PrOTect It All

Welcome back to Protect It All! In this episode, host Aaron Crow sits down with longtime friend and OT cybersecurity veteran Brian Proctor for a deep dive into the current state—and future—of the OT cyber landscape. Together, they trade stories from the front lines, reflecting on how their early experiences as asset owners shaped their passion for innovation and helping critical infrastructure run...

In this episode, host Aaron Crow sits down with OT security expert Justin Searle, Director of ICS Security at InGuardians, for a deep dive into the ever-evolving world of OT and IT cybersecurity.  With over 25 years of experience, ranging from hands-on engineering and water treatment facilities to red-team penetration testing on critical infrastructures such as airports and power plants, Justin br...

In this episode of Protect It All, host Aaron Crow welcomes Pedro Umbelino, Principal Research Scientist at BitSight, for an insightful and lively conversation recorded shortly after they met at RSA. Pedro shares stories of his early days in computing, from scavenging parts as a kid to teaching himself programming on a ZX Spectrum. The discussion quickly dives into critical cybersecurity issues ac...

In this episode, host Aaron Crow sits down with Dean Parsons, one of the most recognized names in the OT and industrial control systems (ICS) security world, for a candid and insightful conversation.   Join Aaron and Dean as they explore what it truly takes to bridge the worlds of IT and OT. Drawing from decades of industry experience, their discussion covers everything from building trust across...

In this episode, host Aaron Crow dives deep into the intersection of IT and OT cybersecurity with special guest Gavin Dilworth—a plant operator turned automation engineer and cybersecurity expert. Listen in as Gavin shares his candid and often humorous journey from factory floors to global consulting, including how a workplace near-miss sparked his “lightbulb moment” about the similarities between...

In this episode, host Aaron Crow welcomes lifelong cybersecurity professional Paul Marco to the podcast. Fresh off of a fun, bourbon-fueled appearance on Paul and Evan’s podcast, Cyber After Hours, Aaron and Paul sit down for a candid conversation that covers everything from the pitfalls of shiny new cyber tools, to the real-world challenges of defending both networks and people.   Tune in as they...

In this episode, host Aaron Crow is joined by his longtime friend and fellow OT (Operational Technology) aficionado, Oren Niskin. Oren dives into his unconventional journey from Navy electrician to offshore rig automation, through to OT cybersecurity consulting—sharing the highs, the lessons learned, and the unique perspective gained from crawling through the “belly of the ship” rather than a coll...

In this episode, host Aaron Crow sits down with cybersecurity professional Blake Hoge for an unscripted deep dive into the world of IT, OT, and everything in between. In this engaging conversation, Aaron and Blake share their personal journeys through the cybersecurity landscape—from consulting roots and data center audits, to navigating third-party risk, compliance programs, and even some unforge...

In this episode,  host Aaron Crow dives deep into the buzzing world of AI in cybersecurity, joined by special guest Amy Tom, Community Manager at D3 Security. With everyone chatting about AI these days, Aaron and Amy cut through the noise to explore how artificial intelligence is shaking up Security Operations Centers (SOCs)—from automating manual processes to transforming traditional analyst role...

In this episode of Protect It All , host Aaron Crow sits down with Steve Kiss, founder and CEO of IPMeter, for an eye-opening discussion on the future of OT (Operational Technology) and IT cybersecurity. With over 25 years of hands-on experience, Steve shares his journey from network engineering to designing practical cybersecurity tools for real-world OT environments. They dive into the unique ch...

Episode 53 gets into the intricate world of IT and OT cybersecurity with host Aaron Crow and guest Joshua Kuntz, the Chief Information Security Officer for a state agency in Texas. With a comprehensive background spanning two decades and involvement with seven state agencies, Joshua shares his journey from the Marine Corps to leading security programs in the public sector.    The episode covers a...

In this episode, host Aaron Crow celebrates the first anniversary of this insightful podcast. Over the past year, Aaron has delved deep into the world of cybersecurity, bringing listeners compelling stories and expert insights from across the globe, including guests from the United States, Iraq, South Africa, and New Zealand. In this milestone episode, Aaron reflects on the journey so far, recount...

