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PSM: Professional Services Marketing

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Insights into the world of professional services marketing, presented by Frank Lippert and Deirdre Gilmore. The professional services industry is an increasingly competitive one – your firm needs to stand out from the pack, so a marketing strategy can no longer be an afterthought.

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May 29, 2026

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Episodes

Episode 229 - Is This the Right Job for Me - Conducting Interviews from the Driver's Seat with Keelin Cox 23.09.2022

Keelin Cox is a creative thinker and problem solver with a focus on thoughtful interactions throughout the A/E/C industry. She is invested in marketing efforts that produce smart strategies and help her teams serve their communities. She is the owner of Adiuvo Marketing and the host of the AEC Marketeer podcast that explores A/E/C marketing and beyond. This episode continues an episode on Keelin's...

Episode 228 - Career Path Pt 4: Navigating Life with GPS - Grace, Pace, and Space with Kathryn Ness 09.09.2022

A temp agency assignment at an engineering firm began Kathryn Ness ' 20+ year career in marketing and business development in AEC. Her intentional relocation to St. Croix brought personal insights and challenges, and two back-to-back Cat 5 hurricanes that changed her perspectives forever. Now a consultant and certified professional coach at GO Strategies , Kathryn made the leap from solving proble...

Episode 227 - Marketing Department as an In-house Consultant with Perryn Olson 26.08.2022

Perryn Olson is a disrupter, he does things differently. In his current role, he's serving multiple companies under one-parent umbrella. He's finding a way to manage his marketing department as a consultant to these companies. It's a very different way to approach day-to-day and long-term marketing needs. If your firm has multiple brands or divisions, and many do lately, Perryn has an interesting...

Episode 226 - Right-sizing AEC firms with Karen Natzel 12.08.2022

Karen Natzel with K Communications is a "business therapist." She works with CEOs and other leaders to help them communicate and lead more effectively. In this episode, Frank and Karen dive into the concept of "right-sizing" AEC companies. A lot of firms grow because they think that the opposite of growth is decline. That's not true. In this age of high M&A activity, there is something to be said...

Episode 225 - Career Path Pt 3: Here There Be Dragons with Kate Robinette 29.07.2022

Like most of us, Kate Robinette came to AEC through a circuitous route. But hers was an intentional path, made by consciously placing stones to learn her strengths, educate herself, fill holes, and gain advocates. Deirdre and Kate talk about being different, bringing strengths to a conscious level, and dragons in this humorous and deep dive conversation. Kate's top 5 tips to grow your career: Know...

Episode 224 - The Sunday Market with Gary Williams 15.07.2022

Gary Williams with Questa Consulting Ltd helps technically minded people become more confident, relaxed, and successful in all things to do with client management and business development as part of his consulting business in the UK. His podcast, Working Winning Ways, provides depth and humor as he explores this strange marketing/selling/BD thing we do. Frank joined Gary's podcast, Work Winning Wa...

Episode 223 - Navigating a Conference as the Newbie with Kelly Valentin 01.07.2022

Kelly Valentin is the Marketing Director at Empower Electric, LLC in Nashville, TN, and a newcomer to the AEC industry and SMPS. She attended her first conference for SMPS at the Southeast Regional Conference (SERC) in Orlando in March. New to the industry and SMPS, she found herself in a sea of people who knew each other well and had long histories together, as well as juggling new content and le...

Episode 222 - Powerful Volunteer Leadership - SERC 2022 with Rachael Frohardt and Stephanie Jude 17.06.2022

Rachael Frohardt with PCL Construction and Stephanie Jude   with Clark Nexsen give us the scoop behind leading a major SMPS regional conference - the 2022 Southeast Regional Conference (SERC) in Orlando, FL. They talk about the value of membership in a professional organization, the excitement of high-engagement, and handling the unexpected. Listen in as they talk about leadership, including deleg...

Episode 221 - The Risk Not Taken with Sandy Geroux 03.06.2022

Closing keynote at the SMPS Southeast Regional Conference , Sandy Geroux talks about embracing risk, exploring personal risk tolerance, preparing for risk factors, and principles to follow to achieve your goals and gain buy-in. Reference files are located here . For more content from Sandy, visit her website www.thewowplace.com or check out Sandy's book "Turn Your Workplace Into a WOWplace!" avail...

Episode 220 - Bucking the Status Quo 20.05.2022

Straight from the SMPS Southeast Regional Conference , keynote Tim Asimos with Circle S Studio talks about bucking the status quo - when, why, and how. Frank and Deirdre bookend the conversation with their own insights on disruption as a tool in the marketing, BD, and leadership toolbox. Get ready for an evolution, not a revolution.

Episode 219 - Creativity Machine 06.05.2022

The SMPS Southeast Regional Conference of 2022 hit all the right spots, including inspirational and creative keynote speakers. Join our four-part deep dive with the keynotes and the conference leadership on our special, SMPS SERC 2022 podcast series. First up is Steve Tatham , a 30-year Imagineer and theme park designer for Universal Creative . We talk about inspiring creativity, playing off each...

