Zach Groshell
Progressively Incorrect
Welcome to Progressively Incorrect, a podcast about the teacher-centered and the student-centered, the traditional and the progressive, in education. Hosted by Dr. Zach Groshell on educationrickshaw.com
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Jul 5, 2026
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Episodes
S4E22: J.R. Wilson and Barry Garelick on Engagement and Conceptual Teaching in Math 24.02.2025 46:48
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect. Fans of my blogs might remember the interview series that J.R. Wilson and Barry Garelick provided around their book, Traditional Math. I'm excited to bring you the voices behind this common sense approach to math instruction. In our chat, we talk about a wide range of topics, including... 1. Breaking … Continue reading S4E22: J.R. Wilson and Barry Gar...
S4E21: Judith Hochman, Christine Teahan, & Toni-Ann Vroom on the Writing Revolution 16.02.2025 48:08
As we get closer to Spring, I am excited to be working with The Writing Revolution as part of my consultancy. The Writing Revolution, or TWR, is an explicit instruction approach to writing that was created by Dr. Judith Hochman. This method has been celebrated by proponents of cognitive science as a solution that adheres … Continue reading S4E21: Judith Hochman, Christine Teahan, & Toni-...
S4E20: Doug Carnine on Advocacy for Evidence 05.02.2025 39:38
A few years ago, I came upon a paper titled, "Why Educators Resist Effective Practices" with the provocative subheading, And What It Would Take to Make EducationMore Like Medicine. It was written by Douglas Carnine, who I would come to learn was not only one of the most important voices in advocacy for evidence-based education, … Continue reading S4E20: Doug Carnine on Advocacy for Evidence
S4E19: Thinking Out Loud… Is Rehearsal Necessary for Effective Coaching and PD? 20.01.2025 40:03
I am excited to bring you an episode of the Thinking Out Loud series with my friend, Gene Tavernetti, who is cross posting these episodes on his podcast, Better Teaching Only Stuff that Works. During the episode, we talk about "rehearsal tasks", which are simply practice opportunities that a coach or presenter can plan for teachers. … Continue reading S4E19: Thinking Out Loud… Is Rehearsal N...
S4E18: Blake Harvard on Attention and Memory Constraints 14.01.2025 47:03
In this episode, I chat with Blake Harvard, aka The Effortful Educator, about applying cognitive psychology to the classroom. Blake and I presented together as part of the cognitive science strand at EdFest USA this year, and we share similar perspectives on the importance of bridging the gap between research and practice. In this interview, … Continue reading S4E18: Blake Harvard on Attenti...
S4E17: Kris Boulton on Atomization, DI Principles, and Unstoppable Learning 10.01.2025 1:14:15
In this episode, I chat with Kris Boulton, a legend in the space of translating principles of Direct Instruction (DI) into actionable steps for all teachers. It is such a great episode, with some very powerful messaging around the crucial role of the teacher in conveying and breaking down information so that all students can … Continue reading S4E17: Kris Boulton on Atomization, DI Principle...
S4E16: Natalie Wexler on Knowledge, Cognitive Science, and Beyond Phonics 01.01.2025 43:51
In this episode, I catch up with Natalie Wexler to discuss her new book, Beyond the Science of Reading. Our wide-ranging conversation covers often underrepresented areas of the science of reading, including the importance of background knowledge for comprehension, cognitive load theory, and explicit writing instruction. Listen and subscribe to Progressively Incorrect on…SpotifyYouTubeApple Podcast...
S4E15: Brendan Lee and Zach Groshell on Effective Leadership 23.12.2024 48:41
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, a show sponsored by John Catt from Hodder Education and hosted by me, Dr. Zach Groshell. John Catt publishes some of the best books in education, including my book, Just Tell Them: The Power of Explanations and Explicit Teaching. https://www.amazon.com/Just-Tell-Them-Science-Explanation/dp/103600368X Listen and subscribe to Progressively Incorrect on…Spotif...
