Hunter Parnell
Public Defenseless
Anyone paying attention can tell you that our criminal legal system is perpetuating cruelty and harm, but the complexity of the legal world overwhelms most people simply trying to get through another day. Public Defenseless explores the rot in the justice system and what we can do about it. Join host, Hunter Parnell, as he interviews top defense attorneys and criminal justice stakeholders from across the country as they pull apart the convoluted web of our criminal justice system. Like so many of you, Hunter is not an attorney, simply tired of a news cycle and talking heads that offer no real...
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Hunter Parnell
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Jul 9, 2026
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Episodes
300 | How Mitigation is Helping Veterans Escape the Criminal Legal System w/Nancy Farrell and Dee Miller 14.11.2024 1:02:06
Today, Hunter is joined by Nancy Farrell and Dee Miller of the New York Vet Defense Program. Previously on the show, Hunter and other guests have described the power of veteran and other treatment courts. However, we have often lamented at the limited scope that this courts offer veterans who need help but just not drug or alcohol treatment. With this program, Nancy and Dee offer veterans the cult...
299 | How NAPD is Fostering a National Forum for Public Defense Innovations w/Jeff Sherr 13.11.2024 37:51
Today, Hunter is joined once again by NAPD's Jeff Sherr. This time, they sat down to discuss NAPD's new Change Maker Forum, what Hunter learned from attending, and how NAPD hopes to use it to spark new, impactful changes in Public Defense. Guests: Jeff Sherr, Director of Training, National Association of Public Defense Resources: NAPD Changemaker Forum 2025 https://publicdefenders.us/event/the...
298 |What the History of ULCA's Police Department Tells Us About the Issues with Campus Police w/Andrew Guerrero 12.11.2024 46:16
Today, Hunter is joined by Ph. D. candidate and law student Andrew Gurrero to discuss his research about the evolution of the UCLA police department. In this episode, Hunter and Andrew explore the origins of the department and the forces that drove the department away from its original mandate. Guests: Andrew Gurrero, Ph. D Candidate, Harvard Resources: Read Sources Discussed in the Episode He...
297 | The Successes and Failings of Plea Bargaining in Europe w/Rebecca Shaeffer 07.11.2024 1:09:53
Today, Hunter is joined once again by Rebecca Schaffer to discuss plea bargaining in Europe. As we did on Tuesday, this episode aims to help people understand the intractable problems with plea deals and what countries are doing to try and ameliorate those problems Guests: Rebecca Schaffer, Former Legal Director, Fair Trials Resources: Follow Rebecca on Twitter https://x.com/rebeccashaeffe?lan...
296 | How South Dakota is Fixing its Public Defense Crisis w/Aditi Goel 06.11.2024 1:05:38
Today, Hunter is joined once again by Aditi Goel of the Sixth Amendment Center. This time, we discuss their recent report about Public Defense in South Dakota. Like many county based, county funded Public Defense systems, South Dakota is plagued with underfunding, under staffing, lack of independence, and cost saving practices that make Public Defense ineffective. Yet, this episode has a ray of ho...
295 | What Can be Learned About Plea Bargaining from Japan's Failed Plea Experiment w/Lucian Dervan 05.11.2024 1:06:29
Today, Hunter is joined once again by Lucian Dervan to discuss plea bargaining. This time, he joins to discuss what we can learn about plea bargaining from Japan's failed attempt to implement plea bargaining system. Guests: Lucian Dervan, Professor of Law and Director of Criminal Justice Studies, Belmont College of Law, Founding Director of the Plea Bargaining Institute Resources: Link to Lucian...
294 | A Judicial Candidate Speaks Out Against Retaliation by a High Ranking Member of Oregon Public Defense w/Rachel Philips 31.10.2024 1:06:42
Today, Hunter is joined by Oregon Criminal Defense and Victim's Rights lawyer Rachel Philips. Over the past three years, Rachel has been outspoken about retaliation that women attorneys faced from members of the Oregon Public Defense Commission. She joins the show to discuss her efforts to bring that retaliation to light and to discuss her candidacy for a seat on the bench in Multnomah County. G...
293 | Does Bail Reform Impact Crime Rates? w/Ames Grawert 30.10.2024 56:02
Today, Hunter is joined by Ames Grawert of the Brennan Center to discuss a recent Brennan Center report of Bail Reform's impact (or lack thereof) on crime rates. Guests: Ames Grawert, Senior Counsel, Brennan Center for Justice Resources: Read the Report https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/bail-reform-and-public-safety Read more of Ames' Work https://www.brennancenter.org/...