Episode 218 - Career Path Part 2: Marketing 22.04.2022

It's a common story in AEC: you were headed down one career path and something happened and you ended up working for an architecture, engineering, or construction firm in marketing or business development. Some people thrive, and some struggle to build a career here. Frank and Deirdre get candid about forging a career in BD and Marketing. Listen to Deirdre's guidance on a marketing career path in...

Episode 217 - Career Path Part 1: Business Development 08.04.2022

It's a common story in AEC: you were headed down one career path and something happened and you ended up working for an architecture, engineering, or construction firm in marketing or business development. Some people thrive, and some struggle to build a career here. Frank and Deirdre get candid about forging a career in business development and marketing. Listen to Frank's guidance on a business...

Episode 216 - Little By Little, A Little Becomes A Lot 25.03.2022

The feeling of powerlessness can be overwhelming for professional services marketers. In this podcast, Frank interviews Paula Johnston , CPSM – the remarkable marketer known as empowered.paula on Instagram. Paula's incredibly successful personal journey towards empowerment follows the Tanzanian proverb "little by little, a little becomes a lot." She talks about physical and mental fitness, about l...

Episode 215 - The Crazy Things Business Developers Say 11.03.2022

We've all heard or experienced some crazy things in the name of business development. Frank and Deirdre talk (and laugh) with Kenda Salisbury, FSMPS, CPSM , Regional Director of Business Development at Degenkolb Engineering about what they've seen. This is a fun episode with some serious lessons-learned advice.

Episode 214 - Retaining Great Marketers 25.02.2022

We're in the middle of a huge talent war, struggling to find and retain the skilled professionals we need in all positions of our firms. Ali Bedwell, VP of Brand Strategy at Skyline Enterprises shares her success in building a cohesive team, developing diverse growth opportunities, and charting a clear path for herself and the department within the company. Resource Link: https://generalassemb.ly

213 - Falling in Love with a Great Job 11.02.2022

It's February - let's talk about falling in love - with a great job. In this episode, Frank and Deirdre talk about how interviewing for the right job is a lot like dating and finding the best fit. It's packed full of inspirational ideas to really figure out if a job is a fit for you. In this crazy time of job changing, this podcast guides listeners on both sides of the romance to find harmony.

212 - Federal Infrastructure Package 28.01.2022

Late in 2021, the US Congress passed, and President Biden signed the largest infrastructure spending bill in decades. It represents the biggest volume of federal investment since professional services marketing became a thing. The impacts of the infrastructure bill will be profound. In Episode 212, Frank talks to two people who have been tracking it and gearing up. Anthony Jeffers with Hensel Phel...

211 - Effectively Managing Stressful Situations 14.01.2022

Stressful situations abound in professional services marketing. Frank Lippert talks to professional coach and instructor Laurie Cozart from Brain Squared Solutions about how to manage situations specific to our everyday lives. This is a high-impact, high-value show with good tools and insights.

210 - Building Your Bravery Muscles 31.12.2021

Deirdre Gilmore visits with Tiffany Gorrell of GLHN Architects and Engineers about her journey in fulfilling a big, hairy, audacious goal (BHAG).

209 - Goal Setting - It's not just an annual PSM Show tradition! 17.12.2021

Keeping with David and Josh's concept of ending the year on Goal Setting, Frank Lippert and Deirdre Gilmore share their thoughts about business and personal goal setting. They share advice on when and how to go about it and provide takeaways for staying on track (or not) with the goals you set.

208 - The Beginning of Us, Part 2 03.12.2021

In Part 2 of our introduction to the hosts, Deirdre Gilmore, FSMPS, CPSM shares the lessons, decisions, twists, and unplanned adventures that transformed her career and life.

207 - The Beginning of Us, Part 1 19.11.2021

On the first full episode with Deirdre Gilmore and Frank Lippert, the hosts share more about themselves. Part 1 is a deep dive with Frank Lippert, FSMPS, CPSM.

206 - The Future of PSM.show 05.11.2021

Did you know we've been hosting PSM.show for 4 years? To celebrate, we've got a big announcement! On today's episode, we'll reminisce a bit about the past, but mostly we'll make some bold predictions for the future of PSM.show. Insights into the world of professional services marketing, presented by Josh Miles and David Lecours. The professional services industry is an increasingly competitive one...

205 - Bryon McCartney - Content For Positioning as the Go-To Expert 15.10.2021

What are some content ideas that will help position firms as the go-to expert? David and Bryon McCartney of Archmark talk about how firms might handle content creation themselves or if they need to hire outside help.   Insights into the world of professional services marketing, presented by Josh Miles and David Lecours. The professional services industry is an increasingly competitive one – your f...

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