBA —Chief Empowerment Officer at Apple Tree Connection and creator of the Empowered RBT program—to tear down the 40-hour myth and rebuild it around fluency, mentorship, and real accountability. We hit the quality gap between c...
Episode 18: The 40-Hour Lie: Fixing RBT Training (w/ Tara Zeller) 03.11.2025 1:20:14
When “check-the-box” courses crank out certificates, patients and frontline staff pay the price. In this Rad N Bad episode, Sean and Mike square up with guest Tara Zeller, BCBA—Chief Empowerment Officer at Apple Tree Connection and creator of the Empowered RBT program—to tear down the 40-hour myth and rebuild it around fluency, mentorship, and real accountability. We hit the quality gap between co...
Episode 17: The Data Wrecking Ball: De-Risking ABA with a Clinivise 24.10.2025 43:10
Episode 17: The Data Wrecking Ball: De-Risking ABA with a Clinivise Rad N Bad moves from calling out the broken system to showing you how to rebuild it. Host Sean Yocum welcomes special co-host Christopher Jones, PhD (CTO & Co-Founder of Clinivise ) to dissect the intersection of data science, entrepreneurial excellence, and clinical impact. Dr. Jones, a Caltech-educated veteran and Tillman Sc...
Episode 17: The Data Wrecking Ball: De-Risking ABA with a Clinivise 24.10.2025 43:10
Rad N Bad moves from calling out the broken system to showing you how to rebuild it. Host Sean Yocum welcomes special co-host Christopher Jones, PhD (CTO & Co-Founder of Clinivise ) to dissect the intersection of data science, entrepreneurial excellence, and clinical impact. Dr. Jones, a Caltech-educated veteran and Tillman Scholar, brings his mission-driven expertise to the chaotic world of b...
Episode 16: The Legal Chains of ABA: Non-Competes, Non-Solicits, & The Hostage Crisis of Client Care 15.10.2025 54:22
Rad N Bad drops a tactical nuke on the ABA industry's most toxic and manipulative legal tools: non-compete and non-solicitation clauses. Hosts Sean Yocum and Michael Carrero call out the corporate rulebook, arguing that these contracts are not about protecting proprietary secrets—they're instruments of aversive control used to weaponize the labor market, restrict client choice , and hold p...
Episode 16: The Legal Chains of ABA: Non-Competes, Non-Solicits, & The Hostage Crisis of Client Care 15.10.2025 54:22
Rad N Bad drops a tactical nuke on the ABA industry's most toxic and manipulative legal tools: non-compete and non-solicitation clauses. Hosts Sean Yocum and Michael Carrero call out the corporate rulebook, arguing that these contracts are not about protecting proprietary secrets—they're instruments of aversive control used to weaponize the labor market, restrict client choice , and hold p...
Episode 15: Out of the Clinic and into the Chaos: Community-Based ABA 06.10.2025 1:07:00
Are we setting our clients up for failure? In this episode of Rad N Bad, Sean and Mike welcome the fearless Shanti Bradley, a BCBA who is challenging the biggest lie in ABA: that real therapy only happens in a sterile clinic environment. They dive into why the "tabletop simulator" approach is ineffective and unethical, teaching compliance over competence and ignoring the beautiful, messy...
Episode 14: Correlation, Not Causation: Debunking the Tylenol Autism Claim 26.09.2025 59:00
Ready to stop getting your science from bedtime stories? In this wake-up call of an episode, Sean Yocum and Mike Carrero dive headfirst into the recent, controversial claims linking Tylenol to autism. As BCBAs, they break down the fundamental flaws in this argument, starting with the first rule of behavior analysis fight club: correlation is not causation. They discuss how this narrative oversimpl...
Episode 14: Correlation, Not Causation: Debunking the Tylenol Autism Claim 26.09.2025 59:00
Ready to stop getting your science from bedtime stories? In this wake-up call of an episode, Sean Yocum and Mike Carrero dive headfirst into the recent, controversial claims linking Tylenol to autism. As BCBAs, they break down the fundamental flaws in this argument, starting with the first rule of behavior analysis fight club: correlation is not causation. They discuss how this narrative oversimpl...
Episode 13: The Elephant in the Room: RBT Burnout with Nick Klinkefus 22.09.2025 1:06:11
In this bold and edgy episode, your hosts Sean Yocum and Mike Carrero get into the most talked about but least solved problem in the field: RBT burnout. Joined by special guest Nick Klinkefus, a tech-savvy leader specializing in Organizational Behavior Management (OBM), they expose the hard truths behind the industry's staffing crisis. Are RBTs just billable machines? Is the high turnover rate...
Episode 13: The Elephant in the Room: RBT Burnout with Nick Klinkefus 22.09.2025 1:06:11
In this bold and edgy episode, your hosts Sean Yocum and Mike Carrero get into the most talked about but least solved problem in the field: RBT burnout. Joined by special guest Nick Klinkefus, a tech-savvy leader specializing in Organizational Behavior Management (OBM), they expose the hard truths behind the industry's staffing crisis. Are RBTs just billable machines? Is the high turnover rate...
Episode 12: The Behavioral Science of Going Effing Viral 12.09.2025 49:05
Welcome back, behavioral misfits! On this special episode, hosts Sean Yocum and Michael Carrero dive into a topic that bridges Sean's two worlds: music and behavior analysis. We’re breaking down the incredible, and unexpected, viral resurgence of Sean's old band, Lady Radiator, and their song, "Box Turtle." What looks like a happy accident is, in fact, a perfect storm of behavior...
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