S4E14: Kim Lockhart on Supporting L2 Learners with the Science of Reading 16.12.2024 57:00
Today I am excited to bring you an interview with Kim Lockhart. Kim's work focuses on the science of reading and its application in second language programs. She has been a vocal advocate on social media for moving away from balanced literacy and adopting evidence-based approaches to teaching reading. When I first encountered Kim, it … Continue reading S4E14: Kim Lockhart on Supporting L2 Le...
S4E13: Catherine Thevenot on Counting on Your Fingers 08.12.2024 32:26
Should students be taught to count on their fingers? Today I am excited to bring you an interview with Catherine Thevenot. Catherine is a researcher at the Institute of Psychology at the University of Lausanne in Switzerland. Her work focuses on cognitive development, particularly in the area of numerical cognition and arithmetic skills in children. … Continue reading S4E13: Catherine Theven...
S4E12: Jan Hasbrouck on Reading Fluency and Direct Instruction 01.12.2024 57:13
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect. My name is Dr. Zach Groshell, and today I am excited to bring you an interview with Jan Hasbrouck, the keynote speaker at NIFDI’s 2025 National Direct Instruction Conference and Institutes. Dr. Hasbrouck is a renowned researcher and author with a distinguished career dedicated to improving literacy and educational outcomes. Dr. … Continue reading S4E1...
S4E11: Sally Bergquist on Explicit Writing Lessons for K-2 26.11.2024 42:46
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, I am your host, Dr. Zach Groshell. This episode is a conversation between me and Sally Bergquist. Sally is an extremely talented and experienced teacher, and she recently challenged me to teach my child to write with her Engelmann-inspired writing program. It was an enormous pleasure to be able to … Continue reading S4E11: Sally Bergquist on Explicit...
S4E10: Nathaniel Swain, Steven Capp, and Katie Roberts-Hull on Harnessing the Science of Learning 18.11.2024 54:23
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, a show sponsored by John Catt from Hodder Education and hosted by me, Dr. Zach Groshell. John Catt publishes some of the best books in education, including my book, Just Tell Them: The Power of Explanations and Explicit Teaching. It is now Amazon's newest BEST-SELLING book in education! Listen and … Continue reading S4E10: Nathaniel Swain, Steven Capp...
S4E9: Thinking Out Loud… What is it Like to be Coached? 08.11.2024 37:51
I am excited to bring you an episode of the Thinking Out Loud series with my friend, Gene Tavernetti, from his podcast, Better Teaching Only Stuff that Works. I am hosting a free instructional coaching webinar on November 25, 2024. Sign up here and join me and special guests to learn about Steplab's platform and approach … Continue reading S4E9: Thinking Out Loud… What is it Like...
S4E8: Christopher Such on Practical Approaches to Science of Reading Implementation 03.11.2024 1:05:05
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, a show sponsored by John Catt from Hodder Education and hosted by me, Dr. Zach Groshell. John Catt publishes some of the best books in education, including my book, Just Tell Them: The Power of Explanations and Explicit Teaching. https://www.amazon.com/Just-Tell-Them-Science-Explanation/dp/103600368X Listen and subscribe to Progressively Incorrect on…Spotif...
S4E7: Brendan Lee and Zach Groshell on Coaching, Culture and Change 27.10.2024 59:50
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, a show sponsored by John Catt from Hodder Education and hosted by me, Dr. Zach Groshell. John Catt publishes some of the best books in education, including my book, Just Tell Them: The Power of Explanations and Explicit Teaching. https://www.amazon.com/Just-Tell-Them-Science-Explanation/dp/103600368X Listen and subscribe to Progressively Incorrect on…Spotif...
S4E6: Robin Codding on Fluency and Strategies to Support Intervention Implementation 19.10.2024 58:02
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, a show sponsored by John Catt from Hodder Education and hosted by me, Dr. Zach Groshell. John Catt publishes some of the best books in education, including my book, Just Tell Them: The Power of Explanations and Explicit Teaching. https://www.amazon.com/Just-Tell-Them-Science-Explanation/dp/103600368X Listen and subscribe to this podcast on…SpotifyYouTubeApp...
