Access to Justice Lab at Harvard Law School
Proof Over Precedent
The Access to Justice Lab at Harvard Law School discusses the work of bringing credible evidence to lawyers, judges, and decision makers, to transform the U.S. justice system into an evidence-based field. We bring you weekly one-on-one interviews with experts in the area of access to justice -- researchers, lawyers, professors, law students, data analysts, research participants, and anyone who has an interesting role in this growing area.
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Jul 6, 2026
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Episode 36: Record Clearing Insights: How Data Can Impact Policy 17.02.2026 39:36
This episode of Proof Over Precedent looks at predictive modeling research that could be used alongside policy research to answer the question, "What can we do to increase the number of criminal records cleared?" Researchers examined existing data on automatic record sealing in Pennsylvania and petition-based expungements in Kansas and adjusted criteria that could contribute to more effective reco...
Episode 35: Legal Hurdles in Expungement: A Kansas Case Study 10.02.2026 57:25
In this episode of Proof Over Precedent, the criminal record clearing process gets a close-up examination. Researchers and a former field partner at Kansas Legal Services discuss an expungement study in Kansas that reveals the numerous, and sometimes prohibitive and illogical, steps it takes for an individual to clear a record – a task made exponentially more difficult and less likely to succeed w...
Episode 34: Studying the Expungement Paradox 03.02.2026 1:05:03
Expungement appears to have all the signs of promising policy including better job and housing outcomes for individuals whose criminal records have been cleared; low recidivism rates; and subsequently better societal outcomes. Where it falls short, researchers in a Michigan study found, is with accessibility and uptake. This episode of "Proof Over Precedent" looks at the findings and dives into th...
Episode 33: Are Federal Regulations Protecting Prisoners or Paralyzing Research? 27.01.2026 42:28
This episode of "Proof Over Precedent" brings together IRB Director Shannon Sewards and A2J Lab Faculty Director and podcast host Jim Greiner to talk about the complexity of ethical research involving incarcerated individuals and the balance between maintaining those ethical standards and advancing social and behavioral research. The discussion also delves into the differences between protections...
Episode 32: Arbitration vs. Litigation -- Who Benefits? 19.01.2026 15:45
When it comes to consumer protection, signing off on the fine print may equate to signing off certain legal rights and agreeing not to sue a company in court but rather to use arbitration. Does the process actually matter? Several studies find variances in consumer financial relief and win rates, along with potential incentives in mandatory arbitration that could discredit the integrity of the pro...
Episode 31: Life Without Parole—a Death Sentence in Disguise 12.01.2026 18:07
In this "Student Voices" episode, HLS J.D. candidate Kristen Arnold looks at the procedural shortcomings of life sentences without the possibility of parole, particularly in comparison to capital punishment cases. She dives into the injustices of the LWOP procedure, the no-hope consequences for inmates and the system, and opportunity for a randomized control trial in the field to improve fairness.
Episode 30: Do Judges Actually Read Search Warrants? 06.01.2026 1:02:53
Despite search warrants being a topic of significant interest in court cases and legal scholarship, the process of obtaining warrants offers comparatively little information. But when researchers found a surprising public data point in this field, their analysis led to sobering findings regarding the time judges spend reviewing warrants and the high approval rates of such warrants. In this episode...
Episode 28: Pretrial Detention Efficacy and Alternatives 22.12.2025 25:27
This Student Voices episode focuses on the data and studies pointing to the shortcomings of pretrial detention – the significant costs, lack of impact on reducing crime, and shortage of failure-to-appear connections. HLS JD candidate Leann Poarch instead suggests a low-cost, relatively low-tech alternative that may be more effective.
Episode 27: The Hidden Costs of Pretrial Detention 16.12.2025 25:44
In this Student Voices episode, HLS J.D. candidate Leann Poarch discusses the significant costs of detaining individuals who await trial, such as legal fees, loss of employment, and long-term economic and psychological effects. Given that detaining individuals not yet convicted can cost local governments more than $13 billion, is it time to look into reforming the pretrial system?
Episode 26: When is Informed Consent Unnecessary? 09.12.2025 1:03:17
Image by Courtney Chrystal, J.D. candidate, Harvard Law School In this episode of Proof Over Precedent, the fourth in a series on Ethics in the Law, host Jim Greiner talks again with IRB expert Shannon Sewards to discuss the complexities and criteria involved in obtaining waivers of informed consent within the realm of social science and legal research, comparing it to the regulations governing me...
Episode 25: Legal Labyrinths Reveal Divorce Filing Woes 02.12.2025 58:28
Image by Felicia Quan, J.D. candidate, Harvard Law School Why is it so hard logistically to file for divorce when legally some cases are quite simple and uncomplicated? This second divorce study episode of Proof Over Precedent dives into the data behind the hassle factors and shares the surprising results of measuring the pro se accessibility of a court system. Maybe the answer isn’t more lawyers....
Episode 24: Till Death—or an Affordable Divorce—Do Us Part 02.12.2025 46:30
Image by Felicia Quan, J.D. candidate, Harvard Law School When it comes to obtaining a divorce, pro se litigants face significant obstacles, stemming primarily from financial challenges. Without a lawyer, many are ill equipped to undertake the complex paperwork, waiting periods, and logistical hurdles that come with filing for divorce. This first of two divorce study episodes of Proof Over Precede...