292 | How Participatory Defense Gets the Community Involved in the Courtroom w/Raj Jayadev 29.10.2024 1:08:43
Today, Hunter is joined by Raj Jayadev of Silicon Valley De-Bug to discuss participatory defense. In the early 2000's, Raj and SVDB sought to give communities a voice in places they traditionally were excluded from or ignored. Eventually, the community made clear that they needed and wanted a way to be more involved with the criminal legal system. From there, SVDB came up with participatory defens...
291 | How the Innocence Project of New Orleans is Fighting to Keep the Innocent out of Prison w/Jee Park 24.10.2024 1:05:05
Today, Hunter is joined by Jee Park, the Executive Director of the Innocence Project of New Orleans to discuss wrongful convictions and post-conviction work in Louisiana. After our past two episodes, it should be clear that there are serious issues with adult and youth representation in Louisiana. Unfortunately, this keeps groups like IPNO extremely busy, and that ensures that inevitably they will...
290 | How Louisiana's Governor is Reviving the "Super Predator" Myth to Police, Prosecute and Jail Young People w/Hannah Van De Car 23.10.2024 1:00:49
Today, Hunter is joined by Hannah Van De Car to discuss the recent "tough on crime" policies that Louisiana Jeff Landry is pursuing in the Youth Justice space. From a repeal of raise the age to increased future punishment for children in possession of firearms, Governor Landry is taking an already punitive state and making it into one of the most pro carceral places on Earth. Guests: Hannah Van...
289 | The Horrible Direction Louisiana Public Defense is Headed Under its New Leadership w/Derwyn Bunton 22.10.2024 1:10:31
Today, Hunter is joined once again by Derwyn Bunton. The last time Derwyn was on the show, he was the chief Public Defender in the Orleans Parish of Louisiana, but he is now the Chief Legal Officer at the Southern Poverty Law Center. Today, Derwyn joined the show to discuss what has been happening with Louisiana's Public Defender system. Specifically, Derwyn is here to discuss the consolidation of...
288 | The Problems and Potential for Utah's Patchwork Youth Defense System w/Pam Vickrey 17.10.2024 59:11
Today, Hunter is joined by Pam Vickrey, Executive Director of the Utah Juvenile Defender Attorneys to discuss a recent report, conducted in partnership with the Gault Center, about the problems and promises of Youth Defense in Utah. Guests: Pam Vickrey, Executive Director, Utah Juvenile Defender Attorneys Resources: Read the Report Here https://www.defendyouthrights.org/wp-content/uploads/Utah...
287 | How California Law Enforcement Agencies are Keeping Police Misconduct Hidden w/Katey Rusch 16.10.2024 58:26
Today, Hunter is joined by journalist Katey Rusch to discuss her recent bombshell reporting on California law enforcement agencies use of "clean record" agreements to keep police misconduct from defense lawyers, the public, and even other law enforcement agencies. Guests: Katey Rusch, Reporter, California Resources: Contact Katey https://journalism.berkeley.edu/person/katey-rusch/ katey.rusch@...
286 | The Courts Giving Young People the Specialized Resources they Need to Succeed w/Paul Bowen and Jacqueline van Wormer 15.10.2024 1:02:01
Today, Hunter is joined by Paul Bowen and Jacqueline van Wormer Ph. D. to discuss the juvenile treatment courts that they have helped set up around the country. As has been the case on previous episodes about youth defense, today we discuss both the politics and science behind ensuring that courts are considering the unique needs of the youth being processed through them. Guests: Paul Bowen, Pro...
285 | How the Civil Legal System Makes it Difficult to Hold Larry Nassar, the Catholic Church, and Other Powerful Organizations Accountable w/Parker Stinar 10.10.2024 1:05:33
Today, Hunter is joined by civil litigator Park Stinar to discuss his work in suing people and organizations who have sexually violated his clients. Through his career, Parker has pursued justice against Larry Nassar and Michigan State, the Catholic Church, Juvenile Detention Facilities, and the University of Michigan because of their role in the sexual assault of his clients. While not a normal e...