In this episode, host Aaron Crow dives deep into the world of OT cybersecurity alongside guest Oakley Cox, the director of product for Darktrace OT. They explore the unique journey of how Oakley transitioned from a chemistry background to cybersecurity, highlighting the role of AI and machine learning in evolving OT environments.  With a focus on strategies for tackling cybersecurity challenges in...

In this episode, host Aaron Crow is joined by Peter Jackson, a seasoned expert from New Zealand with a robust background in industrial automation and cybersecurity. Together, they unravel the intricacies of balancing security with reliable operations and explore the evolving landscape of OT cybersecurity in critical infrastructure. Listen in as they discuss everything from the importance of safe o...

In this episode, Aaron is joined by Jori VanAntwerp live from the s4 conference. Together, they unpack the intricacies of networking at industry events, the challenges and opportunities in OT cybersecurity, and the evolving technologies and strategies that are reshaping the field.  From the significance of understanding asset owner needs to the promising future of AI and blockchain in cybersecurit...

In this episode, host Aaron Crow tackles the ongoing debate of IT versus OT attacks, using the example of the Colonial Pipeline incident and others to illustrate his point. Aaron argues that focusing on whether an attack is an IT or OT issue misses the bigger picture - the real impact on operations.  Through engaging stories and industry insights, Aaron emphasizes that asset owners ultimately care...

In this episode, host Aaron Crow is joined by Sulaiman Alhasawi, a cybersecurity expert based in Kuwait. Sulaiman shares his journey into OT security, beginning with his PhD research in Liverpool and leading to his creation of ICSrank.com, a search engine for OT devices.    The discussion gets into individuals' unique cybersecurity paths, emphasizing the importance of learning from diverse experie...

In this episode of Protect It All, host Aaron Crow gets into pressing cybersecurity issues currently making headlines. Listeners are invited to explore the complex challenges governments face to ensure accountability without compromising security.  Aaron examines the implications of global policies that could force tech companies to undermine encryption. Steering clear of political discourse, he f...

In this episode, host Aaron Crowe speaks to Dan Ricci, founder of the ICS Advisory Project, to delve into OT cybersecurity. Dan brings a wealth of experience from his time in the Navy, transitioning through various cybersecurity roles, and finally taking the leap to establish a platform that addresses the complex needs of critical infrastructure sectors.  In this conversation, they explore the gen...

In this episode, host Aaron Crow welcomes Chris Robertson, CISO at Apogee Defense, to discuss the evolving landscape of cybersecurity, focusing on the distinction and strategy behind Virtual CISO (vCSO) roles.  Chris shares insights from his dual roles at Apogee Defense and as a virtual chief security officer for various companies. The conversation dives into the intricacies and responsibilities o...

In this episode, host Aaron Crow engages in a riveting conversation with Anusha Iyer, the CEO and founder of Corsha , a Washington, D.C.-based cybersecurity company. With over 25 years of experience in the cybersecurity space and a newfound interest in operational technology (OT), Anusha shares insights into her company's innovative approach to identity and access management for machines. The disc...

In this episode, host Aaron is joined by cybersecurity expert Adam Robbie, the head of OT threat research at Palo Alto Networks. The discussion begins with Aaron sharing his extensive experience deploying Palo Alto firewalls in operational technology (OT) environments, highlighting the key troubleshooting and application-aware capabilities these firewalls offer. Adam delves into his role at Palo A...

In this episode, host Aaron Crow converses with Lesley Carhart, Technical Director at Dragos, who brings over 15 years of experience in incident response and forensics within critical infrastructure sectors. The episode dives deep into the standard practices in industrial settings, such as operators shutting down power plants for safety and the lack of forensic investigation into equipment failure...

In this episode, hosts Aaron Crow and Neal Conlon are joined by cybersecurity executive Ken Foster to discuss why smaller, focused events like the upcoming gathering at Staccaro Ranch outshine large conferences in the cybersecurity industry. They highlight the importance of genuine relationship-building, integrity in vendor interactions, and meaningful conversations that smaller events facilitate....

Happy New Year 2025. In this episode, host Aaron Crow  guides you through the evolving cybersecurity landscape impacting everything from power utilities and transportation to manufacturing and healthcare. Aaron explores the importance of integrating people, processes, and technology to build resilient systems. He also outlines the major cybersecurity events and conferences you won't want to miss t...