Episode 23: Innovative Approaches to Mental Health Hearings 18.11.2025 29:44
Image by Courtney Chrystal, J.D. candidate, Harvard Law School Rogers hearings allow Massachusetts judges to approve treatment plans for involuntarily committed individuals, but the process is criticized for its inefficiency and 99% approval rate. What if procedural reforms could improve outcomes? Replacing district court judges with administrative law judges to oversee hearings and substituting p...
Episode 22: Exploring Involuntary Commitment and Legal Reforms 11.11.2025 22:25
In this "Student Voices" episode of Proof Over Precedent, HLS student Aarushi Solanki discusses involuntary commitment laws for psychiatric patients in Massachusetts, where the process of holding separate commitment and treatment hearings winds up denying patients access to timely treatment.
Episode 21: What is the Impact of Legal Counsel at First Hearings? 03.11.2025 1:06:43
Image by Felicia Quan, J.D. candidate, Harvard Law School Can the presence of legal counsel at a criminal justice defendant’s first court hearing transform their journey through the justice system? Two Texas counties examined this possibility in a now-completed A2J Lab study. Director Jim Greiner hosts fellow A2J Lab researcher Renee Danser and Texas A&M researchers George Nafault and Bethany...
Episode 20: Caught in the Web — Government Websites and Accessibility 27.10.2025 14:00
Image by Courtney Chrystal, J.D. candidate, Harvard Law School Access to justice via government websites should mean ease of digital access to information. But what if your simple search on filing for a restraining order returned lists of forms in legalese or 37 pages of links to weed through for the appropriate form? In this Student Voices episode of Proof Over Precedent, J.D. candidate Spencer T...
Episode 19: How to Grow from a Global Study Setback 20.10.2025 26:00
Image by Felicia Quan, J.D. candidate, Harvard Law School Early this year, the A2J Lab was expanding globally for the first time, bringing its mission to study access to justice to both Kenya and Tunisia — and just about half-way through its study — when a federal stop-work order abruptly shut down the project. In this episode of Proof Over Precedent, we have no study results to report about the p...
Episode 18: No Money Down Bankruptcy, Part II — Navigating Possible Solutions 13.10.2025 20:05
Image by Felicia Quan, J.D. candidate, Harvard Law School More bankruptcy cases were filed in 2024 than all other civil cases in federal court combined – a factor that should make access to the bankruptcy filing process a priority in the U.S., HLS student Joe Liberman argues in this Student Voices podcast. Part II of this series discusses potential reforms, including changing attorney fee structur...
Episode 17: The Inaccessibility of a Financial Fresh Start 06.10.2025 21:38
Image by Courtney Chrystal, J.D. candidate, Harvard Law School Is the financial reset system too difficult to navigate? In this “Student Voices” episode of Proof Over Precedent, HLS J.D. candidate Joe Liberman discusses the complexities and accessibility issues associated with “no-money-down” bankruptcy filings that often hurt the people who can least afford these particular filings. Closer scruti...
Episode 16: Can Community Diversion Program Help Repeat Offenders Rehabilitate? 29.09.2025 32:39
Image by Felicia Quan, J.D. candidate, Harvard Law School A recently launched A2J Lab study examines the effectiveness of an education and community resource-focused program at reducing recidivism among low-level offenders. The program has been in practice for seven years in Toledo, Ohio, but has not yet been studied thoroughly. In this episode of Proof Over Precedent, the A2J Lab’s Renee Danser d...
Episode 15: Pro Se Problems -- Defining and Deploying Legal Knowledge 22.09.2025 20:31
In this “Student Voices” episode of Proof Over Precedent, HLS J.D. candidate Rachel Barkin discusses the challenges faced by pro se litigants in complying with civil procedure rules. While interpretation of legal language may be an obstacle, she argues that "deployability" is the more significant hurdle for self-represented litigants.
Episode 14: Ethical Conundrums in Legal Research 15.09.2025 45:35
Image by Courtney Chrystal, J.D. candidate, Harvard Law School In this Proof Over Precedent episode, the third show in the ‘Demystifying IRBs’ series, host Jim Greiner meets with IRB expert Shannon Sewards to answer the tricky question: Who counts as a ‘human subject’? Medical fields can easily point to human subjects in their research; but in social sciences, the definition relies heavily on fede...
Episode 13: Criminal Gideon, Civil Gideon, And Gender 08.09.2025 15:40
Image by Courtney Chrystal, J.D. candidate, Harvard Law School This “Student Voices” episode of Proof Over Precedent discusses the critical need for providing legal representation in civil cases—particularly those in which an individual’s home, family, or safety is at risk. While the right to counsel already extends to criminal cases in both federal and state courts, it does not currently extend t...
Episode 13: Criminal Gideon, Civil Gideon, And Gender 08.09.2025 15:40
Image by Courtney Chrystal, J.D. candidate, Harvard Law School This “Student Voices” episode of Proof Over Precedent discusses the critical need for providing legal representation in civil cases—particularly those in which an individual’s home, family, or safety is at risk. While the right to counsel already extends to criminal cases in both federal and state courts, it does not currently extend t...
Episode 12: Can Texts Help Secure Housing and Avoid Evictions? 01.09.2025 46:31
Image by Felicia Quan, J.D. candidate, Harvard Law School In this episode of Proof Over Precedent, host Jim Greiner talks with the A2J Lab’s Renee Danser about the recently completed pilot study referred to as the “Eviction Diversion Study.” The study aimed to combat housing security by providing legal information and resources to at-risk populations in the Houston area via text messaging. Ultimat...
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