284 | How Alabama's Fines and Fees Fail Criminal Defendants, Victims, and the Entire State w/Leah Nelson and Judge Stephen Wallace 09.10.2024 1:13:16
Today, Hunter is joined once again by Leah Nelson, and this time, she is joined by Judge Stepehen Wallace. On today's episode, Leah and Judge Wallace are her to unveil their years long research into the fines and fees that the Jefferson County, Alabama Courts are extracting from criminal defendants. As will surprise no one who listens to the show, the fines and fees program fails the accused, fail...
283 | The Restorative Justice Program Trying to Heal the Wounds of a Wrongful Conviction w/Jennifer Thompson and Jamie Lau 08.10.2024 1:10:50
Today, Hunter is joined by two people who's work attempts to bring people together to heal after a wrongful conviction. Jennifer Thompson, Founder of Healing Justice, and Professor Jamie Lau from Duke University join the show to discuss how they help the wrongfully convicted, the victims in a wrongful conviction, the families of both, and the communities they are from come together to talk and hop...
282 | How a Former Public Defender Hopes to End Mass Incarceration as a Progressive Prosecutor w/Matthew S 03.10.2024 1:05:40
Today, Hunter is joined by former Public Defender and current Senior Advisor to District Attorney Larry Krasner, Matthew Stiegler. After Tuesday's episode, we saw the promise and limitations of Public Defenders holding police accountable, and today, we examine those same promises and limitations for criminal legal reforms that progressive prosecution offers. Guests: Matthew Stiegler, Senior Advi...
281 | How Philly Public Defenders Uncovered Systemic Abuses in the Philly Police Department w/Paula Sen and Michael Mellon 01.10.2024 1:11:53
Today, Hunter is joined by two Philly Public Defenders, Michael Mellon and Paula Sen, to discuss how their work with the Philly Public Defender Police Accountability Unit helped to uncover a systemic pattern and practice of lies and illegal use of surveillance cameras. Guests: Paula Sen, Assistant Public Defender, Defender Association of Philadelphia Michael Mellon, Assistant Public Defender, De...
280 | Why did the Stanislaus County Public Defender Say they Were Ready to Refuse Taking New Cases w/Jennifer Jennison 26.09.2024 1:09:01
Today, Hunter is joined by Stanislaus County Chief Public Defender, Jennifer Jennison. In the past year, Jennifer has been confronted with the most challenging question a Chief can face: Should I refuse to take on new cases because the current workload that my attorneys have is unethically high? Today's episode attempts to understand that historical and current conditions that lead Jennifer to mak...
279 | The Problems with Public Defense in Nueces County Texas w/Jessica Brand and Adrienne Johnson 24.09.2024 59:38
Today, Hunter is joined once again by Jessica Brand and Adrienne Johnson of the Wren Collective. This time, Jessica and Adrienne join to discuss their recent report about the failings of Public Defense in Nueces County, Texas. Guests: Jessica Brand, Founder, Wren Collective Adrienne Johnson, Senior Counsel, Wren Collective Resources: Wren Collective Website https://www.wrencollective.org/ Wr...
278 | The Systemic Corruption and Coverups at the Denver Sheriff Department w/Brittany Iriart and Andy McNulty 19.09.2024 1:05:39
Today, Hunter is joined by former whistleblower Brittany Iriart and Civil Rights Attorney Andy McNulty to discuss a scandalous coverup with the Denver Sheriffs Department. When she moved to a civilian oversight position with the Denver Sheriff, Brittany hoped to bring some much needed accountability to a department with a history of burying misconduct. Unfortunately, the incremental changes around...
277 | Venezuelan Gangs Haven't Taken Over Aurora, But What is Happening? w/Chase Woodruff 18.09.2024 1:19:59
Today, Hunter is joined by Colorado Newsline Journalist Chase Woodruff. Over the past several weeks, Aurora, Colorado has been thrust into the national spotlight thanks to right wing media and politicians. Despite their many sensationalist claims, Aurora and the state at large have not in fact been taken over by Venezuelan gangs. Today's episode is meant to help compile reporting and walk through...
276 | The Highest Law in the Land: How the Unchecked Power of Sheriffs Threatens Democracy w/Jessica Pishko 17.09.2024 1:13:27
Today, Hunter is joined by Jessica Pishko to discuss her new book The Highest Law in the Land: How the Unchecked Power of Sheriffs Threatens Democracy . So far on the show, Hunter has spent a lot of time discussing the corruption and abuses of police and prosecutors, but the show has not spent much time discussing the issues of sheriffs. Thanks to years of incredible investigative journalism, Jess...
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