S4E5: Steplab + Teach Like a Champion with Doug Lemov, Josh Goodrich, and Peps Mccrea 12.10.2024 55:49
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, a show sponsored by John Catt from Hodder Education and hosted by me, Dr. Zach Groshell. John Catt publishes some of the best books in education, including my book, Just Tell Them: The Power of Explanations and Explicit Teaching. https://www.amazon.com/Just-Tell-Them-Science-Explanation/dp/103600368X Listen and subscribe to this podcast on…SpotifyYouTubeApp...
S4E4: Tamara Bressi on Effective Coaching for Direct Instruction 26.09.2024 53:32
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, a show sponsored by John Catt from Hodder Education and hosted by me, Dr. Zach Groshell. John Catt publishes some of the best books in education, including my book, Just Tell Them: The Power of Explanations and Explicit Teaching. https://www.amazon.com/Just-Tell-Them-Science-Explanation/dp/103600368X Listen and subscribe to this podcast on…SpotifyYouTubeApp...
S4E3: Brendan Lee and Zach Groshell on the Nuances of Teaching Effectively 20.09.2024 1:22:03
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, a show sponsored by John Catt from Hodder Education and hosted by me, Dr. Zach Groshell. John Catt publishes some of the best books in education, including my book, Just Tell Them: The Power of Explanations and Explicit Teaching. https://www.amazon.com/Just-Tell-Them-Science-Explanation/dp/103600368X Listen and subscribe to this podcast on…SpotifyYouTubeApp...
S4E2: Rodrigo Lopez on Putting Principles into Practice in Chile 10.09.2024 1:00:45
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, a show sponsored by John Catt from Hodder Education and hosted by me, Dr. Zach Groshell. John Catt publishes some of the best books in education, including my book, Just Tell Them: The Power of Explanations and Explicit Teaching. https://www.amazon.com/Just-Tell-Them-Science-Explanation/dp/103600368X In this episode, I catch up with Rodrigo Lopez to …...
S4E1: Just Tell Them – The Power of Explanations and Explicit Teaching 05.09.2024 47:37
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, a show sponsored by John Catt from Hodder Education and hosted by me, Dr. Zach Groshell. Listen and subscribe to this podcast on…SpotifyYouTubeApple PodcastsWordPress In this episode, me and my friend Gene Tavernetti catch up after a busy summer to talk about strategies for effective modeling from the new book, … Continue reading S4E1: Just Tell Them...
S3E21: Paul Kirschner on “Let’s Talk Evidence” and the Latest Debates Over Inquiry Learning 26.06.2024 55:21
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect and to the season 3 Finale of this podcast. In this final episode before I take a break for the summer, we are going out with a bang by bringing back one of the most respected and influential cognitive psychologists in the world, Paul Kirschner. Before we go over to … Continue reading S3E21: Paul Kirschner on “Let’s Talk Evidence” and...
S3E20: Casey Sovo on Improving Reading Outcomes for Indigenous Students 23.06.2024 57:26
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, I am your host, Dr. Zach Groshell. This episode is the second of two DI podcast episodes that I am releasing this weekend ahead of the Progressively Incorrect Season 3 finale with Paul Kirschner. Progressively Incorrect is brought to you by John Catt Educational, which publishes some of the best books … Continue reading S3E20: Casey Sovo on Improving...
S3E19: Marcy Stein and Bernadette Kelly on Direct Instruction Mathematics 22.06.2024 56:21
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, I am your host, Dr. Zach Groshell. Today I am excited to be bringing you the first of two DI podcast episodes that I will be releasing this weekend ahead of the Progressively Incorrect Season 3 finale with Paul Kirschner. My guests are DI mathematics experts Marcy Stein and Bernadette … Continue reading S3E19: Marcy Stein and Bernadette Kelly on Direc...
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